First-off, excellent UI. Been using it for the past month or so and loving it (currently torn between this and foo_tunes, though this one has the upper hand as it's more stable). Thanks. :D

Now that it's reached beta status, thought I'd point out a couple of minor bugs and requests I don't think anyone else mentioned. Using the latest (beta 1) and foobar 0.8 beta 9 for all of these.

* would be great if menu toolbar behaved the same as the default UI--buttons actually sink in when clicked, and you can click-and-release the mouse to make a selection (rather than 1 click to drop down menu and a 2nd to select)

* there's an extra separator at the top of the context menu; doesn't appear in the default UI so I doubt it's my conext menu config

* Home/End keys should highlight the first and last items (respectively) in the playlist, rather than just scrolling up or down (unless this was intentional?); now that I mention it, the Pg Up/Down keys as well

* probably related to above, Shift+(Home/End/Pg Down/Pg Up) doesn't work; you added those keys for navigation in alpha 2, think you could do the same for playlist item selection? :]

* the new drag & drop feels a bit too sensitive--ending up with a lot of accidently-copied songs at the bottom of my playlist; dunno, maybe it's just me :p

* don't know if it's the UI which does it (and this sounds like it might be a bit harder to implement), but think you could change the current behavior of making multiple selections? the current way, for example, is if you select a track, hold shift and move the selection frame up and back down, everything that it touched remains highlighted (this is the normal behavior in the default UI as well and it has always bugged me). I think it'd be better if it would remain highlighting only the items from the point where you first held shift to the current position of the selection frame. The only point of current way (that I can see, anyway; correct me if I'm wrong) is if you wish to highlight tracks above, and then in the same selection, highlight some below; I can't picture many people using this 'wiping' fashion normally (?). The whole reason I point this out is because it's annoying when you accidently highlight too many items, you try to move back, and those items remain highlighted (though I guess you can manually deselect them with Spacebar, but still).

On a related note, Shift+Click selections seem a bit unintuitive. For instance, select a track, hold Shift, click above that track, and then click another track above that last one-- instead of highlighting all tracks from the initial track to the last one, it deselects all below the 2nd-clicked track and highlights from that point to where you clicked. Also, if you did the opposite, (select track > hold shift > click above > click below initial track) it will select everything instead of deselecting all above the 2nd track, etc.--the two seem switched around. (Err.. I'm probably explaining too much--everyone probably already knows the behavior that I'm talking about, and if not, mess around w/ the Windows gui ;p).

* would be nice if CTRL+Click could deselect tracks (what Spacebar already does)

* any chance on configuring the width of the Playlist list?

* right-aligned columns have no padding on the right, unlike left-aligned columns, which looks like 1 space (intentional?).

* the amount of space the volume gets in the status bar has always seemed a bit too much (same in default UI). Even the longest it can be--"-z10.00 dB" barely takes up half of that space (the same cannot be said for the 'Total time of selected tracks'). This matters most for those of us who use a long status bar formatting (i.e. %_path%). Could you shorten it a bit?

Edit: deselecting all when clicking in empty background would be nice too :] (same as default UI)

Thanks for reading, and keep up the good work, musicx2 :]

INFO (CORE) : startup time: 266 ms
ERROR (CORE) : Failed to load DLL: foo_ui_columns.dll, reason: Wrong version number; this component appears to have been built with newer version of foobar2000 SDK, please download latest version of foobar2000 in order to use it.

foobar 0.8 beta 7

ok. got beta 8 and it works OK now
but i needs some documentation of how to change colours (i mean global strings ...) i've deleted all vars in there and dunno how to write new ones
post up some discription please or link to some *htm doc
thx for your work ... keep it on mate

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Agreed

Agreed!!!!

I dont have any time right now to reply to your posts, I agree with most said anyway. Just letting you know that the over-sensitive right button dragging, and restoring correct min/max state on startup should be fixed if you redownload.

suicide: use 4 colour codes, with | in between them. the order is text, selected text, background, selected background.

