I would like this as well!

Ok. But you are aware of speedstep and what not, right?



Ooooh that was an evil bug. Thanks is fixed in final.


Definitely.

I only just realised, but you can also actually use colour codes in the sidebar.. I dunno if its a good idea or not, but seems to work..


Yes the name is a bit misleading, I just used that because the pref name in firefox is similar.


I am not going to bother with automated sorting. I have nothing against manual sorting, I just am not sure if the UI is the best place for it to be implemented, maybe a component or the core.


I was thinking just a simple one static colour for horizontal and one colour for vertical, rather than any titleformatting. Maybe titleformatting, it it doesn't prove to be too complicated/messy/ridiculous.


0.1.1 final is, erm, finally out.

Fixed a selection bug, the seekbar timer bug from beta 10, shift+lmb to delete playlists, and maybe some things I forgot..

Broken upload on the "settings database" website means it just links to the file at lycos, rather than serving as the usual mirror. Hopefully neksus will provide his usual mirror for whoever cant access lycos uk.

I will now have your babies musicmusic.... or maybe I'll just say thanks for the great UI instead

Could it be possible to have 'auto-hide playslists sidebar' for several playlists available in the future?

Thanks for your UI, it's great. Excellent work

@anza
Thanks for your ui, I really love it

Is there a chance that you might add 'highlighting the active playlist' to the playlist sidebar?

[edit]: I mean musicmusic of course

Thanks for the credit but it's not my ui

<hint>musicmusic</hint>

@musicmusic
Just wanna thank you for all the hard work you put into this component. I love it almost more than foobar itself

AWESOME!

Just what I was looking for.

My first post

First I want to thank musicmusic for a great plugin I just love it

But I have a feature request:

I use mirandaIM and it has the feature to automaticly resize the window to the height of the online users. So the more ppl online the longer window, also you can set the maximum of space it is allowed to use (for example 75% of the screen).

I wonder if it is posible to implement a simular feature in your GUI (this is only userfull in windowed mode offcourse ) it would be nice if I could set a max width to go along with it . I Just hate useless space, like others out there .

Other request, can you make it snap to the window edge .

I realised that this will cause the the sidebar to flicker when resizing, so the answer is no right now.


Thanks

What do you mean by for multiple playlists though? I thought you meant auto-hide where it hides/shrinks when the nouse isnt over it. Which may be implemented.


Thanks I think...

If by active playlist you mean playing playlist, then probably, I just need to check that I can reliably detect when it changes since thre isn't any specific callback for it. On new track & on stop should be enough I think, and any reordering of playlists will get it updated anyway.


Thanks also


At this moment I would have to say no, I dont think any auto-sizing window would be too useful. What exactly do you want it to snap to? "Work" area (screen except taskbar etc.) or other windows or both? Im not sure if its particulary useful either.

By multiple playlists I just mean several playlists (ex. Music library, Deftones, Favorites, Most 50 played, etc...) ont he side bar and that will auto-hide/shrink when the mouse isn't over it. I'm really happy to see that you will implement it

I will throw here just some suggestions if you feel it could be good to implement into Colum UI:

- Album list dockable or as a playlist into the playlist bar (with the same possibilities as a playlist to have artist, album, date, etc... colums)

- Cover art integrated into the UI.

Yes, the two last ideas proposed by jkwarras would be really great

In addition to being grateful to you for making this ui, musicmusic, I wanted to say how impressed I am at the amount of time you put in and how well you handle so many suggestions from other users. I've seen commercial software developers be less nice to their users, and they're making money off them!

I haven't made too many suggestions yet, if only because I only have the time top skim this thread and I don't want to repeat anything that may have been discussed so far. I really like that that the options are tabbed now.

great plugin

just wondering if you've given any thought to a side albumlist or something like foo_tunes?

