Full Version: Channel Mixer (foo_channel_mixer)
thanks ultranalog!
QUOTE(ultranalog @ Jun 10 2005, 06:43 PM)
I'll try to find a way for you give you write access to the folder so you can update the file yourself.
Don't trouble to do that - I will move my site to the new hosting soon.
Ok, I'm goin' to line up in order to give you a big thx :=)
Well that's really a funny thing about foobar that you believe a certain component is not available - but then you see all of a sudden that it accually was.
Your component is especially great because as far as I know there was only one Winamp plugin which could accually handle that job and it crashed all the time
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Ok so here's my obvious and notorious feature request: Will there ever be a chance of seeing a matrix configuration like in the matrix mixer?
Cheers,
Chris
Well that's really a funny thing about foobar that you believe a certain component is not available - but then you see all of a sudden that it accually was.
Your component is especially great because as far as I know there was only one Winamp plugin which could accually handle that job and it crashed all the time
.Ok so here's my obvious and notorious feature request: Will there ever be a chance of seeing a matrix configuration like in the matrix mixer?
Cheers,
Chris
QUOTE(Chris Norman @ Jun 11 2005, 12:10 AM)
Will there ever be a chance of seeing a matrix configuration like in the matrix mixer?
I don't think so... My ideas are moving in the another direction.
Hi,
I added a page about Channel mixer on my website:
http://eolindel.free.fr/foobar/
But I'm not sure of all I said on this page about the settings, could you correct me or give me some hints about the "holes"? I left
the page itself is here:
http://eolindel.free.fr/foobar/channel.html
thanks
I added a page about Channel mixer on my website:
http://eolindel.free.fr/foobar/
But I'm not sure of all I said on this page about the settings, could you correct me or give me some hints about the "holes"? I left
the page itself is here:
http://eolindel.free.fr/foobar/channel.html
thanks
QUOTE(Bachi-Bouzouk @ Jun 19 2005, 12:36 AM)
Stereoimage width:
What you mean by "tiredness" in reference to this option?
Rear in front: amount of the signal of rear channels in the front channels.
Front in rear: --\\--
Invert: 180 degree phase shifting
I was thinking of problems of stereo, as it could tire to listen from 2 different speakers with the same channel (in copy mode especially), I don't know if I explain myself well.. In some way, it could create the same problem as with headphones (which is corrected with "crossfeed" ) with problems for the brain to locate where the sound comes from.
Anyway, thanks a lot. I edited my page with your corrections
Anyway, thanks a lot. I edited my page with your corrections
Hi.
I am a person who asked about 2.1 setting. Do you remember? ^^
I am using your component well. Then I have a question again.
In the 2.1 mode, how much subwoofer volume is right?
I think 1.0 is a little loud, and 0.5 is small somewhat.
0.6 or 0.7?
In my general concept, 0.5 or 1.0 has to be correct answer.
But my ear tells me "0.65 is suitable..."
My ear is wrong? I want to know correct answer.
Thanks all the time. Sorry for my poor language...
I am a person who asked about 2.1 setting. Do you remember? ^^
I am using your component well. Then I have a question again.
In the 2.1 mode, how much subwoofer volume is right?
I think 1.0 is a little loud, and 0.5 is small somewhat.
0.6 or 0.7?
In my general concept, 0.5 or 1.0 has to be correct answer.
But my ear tells me "0.65 is suitable..."
My ear is wrong? I want to know correct answer.
Thanks all the time. Sorry for my poor language...
QUOTE(year98 @ Jul 11 2005, 04:59 AM)
In the 2.1 mode, how much subwoofer volume is right?
I don't have a subwoofer, therefore I can't advice you to use any kind of settings.
In theory, the sub volume should be set to 1.0, but in practice there is many things from which the resulting sound depends - subwoofer's SPL, position in the room, acoustic response of the room, etc...
Trust your ears!
hi all, i just downloaded this, i'm not sure how to set it up..
i have 5.1 but i can only hear sound in my two speakers up front, what am i doing? does anyone have an .xml so i can import ?
i have 5.1 but i can only hear sound in my two speakers up front, what am i doing? does anyone have an .xml so i can import ?
