*bump* you seem to have missed my last post...

Hello,
since the fb2k 0.9 RC was released, do you plan to compile your plugin with 0.9 SDK or you'll wait for 0.9 final? I'd like to switch to 0.9 version, but I can't witnout playlist_tree :-). Btw. thank you for the great work.

Hello

I was thinking in another interresting feature for playlist tree, but perhaps it's not possible, or very hard to do.

It's the ability to add content of burned compressed music CD's or DVD's. I know this implies to have a second database separated from the foobar's database, and to add some functionalities (scan disc, rescan disc, and a new field to store media name is necessary). Perhaps that must be a foobar database evolution, and not a playlist tree evolution. I don't know, but I think this will be a pretty good feature.

Wonder if this is possible?

I want a script that will add up all the play counts for one album as a total.

EG:

Album X has 3 tracks:

Track 1: 1 play
Track 2: 4 plays
Track 3: 2 plays

Album X: 7 plays total. Then put this in the album list next to the name.

My attempts at doing it failed badly.

Edit:

NM, I worked it out: %album% '@sum<%play_counter%>' in format.

if there is a version for 0.9 hopefully half of the options that don't work will either be removed or fixed

what options have you found that dont work?

After thinking about this, you might actually be able to do this now using @hidden.. I have not tested it out, so I am not positive put you might be able to do something like

%artist%|%album% '@format<$if($less(%_itemcount%,4),@hidden ,)'|%title%

as a format string.

EDIT: After looking at it, it appears my parsing algorithm is not sophisticated for this to work currently...

a bunch of them, for me anyways.
when using the search function, sometimes the background on the playlist tree panel would turn all red, sometimes it would crash foobar, sometimes it hangs foobar, and sometimes it works..
single click expands - has no effect. after foobar is restarted the playlist tree does not respond to the mouse at all and then sort of disappears taking the background color with it. disabling the option and restarting foobar seems to fix it.
ive experienced crashes and other odd behavior when using the drag and drop.

when disabling some of the options, it seems they still halve work..

[Edit: another small annoyance is when the order is set to shuffle, and you send files to the playlist, the first file in the playlist tree always plays first as opposed to playing a random file first.]

also i would recommend users back up their configuration file when changing playlist tree options because i have hosed my config file a few times.

however i realize it is an experimental plugin and i expect some problems.
its a really powerful plugin and im almost shocked at the things that u can do with it. good work

What version are you running?

I am working on better stability for 2.0... I just tried the single click expand option and you are correct that seems to be broken and I am working on fixing it... if you would be interested in testing out some of the new features for 2.0 and some of the stuff I am having been working on, check out this:

http://bowron.us/smf/index.php?topic=208.msg845#msg845
http://bowron.us/smf/index.php?topic=208.msg846#msg846

using version 1.7.17 right now. i'll check out that preview release. i had no idea u had another forum, i should be able to find tonnes of ideas for this in there.

This is from a long time and happy user of PLT.

I use a main FB to play and another install as a test FB.

On the main FB I'm still using PLT 1.7.0 b3 and I don't remember a FB crash due to it.

On the test install I got some crashes when testing new fuctions of new releases of PLT.
When that happened, after I reported it, the author has always been very fast in fixing the issue (if possible) or giving some more advice about the new function or some workaround to get what I was looking for.

I must also say that sometimes he built a new function almost on request.

Yes, PLT is not perfect, but I wouldn't call it "experimental" and, if you have any problems, just report them clearly and I'm sure the author will be glad to help you.

My approach to Foobar has changed two times:

- since I started using PLT as a media library
- since I started using (and tweaking) a gob layout as my front end.

Thanks to both.

as it is its not crashing at all. using the tree works perfect as i have it configured. the only feature i really use is the playlist tree its self. i have tried the search (with the results in the tree) but i ran into a lot of problems..

heh, didnt many people were actually using the stuff ive posted. ive probably made a lot of changes since the last time i posted anything. what layout are u using?
heres a current screen.