Hey, I have more idea

well.. this requires an extra toolbar and a couple of buttons on the sidebar itself...

buttons for
+/- add new playlist (left click/right click)
+ directory/location (LC/RC)
Hide sidebar/Unhide sidebar (LC).

Note: the hide/unhide thing would be cool if it would have enough space to keep the unhide button shown.



just my ideas...

Something I've been missing from the standard GUI is the ability to drag - n - drop a file from the playlist to a folder in explorer and have that file be copied to where i dropped it. I'm on 0.1.1 beta9, if it's already been implemented (or if its planned for a future release) I'd like to know so I can grab it..

It can be done in Column UI just by holding 'Ctrl' and drag files from the playlist to the explorer

No, I've tested with High Performance.


many thanks to fix this bug and develop great plugin!

How about enabling the user to hide the status bar for the ultimate minimalist look? Frankly, I don't really need the status bar for anything and it's just there.

IIRC that actually is already on musicmusic's to-do-list.

Hi

Probably a rather stupid question, but I cannot seem to find any option which will do this.

How do I change the color of the main foobar playlist, instead of nasty white?

EDIT: damn I need sleep. I thought this was the foo_looks thread Well the original post is still here:

Default UI:
Preferences|Display|Default User Interface -> Playlist background color...

For other UIs it's different, for example in Columns UI it really depends on what formatting you use, but it's either under
Prefs|Display|Columns UI -> Globals|Colour -> The 3rd color
or
Columns UI -> Columns|"name of the column"|Colour -> The 3rd color.

Okay, this has been bugging me all evening and I'm damned if I can find the right answer I have a bunch of files with tracknumber set to x/y instead of just x, where x is the track number and y is the total tracks. I can't seem to get these to be parsed in the same way as those with just an "x" setting - is there actually a way to do this or is it intentionally not handled because it's non-standard? Or am I missing something completely and utterly obvious?

Cheers!

Mine appear fine using:



Steve

@musicmusic

It would be helpful to me, if you could give me a short status-update on two features. I'm not asking about when you will implement it and don't want to make you rush anything - i would just like to know how probable it is that the following features get implemented someday, so that i can plan ahead:

* A while ago, there were talks about adding either non-trackspecific global strings to ui_columns, or implementing this extension-like idea. Is any of this planned?

* A while ago some people asked for the possibility to define border-colors of a "cell" via the column-colorstrings. Are you planning to implement this someday?

thank you,
- Lyx

Thanks Most suggestions have been useful ones, and so I don't really have any problem adding them to my to-do list. When they get implemented though is a different story...


Please do not post the same question many many times, it has been answered already.

If you wanted to know if any progress has been made on it, then the answer is I have started some work on it and the new sidebar should be in the next version. As well as the possibility for 3rd party toolbars, as long as I do not run into any issues.


At some point I would like to do something about customisable buttons on the toolbar but that may be a while off yet.



1. Not sure yet. Possibly but to be honest it isn't at the top of my priorities for things to be implemented.

2. I haven't started anything on it yet, but it will be implemented, possibly even in the next version even (which isn't due anytime soon though). Yes with a formatting string, as long as things do not get too complicated.

foo_ui_columns 0.1.2 alpha 1 is out.

Main change is extensible rebar & sidebar.

Changelog:
-bugfix: some toolbar windows where not destroyed when the toolbar was removed, but recreated later
-several other various bug fixes
-implemented new sidebar, rewrote rebar code
-use proposed ui_extension api for sidebar, toolbars
-added tooltips support for playlist switcher ui
-toolbars can be completely hidden (useful without xp themes)

Known bug:
Resizing panels is buggy, because it is complicated. Unlock panels before resizing for better results.

Random notes:
-As an alpha release, it may be buggy. Use at your own risk.
-When you choose a new panel in the sidebar, it is added not toggled like the toolbars. This is by design, but may be changed.
-As a result of this separationof the ui elemnts, some of the configuration should probably also be separated in config. This is not done yet.
-I feel that some kind of central import/export/theme component outside of columns ui is necessary now, so that third party panels can store their settings in the exported configuration. I cant be arsed to develop it though.

Two panels by myself are also available:

History (sources available)

Shows the history contents as a list. Requires foo_history. Note: Is somewhat limited right now, colours and font is fixed.

Database explorer (sources available)

Albumlist style thing, supports multiple hierarchies.

All is available here, as well as the ui_extension headers. Feel free to develop the two panels further if anyone wishes. To compile link the project to the ui_extension project, using dependencies.

UI Extension

Most notes in ui-extension.h. If you have any feedback, constructive critism etc. start a thread in the development forum and post it there. Of course I will change the implementation in foo_ui_columns on any feedback recieved.

My ideas for new toolbars if anyone cares, are a foo_playlistfind toolbar (using either its api or reimplemented from scratch), and obviously a volume bar.

This is very cool. Looks really good.
I would add this myself, but I currently don't have VC++ so I'd like to add that there should be an option on what playlist the database view goes to

great work, musicmusic, i love it!

screenshot

How do you enable the sidepanels? I looked everywhere, and I can't seem to find it

edit: nevermind, I just got sidetracked by the millions of options that this plugin seems to have now

How do you resize the toolbars? I only get them in rows.
EDIT: Found it, you right click in the sidebar =)

Great plugin!

wonderfull work musicmusic!

one ergonomical feature request in database panel:
"view" dialog box and "refresh" button same in albumlist

Thanks a lot!

Works fine here

Some little suggestions:

- Side-bar: Auto-hide sidebar (or any toolbar i.e. Database explorer) when multiple playlists (right now, when more than one playlist it doesn't hide).

- Database Explorer: It makes more sens (to me) to have the database explorer in horizontal, I mean i.e. on top (or down) the playlist. Right now, in vertical (sidebar), you have to resize it a lot to view everything without having to use the arrows.

I guess that just having the possibility to resize it vertically when including it on the 'Default toolbar' (where Menu, Playback buttons, seekbar is by default), would do the trick (right now you just can see a line).

Some little configuration colors/columns etc... would be extra-cool stuff

Thanks again for your work, much appreciated

MuzMuz database sidebar is good, but......
How can i sort by directory structure?
Without this little feature sidebar isn't so useful for me...

Nice work, musicmusic!

My first thoughts:

The way Database Explorer currently works, makes it pretty much unusable to me.

The problem:
All "views" available are generated at startup. This makes it a pain to load this panel if you have a large database (thousands of tracks). It also makes foobar's load time ridiculous if this panel is enabled. To add to the problem, my own "views" are even more resource hungry than the default ones.

My ideas for improvements:
1) Use the same drop down list as seen in "Album list", to generate one "view" at a time.
2) Make it optional to populate the list/tree even though the panel is active. A refresh button could be used to populate it, as well as adding a needed refresh feature.
3) I'm not sure how good this last idea is, but I've been thinking about it for a while. Would it be feasible to use saved "views", to avoid generating them in real time over and over for the same database? If so, you could refresh only when you have gotten new tracks or have done changes, and enjoy faster load time the rest of the time. This would probably consume disk space, but at least to me, that isn't an issue.

Edit: I see one really positive effect of the current behaviour though. Once you have this panel loaded, you can browse through all views without delay. That's very convenient, and it would probably be nice to have this as an option in the future too.

A hope for the future:
A dead simple panel would be great to have as a template, for less skilled programmers attempting to create a panel. My plugin development consists mostly of reverse engineering, so one button, one text, one listbox or so would really help alot. Something along the lines of foosion's tutorial plugins is what I'm thinking of. Then my prealpha foo_navigator plugin might turn into a panel one day.


Thanks for all your efforts. Really appreciate it!

You can already refresh the database explorer, just right click on an item and select Refresh

Thanks, you just proved to me that I really am blind. I'm sure I did looked for it in the context menu.