Hello thread,

been using foo_ui_columns for a while now and probably can't live without it now, even though some things still bug me:

- Balloon tooltips aren't closed when a new tooltip opens. Each time I skip two or more tracks, the first tooltip stays open and I have to close all others by clicking on them. Of course, this only happens when I don't want the tooltips to stay open, the timeout works correctly.

- Trying to drag'n'drop files crashes fb2k.

- Don't know if this bug is the fault of fb2k itself, but when I let the UI sort by descending length using a custom spec of $num(%_length_seconds%,10) I get some slightly distorted sorting. Something like 8:02, 8:03, 8:01, 7:59, 7:58, 8:01, 7:57, etc. What's funny is, that it works flawlessly in ascending order...

If it's of any use to you, I'm using Win2k SP4 and fb2k v0.8 beta 9. And now, to something completely different:

- I'd like to see the above length column custom spec to be a default setting (fixes hour-long mixes being grouped with one-minute clips when sorting by length)

- I'd like to see $if2(%title%,%_filename_ext%) as standard setting for the track column (fixes songs with no tags showing up as blank lines)

- I, too, would like to have a standard (non-toolbar) menu. Or at least something that has the same look-and-feel to it.

- I'd like to have a visually "sunken" playlist list. Maybe with an option to open it on the right instead on the left, to give fb2k an IRC-client-ish look.

I hope this all isn't too much to ask, but I kinda had to say it. (;

$char(3)$rgb(a,b,c)|$char(3)$rgb(a,b,c)|$char(3)$rgb(a,b,c)|$char(3)$rgb(a,b,c)

thx for this

$char(3) is unnecessary in the column color format string.

[quote=DijiDiji,Feb 12 2004, 04:21 AM]1) When set to minimize to taskbar instead of system tray, Foobar will not be focused on currently playing track when minimized and restored.  It will instead be focused on the top of the playlist.[/quote]
Reproduced, fixed for next version.
[quote=DijiDiji,Feb 12 2004, 04:21 AM]2) If Foobar is in fullscreen mode when the program is closed, it will not restore to fullscreen mode when restarted, but a window with the same dimensions as fullscreen mode.  The beta 1 release seems to have partially addressed this, as the window mode is identical to fullscreen mode after a close and launch.  Still, might be nice if this could be cleaned up that little extra bit.[/quote]
I hope it was addressed in current version as mentioned above.
[quote=DijiDiji,Feb 12 2004, 04:21 AM]There are some additional options I'd really love to see implemented in ui_columns.  Most of them are straight from the default UI.  They include:

1) Ability to select "Do/don't show "now playing" submenu in rightclick menu".  I like my menus to stay thin.

2) Along similar lines, ability to select "Do/don't show keyboard shortcuts in menus".  That thin menu thing again.

3) Ability to select "Do/don't show volume in status bar".[/quote]Yes, I agree. They will all be options eventually.

[quote=DijiDiji,Feb 12 2004, 04:21 AM]4) Ability to select from the other default system tray icons included in the foobar2000.exe.  I know you can get them out of the exe and select them as a custom icon, but it would be mighty nice if there were an easier option built right into the config menu.[/quote]They are not in foobar2000.exe they are in foo_ui_std.dll. Anyway, extracting the icon is only something you would have to do once..

[quote=DijiDiji,Feb 12 2004, 04:21 AM]Since these are all options in the default UI config, I wonder if it would make sense to allow ui_columns to use all default UI config settings that are not overridden by options in the ui_columns settings.  If this were possible, it could free up some of the space on the second configuration page.  There would be no need, for example, to duplicate the system tray settings.[/quote]Well there's still a bit of space left on that page and I could always make a third one

[quote=DijiDiji,Feb 12 2004, 04:21 AM]Thanks for all the time and work![/quote]You're welcome

[quote=DijiDiji,Feb 12 2004, 04:21 AM]PS:  Your link for alpha 8 is not quite correct.  It points to foo_ui_column_07.dll.  It needs to point to foo_ui_columns_07.dll.[/quote]Well I'd rather not have anyone using the old versions anyway.
[quote=Silverbolt,Feb 12 2004, 04:45 AM]Now that it's reached beta status[/quote]I wouldnt take the beta label too seriously it wasnt gonna stay in alpha forever..