Nothing fancy, as you can see.
I'm not even iterested into album art.

But your config made me start learning how to customize FB and columns UI.

ic, kind of like an explorer style view. imho its the best way to choose from large lists.

ive tried the 2.0 preview and its a huge step forward. after importing the old tree, foobar loads 5 seconds faster. the auto refresh works much faster and doesnt refresh the entire panel. i cant get the no browse feature to work tho. also is there a way to set certain folders and queries to be expanded or colapsed on startup?

Edit: i noticed its much easier to go thru the options now that you have to click the check boxes

The queries and folders should retain whatever state they were in when you saved as far as collapsed and expanded...

I will look into the nobrowse issue....

I added an interesting feature last night that I think people will come up will cool uses for... Nested queries... This is what I put in the changelog about them:

---
Nested Queries - w00t - Probably NOT for the casual user
if you put something like @query<%title%;title HAS %title%,'%title%'> in the formatting string, it will generate
a query for each matching item... I'm not sure the best uses of this but I am sure that someone will find this
useful... Say were were trying to find cover versions of Beatles songs you might try something like this:

Criteria: artist HAS beatles
Format: @query<%title%;title HAS %title%;'%artist% - %title%'>

NOTE: thos are SEMICOLONS between the parameters

If a query with the same name and criteria already exists it will not be duplicated...
---

I havent released a new preview version yet though... maybe soon...

i cant seem to get the global variables to work quite right.

suppose i want to add the following to a global variable named "artist_the":
$if($strcmp($left(%artist%,4),The ),$right(%artist%,$sub($len(%artist%),4))', 'The,%artist%)

what code would i have to use to put in the global options, and what code can i use to retrieve it to use in the format and sort fields?

I'm thinking about changing the basic icon set for the next version. If anyone has graphic talent or knows someone who does and wants to contribute, please make a set and post it or email me. The icons need to be 16x16 and arranged in a horizonal layout like this: http://foobar.bowron.us/images/playlist_tree.bmp

The images must look decent over a white background. First icon should represent a file, the second a folder and the third a query. After that, whatever icons you feel would be useful to have to select from.

Thanks.

is it possible to hide the contents of a query? for example, make a query called All Music that filters all the tracks with a 0-1 rating, and does not have any nodes or leafs under it. where its only function would be to send its entire contents to the playlist. there are a lot of places i would like to remove tracks from the trees.

and are the globals working in the 2.0 prieview?

Yes, with @hidden. If you are using the 2.0 preview, you can choose how hidden nodes are displayed too.



They should be, but I havent done any testing of them yet.

EDIT: I just tested some out and they are working... Here is an example of how they work. I set my global variables to this:



Then in the tree, I use %_isbeck% to access that variable.

Hi and thank you for this plugin which is a must have.
I'm writting from France and forgive me for my poor english...

I've got qweries such as this one :
(artist HAS @playing<%artist%> AND NOT artist IS @playing<%artist%>) OR (artist2 HAS @playing<%artist%>) in qwery field and

@format<@quote<@playing<%artist%> apparaît aussi dans ...>> in the label field.

in fact, it works good we i have multiple artists, il gives me information about other songs in my playlist. I use artist2 with electro in which you can have a track with a mix form "artist" but the music is written by another one.

So, this qwery work, no problem.
But, it is of course emtpy sometimes.
When it's empty, i would like de node to be hidden and i really don't know how to do it.
Does anyone has got a solution ?
Thanks in advance

Hmm can't wait for this plugin to be updated, whats the status?

I'm working on convert plt to 0.9 in pieces... I think this time around the browser is going to be a better and more useful feature... I'm going to be implementing it as multiple panels, and I think I am going to make it navigate-able similar to how I remember iTunes working...

Here's a preview:
http://foobar.bowron.us/foo_browser_preview.png

That would be great, it's a function that is really missing!
Will you solve it with ColumnsUI or make it compatible with it, so that it can work beside further PlugIns like AlbumArt?

any chance the playlist tree panel will make it into 0.9?

and is it possible to use the enter key to send items selected in the playlist tree to the active playlist and play it?

