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salmonmoose
Ok, I'm an oldschool Winamp user (I remember being excited about finally getting my hands on version 1.0). But with that somewhat spurious report of it's development ending I decided to look into new media players - seeing that the developers of Audioscrobbler like foobar, I actually spent some time installing it and decking it out, and have fallen in love with it since.

What I'm looking for, is basically Moodlogic. But free, not bloated, and community driven.

I'll explain, whilst it's all well and good to tag my files with a star rating, and sort by that to build playlists.... I have a broad taste in music, and sometimes, no matter how much I love it, I'm not in the mood for Death Metal, or, Emo, or whatever... a single rating doesn't let you set the mood of your tracks very well.

Now, if you havn't played with Moodlogic, it lets you build a whole stack of metadata about your tracks, relating to tempo, mood, lyrical content, even things like prominant instruments. Unfortunately, it can be a little counter intuative, and is restricted by the fact that they're ultimately trying to make money from you.

The upshot of collecting this data, is that it can build brilliant playlists, you can for instance tell it to generate an hour of uplifting music, and it will build you a playlist.

I can hear you asking.. "well, why don't you build playlists depending on your mood by hand?" well, simply, I don't have time, I just want to be able to click on a button and have it work for me.

So, any ideas? suggestions? interest? I'm sure you could do it pretty much with custom tags and funky sorts, but it would be nice to have a panel that showed the current extended rating for a track, let you tweak it, and save it....
jkwarras
I'll also like something like that in fb2k, but it depends a lot on tags so at the end I think it's possible but it depends on you. There's some components that can do +- what you want, but not certainly as easier as moodlogic or other softwares.

For ex.

- Tag all yoru files with relevant information: %tempo%, %mood%, %situation%, %bpm%, %genre%, %styles%. (I'm thinking allmusic.com information)
- With this infromation you have 2 choices AFAIK in fb2k:

1) Extended Playlist Generator: to generate a aplaylist based on your needs (make calls to the tags information you want)
2) Use shuffle control: something like this for ex.
CODE
-artist|-album|+genre|+tempo|+mood

Play a track that's close to your current mood and set playback mode as 'Shuffle tag set'...it's the closest to 'feels like current song' (moodlogic) I've found in fb2k.

Some discussions:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....69&hl=moodlogic
metal_termite
How would you go about tagging every song with the correct tempo and mood? I suspect you know of a program that connects to some database and does it automatically? It would be insane to do it manually.
jkwarras
QUOTE(metal_termite @ Nov 22 2004, 04:03 AM)
How would you go about tagging every song with the correct tempo and mood? I suspect you know of a program that connects to some database and does it automatically? It would be insane to do it manually.
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Obviously it'll be insane wink.gif

- mood: I use the Godfather with patch for allmusic.com (search the godfather forums). It's stored in a tag called %tunes%.

Another useful is %themes% (like %situation%....party, etc...) and %styles% (I like the fact that the genre is more general, and styles is a collection of sub-genres, types of music..).

- tempo: This is the method I use (completely personal and inaccurate):
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....ndpost&p=232192

Note: Use Mixmeister DJ Mix as Automatic BPM analyzer, it's freeware and as good (to me) as other tools.

You can read also read this:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....opic=24611&hl=#
salmonmoose
QUOTE(metal_termite @ Nov 22 2004, 10:33 PM)
How would you go about tagging every song with the correct tempo and mood? I suspect you know of a program that connects to some database and does it automatically? It would be insane to do it manually.
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Well, see, the idea was to use something like Audioscrobbler to collate the information...

Along the lines of when you submit a track it adds your stats to the public average, keeping your local ratings however. Then another part of the plugin could query the database and set ratings based on artist/album/track name (or MB tag or what ever)
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