Chez_Wimpy
Oct 7 2004, 06:35
I do a fair amount of audio encoding with Nero AAC for movie soundtracks, and I noticed that the apparent quality of encoded HE-AAC via the Streaming:Medium preset dropped substantially post 2.6.2.2
The audio now has a very audible "washy" sound, especially during periods of speech. I thought it was perhaps some issue with PS kicking in (or not being decoded properly), but a comparison with old enocodes indicates the new Nero routinely encodes 10kbps less than the 2.6.2.2 and previous releases. My 48khz audio averages 69kbps with the 2622, and 59kbps with the 29996 under this preset. The problem is that I want to use HE-AAC VBR, but 59kbps is just TOO low to sustain audio for movie soundtracks. This seems for me the critical range too, as 69kbps works wonders for transcoding from television news mpeg-1 rips (but 59kbps drives me up a wall).
Was this a mistake, or intentional? For the time being, I have moved back to using 2.6.2.2
slippyC
Oct 12 2004, 02:09
Yep, somewhere around there is my breaking point as well(as far as acceptability).
To tell ya the truth I hadn't encoded anything in HE-AAC in awhile though. This is mainly because back in Feb or so there was talk of HE-AAC with new PS on the horizon, so I have been holding off. Well I take that back, I did encode a couple of things with that beta version of that PS enabled one. The thing was, as far as I could tell, there was only one setting available that enabled PS(which was around the midrange of what it supposedly is going to offer). I'm hoping they still have the setting around 48kbs, like the test files they gave us. I guess the reason why is because someone, somewhere was saying it is approx a 33% saving by having the PS. So anything lower than about 48kbs would be getting down into the unacceptability range again for me.
One of my major complaints with Ahead is that they force you into what their settings are instead of allowing the user to really adjust to their liking. If you try to adjust it the way you want, then it kicks in the setting that Ahead has pre-set. If the guys are going to do that, then they need to grey out/disable the other adjustments(this really irks me).
I do wish I had some of those older dll's to try what you are talking about and see if there is a workaround for your problem(like you can select 90-100 [LC] and choose HE down at bottom and it will actually encode that way, only one that does that to my knowledge).
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BTW, make sure that you select 50-70VBR up top and not the Streaming one in the middle drop down. It might not do any different, but like I was saying it is wacky the way Ahead has all that stuff pre-set.
grokwik
Nov 2 2004, 07:27
I have exactly the same problem !!!
With the old dll I have a 70kps file (internet preset) and 60kbps for the new dll and the same profile...
Is tere anyway to adjust the bitrate like I want? (between 65 and 70kbps)