I think he already said he's porting it....

He's splitting the component up. He already released foo_browser and foo_sendtodevice.

I'm in the process of porting the playlist tree panel to 0.9... I may release a beta version this weekend, but the functionality is pretty basic right now...

If you interested in knowing what I am working on and the status of playlist tree, you can find my notes here: http://wiki.bowron.us/index.php/Foobar2000...list_tree_2.x.x

I placed a beta version on my website: http://wiki.bowron.us/index.php/Foobar2000...list_tree_2.x.x

This is not a release for novice and new users. Please read the text on the page before using.

Im using an ATI remote wonder plus, and girder to control foobar. i can map the buttons on the remote to the up/down/left/right keyboard keys so i can navigate the tree with my remote, but i cant find anyway to send the selected node to the playlist. is there a keyboard shortcut (preferably the enter key) i can set to do this?

You should be able to bind a shortcut key to "Playlist Tree/Send to Active Playlist" in the context menu, and the tree should process shortcut keys when it has focus.

i tested it out on the 0.9 compatable plugin. it works there. just need to wait for a playcount plugin

2.0.beta2 is out

Many changes sinces the last beta, and we are approaching a prime time ready release (hopefully). Please post any bugs you encounter.

The Changelog contains the list of the changes since the last beta, and all the changes that have happened in the 2.x.x series.

I will also take feature requests on new features or features that have not yet made it back into the component. Requesting a feature that has not yet made it back lets me know that there is still a desire to have that feature. You do not need to request search though, I plan to add that soon.

Thanks.

It occurs to me - now that 0.9 has autoplaylist functionality, couldn't you integrate that with this plugin?

I'm thinking that you could make this almost a complete replacement for the main playlist, simply by implementing all of that into this plugin. Here's what I would do:

-Add the ability to be an actual playlist manager, where dragging, renaming, deleting and editing the contents thereof would actually change foobar's playlists.

-Completely integrate your playlist query syntax into the autoplaylist system, so any new queries automatically create a new playlist. Existing playlist locks should behave exactly as they would in the main playlist window, and f_p_t queries should behave as they were, but as autoplaylists of their own.

-I've said this before, but I'll say it again: this case-sensitive behavior is nonstandard and should be dropped. If I don't have to worry about it in any other plugin for Foobar, I shouldn't have to worry about it here.

-One last thing: Would it be excessively difficult to use the standard windows icon set by default? It make it a lot easier for everyone I think; most people rely on Windows' theme anyways to control Foobar's appearance.

Thanks cwbowron

- I cant see any difference between grey and sunken, they all look like this to me: http://omoikane.minstrum.net/foobar_wip.png , which is different from grey and sunken for other panels.

- Would it be possible for the double clic to have the same ordering as a drag&drop ? currently a double click "sent to playlist" is ordered by directory structure (from what i can tell) while drag&drop respect the struture of the playlist tree.

I am not sure if this feature is already available, but the ability to add a desired file to the playlist queue by middle clicking.

I'll give you half of your requests in the next release...

I changed the way query results are added so that comparing folder names should be case insensitive so "Beck" and "beck" should go into the same folder. The folder will be named by which ever file gets there first (based on population sort order).

I also added an option to load the system bitmaps. It will require you to select the icons in preferences because the default indices wont make sense with the system bitmaps. If the option is selected, the system bitmaps are loaded, then the playlist tree ugly icons are loaded.

Are you going to change the case-sensitivity in Browser too? 'Cause, um, i'd rather you didn't (or made it a check-box option), i kinda like it. :p

i just found this plug-in and it is just what i was looking for. i was looking for something similar to the dynamic library plugin i use in winamp. i've been using foo_uie_explorer, but it was slow and i couldn't sort files.

quick question, when i add a root folder and drag a bunch of files/folders into it, i click on the root folder in the playlist tree and every file in the root folder including the subdirectories are seen in the playlist view. is there a way so that when i click the root folder, it only shows the files from that folder in the playlist? maybe add an option like, "show files from subdirectories in root folders in playlist", or something like that.

thanks.