QUOTE(jaybot @ Jul 26 2005, 09:59 AM)
hi all, i just downloaded this, i'm not sure how to set it up..
i have 5.1 but i can only hear sound in my two speakers up front, what am i doing? does anyone have an .xml so i can import ?
i have 5.1 but i can only hear sound in my two speakers up front, what am i doing? does anyone have an .xml so i can import ?
Question real quick. Did you change the output channels to 4 or 6? Also, are you getting sound from all the channels with from other software? Hope this helps, good luck!
QUOTE(Rogeld @ Jul 26 2005, 06:35 PM)
QUOTE(jaybot @ Jul 26 2005, 09:59 AM)
hi all, i just downloaded this, i'm not sure how to set it up..
i have 5.1 but i can only hear sound in my two speakers up front, what am i doing? does anyone have an .xml so i can import ?
i have 5.1 but i can only hear sound in my two speakers up front, what am i doing? does anyone have an .xml so i can import ?
Question real quick. Did you change the output channels to 4 or 6? Also, are you getting sound from all the channels with from other software? Hope this helps, good luck!
hello. it's on 6. and i can hear sounds from other programs, ie wmp10
Go to "upmix" tab. Set mode to "copy" or "surround".
sound still only comes out from the two front speakers.
Just to be sure, your 5.1 isn't digital, is it? Foo_channel_mixer is not a dolby/dts encoder.
hm.. forget it, ihave no idea what that means..thanks for your help.
actually, problem fixed.
i went to control panal, and my sound setting was on desktop speakers, changed to 5.1 and then re-enabled the plugin. and whalah, works.
lovin what im hearing now!!!!!!
actually, problem fixed.
i went to control panal, and my sound setting was on desktop speakers, changed to 5.1 and then re-enabled the plugin. and whalah, works.
lovin what im hearing now!!!!!!
Hello,
I’m a french user
I use foo_dsp_continuator & channel_mixer, i have no problem with one or other separately. But with 2 together, after 1 or 2 song, the begin of next is with a delay, like a chorus, i have multiple departure of song. I have to stop and restart until the next bug.
EDIT : After few more test without channel_mixer i already have the same bug, channel_mixer is for nothing
I’m a french user
I use foo_dsp_continuator & channel_mixer, i have no problem with one or other separately. But with 2 together, after 1 or 2 song, the begin of next is with a delay, like a chorus, i have multiple departure of song. I have to stop and restart until the next bug.
EDIT : After few more test without channel_mixer i already have the same bug, channel_mixer is for nothing
guys.. not sure i said this before! can anyone PLEASE make a 0.9 beta 6 compatible version? :S
QUOTE(SafirXP @ Aug 24 2005, 05:28 PM)
guys.. not sure i said this before! can anyone PLEASE make a 0.9 beta 6 compatible version? :S
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....ic=34215&hl=SDK
apologies... patience is the key i guess.
well, i think this plugin should come with by foobar by default, or at least in the "special" version!
well, i think this plugin should come with by foobar by default, or at least in the "special" version!
Hi.. I wonder why you haven't released a newer version.. it's been a while since 0.8 alpha was released. Do you intend to release a newer version anytime soon Skipyrich? I hope you do.. Anyway, NICE WORK!
Why? There's nothing wrong with the current version. It works perfectly and there'll be enough work adapting it when FB2k 0.9 final comes out.
Version: 0.9 alpha
- added: bypass option
- added: foo_delay has been merged into this project
- changed: profiles page design
- fixed: crash on 2->1 mix
- fixed: crash on windows shutdown
http://skipyrich.siteburg.com/store/foo_channel_mixer.zip
Warning: To safe migrate from older versions please store your profiles to file then install the newer version of plugin and then import profiles from file.
PS. Will no more versions before foobar0.9 is released!
- added: bypass option
- added: foo_delay has been merged into this project
- changed: profiles page design
- fixed: crash on 2->1 mix
- fixed: crash on windows shutdown
http://skipyrich.siteburg.com/store/foo_channel_mixer.zip
Warning: To safe migrate from older versions please store your profiles to file then install the newer version of plugin and then import profiles from file.
PS. Will no more versions before foobar0.9 is released!
I get this error with the new version:
I've got both msvcr71.dll and msvcp71.dll in my foobar2000 directory. Does your plugin need any additional libraries? There were no errors with previous (0.8alpha) version.
QUOTE("foobar2000")
ERROR (CORE) : Failed to load DLL: foo_channel_mixer.dll, reason: Unable to load DLL.
I've got both msvcr71.dll and msvcp71.dll in my foobar2000 directory. Does your plugin need any additional libraries? There were no errors with previous (0.8alpha) version.
same probleme here
thanks for this new release
thanks for this new release
O-ops... Too many optimizations... Sorry.
Please download foo_channel_mixer.zip again.
Please download foo_channel_mixer.zip again.
All is great, thanks
mirror updated.
Version: 0.9.1 alpha
- added: channels selection
- fixed: broken output when multiple DSP chains are active
- fixed: reset "modified" flag after switching profile from menu
http://skipyrich.siteburg.com/store/foo_channel_mixer.zip
Bugfix release...
- added: channels selection
- fixed: broken output when multiple DSP chains are active
- fixed: reset "modified" flag after switching profile from menu
http://skipyrich.siteburg.com/store/foo_channel_mixer.zip
Bugfix release...
QUOTE
PS. Will no more versions before foobar0.9 is released!
QUOTE(skipyrich @ Sep 25 2005, 07:54 AM)
QUOTE
PS. Will no more versions before foobar0.9 is released!
It's fine.
Well, who knows when v0.9 goes final? Few more months? probably. I still stick with v0.83!
Thanks.
QUOTE(skipyrich @ Sep 25 2005, 01:54 AM)
Bugfix release...
Thanks for the bugfix (though I'd noticed no problems)
Hi, I just installed this plugin and I think it will do what I want; play a stereo encoded mp3 through my 5.1 speaker setup?
However, I can only hear it on my 2 front speakers - not my rear ones or sub woofer.
I CAN hear my surround speakers working in other applications (games etc) and I have changed my speaker config in windows sound control panel to 5.1 and I have also changed my output in ChannelMixer to directsound 2.
Of course I have enabled in DSP Manager and made it the only active DSP i have also activated 6 speakers and mode to copy...anything else I should be doing?
would REALLY love this to work for me.
However, I can only hear it on my 2 front speakers - not my rear ones or sub woofer.
I CAN hear my surround speakers working in other applications (games etc) and I have changed my speaker config in windows sound control panel to 5.1 and I have also changed my output in ChannelMixer to directsound 2.
Of course I have enabled in DSP Manager and made it the only active DSP i have also activated 6 speakers and mode to copy...anything else I should be doing?
would REALLY love this to work for me.
Try to import/use default presets from default.xml. If its not work for you check DSPs that placed after Channel Mixer.
Well, I installed this and I'm pleased
I have 5.1 speakers and playing a stereo source through just two of them does not sound good.
One problem I've got is that nothing is being sent to the subwoofer - fixed that by loading the default profiles and selecting 6 channel.
All in all I'm over the moon
Foobar just keeps impressing me!
Thanks!
I have 5.1 speakers and playing a stereo source through just two of them does not sound good.
One problem I've got is that nothing is being sent to the subwoofer - fixed that by loading the default profiles and selecting 6 channel.
All in all I'm over the moon
Foobar just keeps impressing me!
Thanks!
QUOTE(skipyrich @ Nov 23 2005, 09:40 AM)
Try to import/use default presets from default.xml. If its not work for you check DSPs that placed after Channel Mixer.
I imported and tried ALL the presets from default.xml and Channel Mixer is the only DSP in the DSP Manager... I also tried to put Advanced Limiter after Channel Mixer in the DSP Manager and nothing still... any other ideas?
I know that I do have 5.1 I just tested all speakers playing a game and all works sweet ..
- Review console output while playing song, it must look like:
INFO (CORE) : opening file for playback :
INFO (CORE) : location: "file://H:\Music\AC_DC\The Razors Edge (1990)\05 Mistress For Christmas.mpc" (0)
INFO (foo_out_dsound_ex2) : Created stream: 48000Hz 16bps 6ch
- Use visualisation "Simple Spectrum" with "All channels" setting enabled to view which channels are working. Channels are placed in the following order: Left, Right, Center, Sub, Rear Left, Rear Right.
- Use Diskwriter with "Use DSP" option enabled to save 6-channel wave file then review it in sound editor.
INFO (CORE) : opening file for playback :
INFO (CORE) : location: "file://H:\Music\AC_DC\The Razors Edge (1990)\05 Mistress For Christmas.mpc" (0)
INFO (foo_out_dsound_ex2) : Created stream: 48000Hz 16bps 6ch
- Use visualisation "Simple Spectrum" with "All channels" setting enabled to view which channels are working. Channels are placed in the following order: Left, Right, Center, Sub, Rear Left, Rear Right.
- Use Diskwriter with "Use DSP" option enabled to save 6-channel wave file then review it in sound editor.
QUOTE(skipyrich @ Nov 27 2005, 07:16 AM)
- Review console output while playing song, it must look like:
INFO (CORE) : opening file for playback :
INFO (CORE) : location: "file://H:\Music\AC_DC\The Razors Edge (1990)\05 Mistress For Christmas.mpc" (0)
INFO (foo_out_dsound_ex2) : Created stream: 48000Hz 16bps 6ch
- Use visualisation "Simple Spectrum" with "All channels" setting enabled to view which channels are working. Channels are placed in the following order: Left, Right, Center, Sub, Rear Left, Rear Right.
- Use Diskwriter with "Use DSP" option enabled to save 6-channel wave file then review it in sound editor.
INFO (CORE) : opening file for playback :
INFO (CORE) : location: "file://H:\Music\AC_DC\The Razors Edge (1990)\05 Mistress For Christmas.mpc" (0)
INFO (foo_out_dsound_ex2) : Created stream: 48000Hz 16bps 6ch
- Use visualisation "Simple Spectrum" with "All channels" setting enabled to view which channels are working. Channels are placed in the following order: Left, Right, Center, Sub, Rear Left, Rear Right.
- Use Diskwriter with "Use DSP" option enabled to save 6-channel wave file then review it in sound editor.
INFO (CORE) : startup time: 109 ms
INFO (CORE) : opening file for playback :
INFO (CORE) : location: "file://C:\~Music~\Bright_Eyes-Motion_Sickness\01-bright_eyes-at_the_bottom_of_everything.mp3" (0)
INFO (foo_out_dsound_ex) : Created stream: 44100Hz 16bps 6ch
- how do I change my visualisations to simple spectrum ?
QUOTE(jaslr @ Nov 28 2005, 03:07 AM)
- how do I change my visualisations to simple spectrum ?
http://foosion.foobar2000.org/#simple_spectrum
QUOTE(skipyrich @ Nov 28 2005, 02:09 AM)
QUOTE(jaslr @ Nov 28 2005, 03:07 AM)
- how do I change my visualisations to simple spectrum ?
http://foosion.foobar2000.org/#simple_spectrum
thanks tried that and I get action in every channel just my speakers do not work.
Not to worry, I'll find another media player that may work for me...could be unique to my setup.
A question, would it be possible to upmix 5chn data to 6chn? The missing channel is the subwoofer so it could be linked to the "send lfe in multichannel input from..." option.
I'm asking this because Kernel Streaming craps up with 5 channel music on my soundcard and adding a empty LFE channel would be lengthy and would really enlarge the file size.
I'm asking this because Kernel Streaming craps up with 5 channel music on my soundcard and adding a empty LFE channel would be lengthy and would really enlarge the file size.
QUOTE(Borisz @ Nov 30 2005, 12:04 AM)
A question, would it be possible to upmix 5chn data to 6chn? The missing channel is the subwoofer so it could be linked to the "send lfe in multichannel input from..." option.
Is that data is really 5-channel? Can you email me a sample (~5 seconds length) to skipyrich at mail dot ru?
100% sure its 5 channel only. It's extracted from a DVD-Audio disc (Frank Zappas QuAUDIOphiliac). Intervideo, DVDA Explorer, Foobar, Wavpack, all see it as 5 channel and the bitrate/filesize matches too.