My quick thoughts

Have the database refresh and nuke any dead entries upon opening the program (if at all possible)

I added it for the next version of that plugin, which I will probably upload later.


I will consider adding buttons/dropdown myself, but hopefully someone else will develop it further.. I have fixed it for the next build so that "refresh" shows up in the context menu when you dont right click on an item.


1. Why do you want it to hide with more than one playlist? I could reimplement the old auto-hide if that is what you want, but for the whole sidebar.

2. I could make the height configurable, but I cant really make it resizable via the UI with the rebar control. Would that do? (I.e. setting the height in preferences)

3. Colours for the database explorer is done for next version. Where do you want columns? Im not going to use a listview control and Im not writing a custom control for it so no I guess..



To be honest, it doesn't have much slow down here with database with ~2400 files x 4 hierarchies. What kind of delay are you seeing?

1. I will consider it. What about choosing a view by context menu? Dropdown list is fine though.

2. Ok it should be fairly easy to implement.

3. I dont think its worth it, and I dont know how much time it would actually save.

4. I know it isn't particulary simple, but well you could use one of the above panels as a base (maybe foo_history_panel), or I will consider releasing the source to some of the panels/toolbars in foo_ui_columns if you are particulary interesting in any of them. I'm happy to awswer any questions you may have, if I know the answer anyway.. Would some comments in e.g. foo_history panel help you?

I had hesistated posting a request for the Database Explorer panel as I thought you wanted someone else to pick up development. But as you have graciously entertained feedback for it, I'll post mine.

Would it be possible to support the tags without the opening and closing '%'? I'm not sure what the technicalities are, but with foo_albumlist for example, using 'artist' as the first parameter for a view supports multiple artist tags. This means that files with multiple artist tags gets displayed once for each artist tag.

And of course, really appreciate your work.

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Edit: IMO, ui extension is a milestone for fb2k in terms of it's interface. Hopefully more developers will start creating new panels. Here are some ideas for future panels:

Album art - Seems to be requested quite a lot lately.

Now playing info - A panel whereby fb2k's native tagz format is used to display info of currently playing file, with configurable fonts and colours.

Extended playlist generator - A panel version of tboehrer's plugin whereby panel will list available presets and clicking on the preset name on the panel will generate the playlist. Playlist queries configured in the perferences dialog.

Because if you display a lot of information in the playlist, the sidebar push to the right some information (columns) and you have to scroll right (arrow) to see it. If it auto-hide when you're not using it, you get all the information again and the whole functionality of the sidebar


Yes, it would do


The colors are welcome About the columns, I was thinking about something like the UI columns in the playlist, but now I can see that this is difficult and isn't that useful. With the extra-height and the actual customization level of the database explorer is more than enough.

Thanks again.

An idea I had that I would like to see is a host for the panels that is a popup window, maybe configurable (minimize/maximize buttons) so that people who like the old style with a seperate window could still use the panels. This would be trivial to implement. I myself don't want this feature, but I thought someone might.

Nice work, any chance of thier being column seperators without making a seperate column? Would be nice feature. Nice piece of work though, glad to see it's still being worked on.

I think a database search panel would be a pretty good idea as well.

Looks really cool. Thanks for working on this.

Updated all three plugins, bugfixes in all, and some updates to database explorer. Only bumped database explorer version though.

Database explorer now has configurable colours, configurable playlist name, configurable minimum hieght so can be used as a toolbar, and population on initialisation is optional.

At same url.

and how do we configure these settings?

fb2k -> preferences -> Database explorer panel... =)

The options for 'Show Playlist Sidebar' and 'Show Now Playing' in the columns ui submenu in the components menu don't seem to work.

nah, i got a suggestion, for the dbexplorer can it be done so that if a song has greater than 10 plays to be seen

, just a thought

also the results sort does not seem to work, i tried using

%artist%|%date%|%title%

still same results