This should be fixed in the next release.

I have a bug i think. And i also apparently need help figuring this out (this is the first time i'm using this, i never used it for 0.8x).

There are two bugs.

The first one is the one that Draikin already reported (changing the edge style doesn't work). For what it's worth, the edge style that you use by default (in both Browser and Playlist Tree) is the correct one for my visual style. Only your panels and the album-list panel show up using the correct edge styles, but since none of the other ones (trackinfo, visualisation, albumart) do i'm forced to choose one that looks the same for all of them. :/

The second bug is a pretty trivial one but whatever: The panel correctly detects what font settings i should be using (Calibri, 8-point), but it doesn't detect the correct background colour. Not a big deal, i can just change it, but still. :shrug:


And then aside from that... i can't figure out the panel. I read the tutorial, and it says that i should right-click the root (which i guess is 'Playlist Tree' by default?) to add a new folder. But there's no such option in mine. It just shows the standard context menu (the same as what shows when i right-click in Browser), with the new addition of the Playlist Tree sub-menu.



Am i missing something?


edit:
Oh, i guess i'm just s'posed to use the Library menu for now? :/

Some of the information in the Tutorial is out of date with the 2.x.x series for fb2k 0.9. One of those things is the context menu. To access the playlist tree specific context menu, hold shift while you right click or middle click on a node.

For the most up to date reference on how things are working you can try to wade through the Changelog

Oh. Yeah, i just saw that. Thanks.

edit:
Um i found another bug.

When i set the double-click option and checked 'Refresh Queries', suddenly an empty scroll area appeared around the panel:



The only way to get rid of it was to restart foobar.

Another possible bug: The 'reverse' check box in the query dialogue doesn't work for me, unless i'm misunderstanding its purpose or something.

It appears to be working as designed.

If you specify a population sort order, the files will be sorted before they are added to the tree by that criteria. If you click the reverse option, the list will be reversed after it is sorted, then items will be added to the tree. Its useful if you wanted to make a list of top tracks, etc.



Try resizing the panel next time that happens. I will look into a real fix.

Is there a way to get to the PLT context menu just right clicking, without having to use shift?
If not, would you consider getting it back, please? I'd like being able to forget my left hand while using FB.

Hm. OK, i sort of figured out why it wasn't working for me.... I had to uncheck the sort by display name thing. (edit: Never mind what i had here before, conflict with the 0.8 playcount plug-in. Sorry. :p)


And another thing (lol): There's no option, as far as i can tell, to change the icon of the selected leaf. Like i changed the unselected one from the little music note to my own icon, but if i select it it turns back to the music note. Is that right?

There will be. I added a main menu option to show the context menu and I will be making it so that you can map the right click and right click + shift to whichever action you want.

Don't consider it a feature request but just a talk about a feature: I'm not sure it would be useful in the everyday use.

What I'm talking about is having the ability to choose to make the panels' headers follow the preferences I put in their config page or to show the singles levels of the PLT query I have just selected.
In this second way, as I select a node, I will have its levels individually shown one per panel. This works as a sort of a panels' preset config list.
To make things easier (at least for the user...) there should be an always visible button to toggle among the two behaviours.

Don't know, I'd like to hear some other voice about it....

I want to create an average rating for each album and I'm using this format:
$avg(%rating%): %artist% - %album%|%title%

What I get are folders with the songs of an album which have the same rating,e.g.

3.00: ALBUM A (folder contains all songs of this album with rating 3)
4.00: ALBUM A
2.00: Album B
4.00: ALBUM B

Do I have to change the format or is this function not working correct by now?

$avg should be working, but the evaluation needs to be delayed until the item is displayed, not at the time of the initial query, which can be done using quoats, but its gets a little hairier because we want the inner %artist% not not be evaluated until inside the $avg. Long story short, this might work:



I should be adding the @quote operator into the formatting, but its not there yet. Once I do, it shouild simplify this a little to: