not a surprise at all, but did see this screen

when looking at a song today; using the 4.20.7.2 build. Planning on just dropping it altogether rather than upgrade. (edit 2: not that anyone should care about that last bit obviously if that was not blantantly clear originally)

edit: redundant word

Ok... And the point of this thread being? Upgrading from 4.2 -> 4.7 sounds wise to me anyway.

But sure, just drup using iTunes altogether instead of upgrading it. I'm sure there are loads of people that care.

Quality issues, supported by ABX results, have been reported with the quality of the AAC encoder of later versions of iTunes that were not present in versions 4.1 and 4.2. I imagine that would be a reason for some people to care.

All right, so they're planning to discontinue it. Will the trick of using "QuickTimeMPEG4Authoring.qtx" from version 4.2 as a replacement for the newer version installed to C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\QuickTime still work? If so, there's nothing to worry about... if you were smart enough to back up your old *.qtx files.

- M.

Didn't we establish that the issues that arose with the AAC encoder in iTunes 4.6/Quicktime 6.5.1 have been fixed in 4.7/6.5.2?

See: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=28949

my personal reasons for not upgrading are:
0) no use for the AAC encoder as I use Compaact! for those files
1) intial dislike for it as media player that has changed to 'could work with it if the only other option was Realplayer' - still lacks support for almost format I use though.

just thought I would mention it when that message popped up on the crashbox this morning.

edit: moronic spelling error

No, we haven't established any such thing... yet. But a few members of the board, known to have very good ears, have encountered a few specific situations in which they found the new encoder more suitable to problematic samples.

Whether or not the problems have been truly "fixed" is, at this point, indeterminate.

- M.

From my knowledge any iTunes before 4.6 will have support for iTunes Music Store dropped from their program. Upgrade if you need to buy music, or just keep plodding along .

The same smallish amount of members detected the original problems in iTunes 4.5, and with a similar small amount of samples. So, even back then, this problem was indeterminate.

Could you be more precise? I don't remember any ABX results posted about iTunes 4.7 on HA. Do you have a link?

There's at least one in the thread I linked to (and you participated in ).

I don't know of any posted ABX results about iTunes 4.7, but you offered this comment from your own experience, and I had your words (and your ears) in mind when I posted the lines you quoted.

... but on re-reading your words, I realize I may have misinterpreted you intent; nowhere do you state that the new 4.7 is "more suitable," just that it "should be interesting to test." Sorry for muddying the waters!

I'll stand by the comment about the new encoder's quality being "indeterminate," but I'll try to read more closely before alluding to anyone's remarks in the future (and I'll be the first to admit that I should have included the link I was thinking of in my earlier post!).

- M.

Kuniklo's? Hardly. He just said he couldn't ABX one of his samples. He didn't post test results nor gave more information about his test.



Problem is, Guru wrote that he just looked at graphs on Audition ("I didn't listened to the results."), so you can't take his ears into consideration when commention on quality.

Yep, I noticed that when I re-read it. But in my initial post I was working from memory, and didn't double-check my references.

- M.