[quote=Silverbolt,Feb 12 2004, 04:45 AM]* would be great if menu toolbar behaved the same as the default UI--buttons actually sink in when clicked, and you can click-and-release the mouse to make a selection (rather than 1 click to drop down menu and a 2nd to select)[/quote]I'll try to make work properly otherwise I'll just give up..

[quote=Silverbolt,Feb 12 2004, 04:45 AM]* there's an extra separator at the top of the context menu; doesn't appear in the default UI so I doubt it's my conext menu config[/quote]The section at the top is for the menu items in Playlist/Selection in the main menu. It is fixed for next version that the separator will not show if you dont have any menu items under Playlist/Selection.

[quote=Silverbolt,Feb 12 2004, 04:45 AM]* Home/End keys should highlight the first and last items (respectively) in the playlist, rather than just scrolling up or down (unless this was intentional?); now that I mention it, the Pg Up/Down keys as well

* probably related to above, Shift+(Home/End/Pg Down/Pg Up) doesn't work; you added those keys for navigation in alpha 2, think you could do the same for playlist item selection? :][/quote]My intention was to change it to what you describe, and put the current behaviour as ALT-home/end etc. or something, it just hasnt been done yet. Sometimes you dont want to mess up your selections.

[quote=Silverbolt,Feb 12 2004, 04:45 AM]* don't know if it's the UI which does it[/quote]Yes, it is.[quote] (and this sounds like it might be a bit harder to implement), but think you could change the current behavior of making multiple selections? the current way, for example, is if you select a track, hold shift and move the selection frame up and back down, everything that it touched remains highlighted (this is the normal behavior in the default UI as well and it has always bugged me). I think it'd be better if it would remain highlighting only the items from the point where you first held shift to the current position of the selection frame. The only point of current way (that I can see, anyway; correct me if I'm wrong) is if you wish to highlight tracks above, and then in the same selection, highlight some below; I can't picture many people using this 'wiping' fashion normally (?). The whole reason I point this out is because it's annoying when you accidently highlight too many items, you try to move back, and those items remain highlighted (though I guess you can manually deselect them with Spacebar, but still).[/quote]
Since the other part of this was changed (previously, you could press space and when you go back down it woudl deselect them instead) it would probably make sense to change it.

[quote=Silverbolt,Feb 12 2004, 04:45 AM]On a related note, Shift+Click selections seem a bit unintuitive. For instance, select a track, hold Shift, click above that track, and then click another track above that last one-- instead of highlighting all tracks from the initial track to the last one, it deselects all below the 2nd-clicked track and highlights from that point to where you clicked. Also, if you did the opposite, (select track > hold shift > click above > click below initial track) it will select everything instead of deselecting all above the 2nd track, etc.--the two seem switched around. (Err.. I'm probably explaining too much--everyone probably already knows the behavior that I'm talking about, and if not, mess around w/ the Windows gui ;p).[/quote]Again, will be changed.

[quote=Silverbolt,Feb 12 2004, 04:45 AM]* would be nice if CTRL+Click could deselect tracks (what Spacebar already does)

* any chance on configuring the width of the Playlist list?[/quote]Again, will be done

[quote=Silverbolt,Feb 12 2004, 04:45 AM]* right-aligned columns have no padding on the right, unlike left-aligned columns, which looks like 1 space (intentional?).[/quote]Yes, I knew it did that I just hadnt bothered to change it yet

[quote=Silverbolt,Feb 12 2004, 04:45 AM]* the amount of space the volume gets in the status bar has always seemed a bit too much (same in default UI). Even the longest it can be--"-z10.00 dB" barely takes up half of that space (the same cannot be said for the 'Total time of selected tracks'). This matters most for those of us who use a long status bar formatting (i.e. %_path%). Could you shorten it a bit?

Edit: deselecting all when clicking in empty background would be nice too :] (same as default UI)[/quote]Again, you are correct, it will be changed.

[quote=Rabbadak,Feb 13 2004, 04:53 AM]Hello thread,

- Balloon tooltips aren't closed when a new tooltip opens. Each time I skip two or more tracks, the first tooltip stays open and I have to close all others by clicking on them. Of course, this only happens when I don't want the tooltips to stay open, the timeout works correctly.[/quote]Hrm, I will look into it.

[quote=Rabbadak,Feb 13 2004, 04:53 AM] - Trying to drag'n'drop files crashes fb2k.[/quote] I need more info since it doesnt crash here.

- Post crash log somewhere
- What type of files are you trying to drop?
- When exactly does it crash (when you let go of the left mouse button)?

[quote=Rabbadak,Feb 13 2004, 04:53 AM] - Don't know if this bug is the fault of fb2k itself, but when I let the UI sort by descending length using a custom spec of $num(%_length_seconds%,10) I get some slightly distorted sorting. Something like 8:02, 8:03, 8:01, 7:59, 7:58, 8:01, 7:57, etc. What's funny is, that it works flawlessly in ascending order...[/quote]And none of the people requesting descending sorting noticed that Fixed for next version.

[quote=Rabbadak,Feb 13 2004, 04:53 AM] - I'd like to see the above length column custom spec to be a default setting (fixes hour-long mixes being grouped with one-minute clips when sorting by length)

- I'd like to see $if2(%title%,%_filename_ext%) as standard setting for the track column (fixes songs with no tags showing up as blank lines)[/quote]Will do.

[quote=Rabbadak,Feb 13 2004, 04:53 AM] - I, too, would like to have a standard (non-toolbar) menu. Or at least something that has the same look-and-feel to it.[/quote]Addressed above.

[quote=Rabbadak,Feb 13 2004, 04:53 AM] - I'd like to have a visually "sunken" playlist list. Maybe with an option to open it on the right instead on the left, to give fb2k an IRC-client-ish look.[/quote] Ok I'll probably do them both then.

[quote]Thanks for reading, and keep up the good work, musicx2 :][/quote] You're welcome.

Yes, newest version has corrected this issue.



Also noticed this with UI sorting by artist. Would see items like "My Life With The Thrill Kill Cult, Natalie Merchant, My Life With The Thrill Kill Cult". If that's helpful.

http://shang.de/data/failure_00000007.txt



Seems pretty much filetype independent, I tested all kinds of local files and even mp3 and ogg streams, but I haven't found a single playlist entry that didn't result in a crash.



Crashes even before displaying the icon. I click, move to the left and notepad pops up.

beta 2

changelog:

beta 2
- fix aforementioned crash bug when drag items to left & tooltips enabled
- changed selection behaviours (shift click, ctrl click, pg up/pg down/home/end, shift up/down/pg up/pg down/home/end, ctrl pg up/down /home/end)
- made menu shorter
- removed spacing under toolbars
- menu "single click" thing works
- added options to hide volume/keyboard shortcuts/now playing menu
- reduced number of options that need restart to work
- fixed descending sort
- fixed scroll position when minimised
- fix separator shown in context menu when no menu entries in playlist/selection
- right aligned columns have padding like left aligned ones
- listbox playlist switcher is now reizable
- alternative playlist border, same options for listbox playlist switcher
- made drag + drop on listbox pl switcher like the tabs
- other minor changes/fixes

Impressive!
Two suggestions:
1. Middleclick on last playlist tab should hide playlist-tab-bar (only if deleting playlist on middleclick activated).
2. I don't know if it is possible, but clicking on "Playlist->Create new playlist" in menu should make either playlist tabs or playlist listbox visible (if not activated already).

Thanks for this great UI!

Drop-down menus has zero length (w2k issue AFAIK).

nice work

You mean autohide? Ok, noted.


There's a workaround isnt there? I dont know how to fix it, apparently you can use up/down keys anyway.

beta 3
- fixed some annoying selection bugs
- fixed ping on ALT- shortcuts (thanks kode54)

I'm not a programmer but I heard you just have to set the height or something.

Right-aligned text in status bar no longer works properly in beta 2 or beta 3.
This is my status bar dislay using the default UI:


and this is it now with Columns UI:


Love the latest improvements. Keep up your magnificent work.

Can you redownload and tell me if its fixed ?
My bad, should be fixed if you redownload. The standard ui also seems to pad it a bit on the right side, I cant be bothered to change that.. Thanks

wow, this beta3 has so much new since alpha9!
the new playlist list is a really neat idea, i'm sure i'm going to find use for that

i've notice a strange bug though. not sure why i didn't notice this in earlier versions, but i occasionally change foobar2000's volume with shift+ctrl+up/down to change the main playback volume.

with the columns plugin though, this doesn't work

also, i've noticed ctrl+page-up/down to cycle through playlist tabs isn't working either ..

bug? or my fault?

I couldn't shorten the hight of my foobar more than picture attached scince I installed foo ui columns beta 1 and above.
( Only when I used foo ui interface, in case of default user interface, fully resizable.)

You're not using dynamp again are you...

... You cant even assign those shortcuts in foobar 0.8 b9. (Well I cant anyway)

If you are using dynamp, get it to run command line instead, e.g.

foobar2000 /command:"Playback/Volume down"

Or find some other solution, there's a few around..


No I just set it like that to avoid some other problems. Oh well, redownload if you want to get rid of the size limits.

Thanks a lot musicmusic, wonderful !
It works well.
Thanks again.

This is not fixed for me on my Win2K system. My WinXP system never had the problem.

It is not

I dont know then.

If someone knows, I tried this based on what Jan S. said:

Which sets the height correctly but apparently doesnt fix the problem on w2k, so is useless.. Does anyone know what the correct work-around is.

I don't know, if I understand the problem correctly, but you can change the height of the drop-down via the resource editor in MSVC by clicking on the drop-down arrow.

Please have a look at the attached screenshot:

Thank you, that makes more sense..

New version uploaded, hopefully the playback order dropdown also works now under win2k.

The dropdowns in the options work for me, but the playback order dropdown still has the problem.

Can you redownload and try again, thanks..

Looks good now. Good work!

In section Uploads I put my columns settings file - odd and even string have different color and very simple album mode for playlist.

First, i would like to say that you have made good job with this plugin!

However balloon tips doesn't seem to get dynamic data (ie "http track titles" etc.). This works perfectly with the standard gui.

Slizepizza, what's this font your using here?? Looks good with these colors

vuilnis,
It's the korean font named enter-pulip9, and I think it will work well under english
WindowsXP.
You can get it here.

http://hanjakga.cafe24.com/typoenter/bbs/z...m&desc=asc&no=1

If you have any difficulty in downloading, plz give me your email adress then I'll
send it to you.

It will be fixed for the next version

My newest suggestion is for a menu-driven import/export of settings files (so you can switch quickly from a simple view with only artist/title to a complex view with album, track number, format, RG info, etc.)

I feel this would be quite useful.

Does anyone feel like sharing their settings files then? I find ui_colums very useful, but I haven't been able to make an attractive set of layouts...

I'd be happy to throw together a little website for such things.

(it wouldn't be dynamic tho, ... you would have to ftp or email files to me ... at least at first)

The default UI has a keyboard shortcut for "[main] System/Show now playing" which allows you define a keyboard shortcut for the balloon tips. Could this possibly be added?

Done

beta 4

changes:
- tabs/playlists auto hide (needs enabling)
- can drag tabs/playlists around (needs enabling)
- changed menu style
- can no longer loose the playlist by dragging playlist list too far
- show global shortcuts in systray menu
- ctrl rclick in playlist maintains selection like in std ui
- rclick statusbar shows now playing menu like std ui
- playlist filters support wildcards thanks to new 0.8 helpers
- toolbars/rebar no longer destroyed when just changing its config
- shift+ctrl works with pgup/down/hme/end
- balloon tip shortcut
- other minor fixes

[edit: redownload for version with fixed tabs drawing bug]


If all you want to change is the set of columns, perhaps a view switcher would be a better idea, to keep single configs self-contained. Basically it would work like the current playlist filters, except it works from a list of different views you define and you switch to them from from the ui somewhere.

So you can switch between a simple view, a detailed view, an albumlist view etc. from a menu. What do you think?

The menu driven import/export could also be done, but i wouldnt use it for the above (i.e. showing extra columns), because there is no easy way to sync two configs.