I don't have any editing tools to make a short sample on my computer (that can process 5chn 24bit 96khz input anyway. And no, its not the bitrate/sampling freq thats making my card freak out, same quality files with 6 channels play fine).
edit: bah, I just cancelled the extraction after 5 seconds. Same thing. wavpacking and uploading now...
edit2: http://evilboris.sonic-cult.net/!trash/track-438cc419.wv
edit: bah, I just cancelled the extraction after 5 seconds. Same thing. wavpacking and uploading now...
edit2: http://evilboris.sonic-cult.net/!trash/track-438cc419.wv
QUOTE(Borisz @ Nov 30 2005, 12:59 AM)
Thank you for the sample. I'll work on it...
Version: 0.9.2 alpha
added: 5-channel input/output
added: Settings menu item
changed: subwoofer downmix algorithm
http://skipyrich.siteburg.com/store/foo_channel_mixer.zip
added: 5-channel input/output
added: Settings menu item
changed: subwoofer downmix algorithm
http://skipyrich.siteburg.com/store/foo_channel_mixer.zip
Thank you very much, it works perfectly now.
A question: does Channel Mixer generate a LFE channel for the above 5chn format, when the subwoofer -> send to from all channels option is picked? I didn't found any difference between that and a disabled subwoofer at all.
QUOTE(Borisz @ Dec 3 2005, 12:52 AM)
A question: does Channel Mixer generate a LFE channel for the above 5chn format, when the subwoofer -> send to from all channels option is picked? I didn't found any difference between that and a disabled subwoofer at all.
Option "Send to subwoofer from 5.1..." does nothing on 5-channel input.
In 6-channels output mode the subwoofer and the satellites should get the following:
CODE
---------------------------------------------------------
│ Use │ Bass redirection │ Freq range │
│ subwoofer │ │------------------------│
│ │ │ Subwoofer │ Satellites │
│-----------+------------------+-----------+------------│
│ N │ Disabled │ None │ Full │
│ Y │ Disabled │ Full │ Full │
│ Y │ Full │ Low │ High │
│ Y │ Leave sub... │ Full │ High │
│ Y │ Leave sat... │ Low │ Full │
---------------------------------------------------------
Where Full freq range mean no filtering, Low - lowpass filter, High - highpass filter.
I test 5->6 mode with your sample, all seems OK...
hi,
i just found this plugin and it's brilliant! exactly what i needed.
i have one question though. i'm using 6 channel output. when playing 5.1 tracks (dts or dvd-audio), am i correct that the sound isn't touched at all then? i have "send to sub from 5.1: sub channel" and "bass redirect: full" enabled. do they even matter for input that matches the selected output (5.1 -> 6 channels)?
thanks
i just found this plugin and it's brilliant! exactly what i needed.
i have one question though. i'm using 6 channel output. when playing 5.1 tracks (dts or dvd-audio), am i correct that the sound isn't touched at all then? i have "send to sub from 5.1: sub channel" and "bass redirect: full" enabled. do they even matter for input that matches the selected output (5.1 -> 6 channels)?
thanks
QUOTE(TCM @ Dec 20 2005, 09:23 PM)
i have one question though. i'm using 6 channel output. when playing 5.1 tracks (dts or dvd-audio), am i correct that the sound isn't touched at all then? i have "send to sub from 5.1: sub channel" and "bass redirect: full" enabled. do they even matter for input that matches the selected output (5.1 -> 6 channels)?
If you enable bass redirection, then it will work. If you want to leave sub and satellites untouched you should disable bass redirection at all.
ok, i think i got it, thanks.
another question: playing the sample from this thread http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=9772 doesn't produce any artifacts on my audiotrak prodigy 7.1lt if i disable all dsps. if i enable channel mixer, i get this weird sound only in the rear speakers. does this hint to a problem with your plugin or is it a conceptual phenomenon which i just have to live with?
thanks
edit: the problem goes away if i additionally enable the advanced limiter.
another question: playing the sample from this thread http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=9772 doesn't produce any artifacts on my audiotrak prodigy 7.1lt if i disable all dsps. if i enable channel mixer, i get this weird sound only in the rear speakers. does this hint to a problem with your plugin or is it a conceptual phenomenon which i just have to live with?
thanks
edit: the problem goes away if i additionally enable the advanced limiter.
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