Amazing! I don't know if you can change it, but there is a tiny bug in the main-menu: If you press a menu-button then change to another menu-button and click on that button to close the menu, it reopens instead of close.
Thank you for that exelent UI!

Woo, playlist tab dragging :D

A suggestion would be that if no vertical scroll bar exists but a horizontal one does, that the mouse wheel scroll the window horizontally.

Also, a minor bug concerning the menu--if you move right into a subgroup and then press left, you'll move left to the next menu, when instead you should only move out of the subgroup.

Thanks and keep up the good work. Loving this UI <3

great ui, simply makes fb2k look like the core deserves or something , <ot>now is some1 could fix those buttons into some antialiased form would be mighty nice.</ot>

edit: trying to make a nice config, so far:
fb2k_ui_columns.gif

edit2: is it possible to show/hide columns based on the playlist name?

I've had three or four requests in this thread now, and you've been very quick to implement every one of them. I just wanted to say thanks.

Nice work musicmusic
I haven't really followed the development or used it before, but I tried beta 4 yesterday and got some ideas for a formatting.
My first problem was related to the "use custom colour spec for this column" feature. Am I right in assuming that you can't use variables defined in the global string, to decide the color? At least I couldn't make that work...

Anyway, here is the result of me being bored
Screenshot

Btw: I admit that I haven't read this thread...

Fixed


...and fixed, redownload [edit: not entirely, only when press right with keyboard] [edit2: should be fixed properly now]

Ok, i'll make it an option for net version, since some people probably won't like that..


Yes, that is what the playlist filters do.

If you want to hide a particular column on a particular column, set the filter to "Hide on playlists:" and ener the name in the adjacent box; separate mulptiple playlist names with a semi-colon.

If you want it to show only on a particular playlist, use the other filter type.

I did write a small manual explaining some of this stuff here, but I made it entirely in Microsoft Visio to make it easier to draw arrows everywhere...
.. so its only available as a .bmp rather than html or something, its also a bit outdated now. I'll probably re-do it as html sometime anyway.


You're welcome.

You are entirely correct, the global string isn't combined with the colour string. There used to be an option for that, but it was removed when I added the global colour string and I didn't feel like putting it back in. I'll put it back in for the next version then.

Was there a second problem ?


That's actually very creative. I think some new features would would make things like that easier/better. Maybe changing background colour in colour codes? Or something like that.


Also fixed in the updated version is a couple of bugs with text renderer & tab chars, one of which I noticed in upNorth's screenshot..

@ UpNorth,

I looked up your link



and was surprised about the alternatives that are delivered by UI columns! Really fantastic! Could you please post your strings or tell my where to find the adjustments of your screenshot????



Thanks!!!



Martin

Could I add a wish?

Add "Auto-resize columns" mode.
For example, in some cases playlist might have too long titles, or too short "album" values. Current situation with a fixed length is not good for many situations.
What I'd liked to get:
-Column's width is automatically set equal to a width, equal to maximum displayed value. For example, if title column values are: my_song and my_very_favorite_song, column's title is automatically resized to show second title completely.
-If total text width exeeds playlist width (we don't need any horizontal scrollers, right?), some columns might be reduced in size. We might also add "don't reduce" in column's properties for those ones, which must always be displayed completely (i.e. playback time).
What do you think about this idea?

Another wish is simple: display hint for a complete line, not just a column. For example, when artist and title don't fit column's width, I'd liked to see artist-title at once...

2musicmusic: if you need help in making more intuitive interface or look for someone to create plugin's documentation, e-mail me...

hmm... Somewhere along the way the ellipsis ("...") got truncated to just ".." when the string does not fit (at least for me using Win2K with Tahoma 8 font). This used to work. BTW, there is actually an ellipsis character that could be used, rather than drawing 3 periods. I'm not sure if you are already using this, or which is easier.

Would it be possible to have the ellipsis truncate at a character boundary, instead of drawing part of the character that is truncated?

Also, on Win2K, the dragger thing on visualization toolbar is being partially overlaid by the visualization itself. I think the vis needs to be moved a pixel or two to the right. (Maybe the Playback Order drop down needs to be moved a bit as well. It is right against the dragger.)