Is there a way to play m4a audio files with Windows Media Player 6.4,
without using 3ivx?

You would have to find another mp4 splitter to do that. You could get a codec pack like Satsuki and just install the parts (like its mp4 splitter) you need. Ive used this codec pack before, it isnt as bad as others are.

Hi, Ollie. IIRC that codec pack still contains the 3ivx mp4 splitter albeit none of the other 3ivx filters. Not sure if this is what mp4junkie was looking for. Anyhow, the Nero mp4 splitter should also work. Although you have to install a lot of other things in the process.
EDIT: Of course use CoreAAC to decode the audio. It is available on rarewares IIRC.

Could I just do a regsvr32 neromp4.dll?

Thanks for the info! I will try coreaac

3ivx was very slow for me on a p200. I want to burn some cd's for my brothers
computer, but all my ripped music is in mp4 and
he doesn't use anything but wmp. I tried to get him to use winamp.
Oh well. Then again, maybe foobar2000 he might like more
because it is readable at 600x800, and looks like a normal windows program.

Sure, I don't see why not, if you can just get the dll out of the package or from somewhere else.
EDIT: I should say that your problem with 3ivx being too slow is likely due to the audio decoder they use. If you use CoreAAC and the 3ivx mp4 splitter it will likely be much faster.

I've already got Nero, also will any mpeg4 splitter work with coreaac?b

Also, which file is the Nero MP4 source filter?

I've got 6.3.0.3.


Volume in drive D is XXXXXXXXXXXX
Volume Serial Number is XXXXXXXXXX

Directory of D:\Program Files\Common Files\Ahead

. <DIR> 08-08-04 4:55p .
.. <DIR> 08-08-04 4:55p ..
AUDIOP~1 <DIR> 08-08-04 4:55p AudioPlugins
LIB <DIR> 08-08-04 4:55p Lib
DSFILTER <DIR> 08-08-04 4:55p DSFilter
TEXT TXT 0 12-14-04 6:52p text.txt
1 file(s) 0 bytes

Directory of D:\Program Files\Common Files\Ahead\AudioPlugins

. <DIR> 08-08-04 4:55p .
.. <DIR> 08-08-04 4:55p ..
AIFF DLL 200,704 12-16-03 7:18p Aiff.dll
DEFCON~1 DLL 172,032 12-16-03 7:18p DefConvertor.dll
MP3PRO DLL 655,360 12-16-03 7:18p mp3PRO.dll
MP3PRO~1 DLL 69,632 12-16-03 7:18p mp3PRO_dmo.dll
MP3PRO~2 DLL 61,440 12-16-03 7:18p mp3PRO_hlp.dll
MSA DLL 217,088 12-16-03 7:18p msa.dll
VQF DLL 204,800 12-16-03 7:18p Vqf.dll
VQFDEC~1 DLL 667,648 12-16-03 7:18p VqfDecLib.dll
VQFENC~1 DLL 827,392 12-16-03 7:18p VqfEncLib.dll
VQFENC~2 DLL 221,184 12-16-03 7:18p VqfEncLib1.dll
TWINVQ2 CDB 336,192 12-16-03 7:18p TWINVQ2.CDB
WAV DLL 212,992 12-16-03 7:18p wav.dll
AAC DLL 933,888 01-13-04 5:49p Aac.dll
AACENC32 DLL 929,792 12-16-03 12:06p aacenc32.dll
LAME_ENC DLL 208,896 01-08-04 12:38p lame_enc.dll
MP3PP DLL 294,912 01-14-04 2:30p mp3PP.dll
OGG DLL 1,310,720 01-14-04 2:30p ogg.dll
17 file(s) 7,524,672 bytes

Directory of D:\Program Files\Common Files\Ahead\DSFilter

. <DIR> 08-08-04 4:55p .
.. <DIR> 08-08-04 4:55p ..
NEFILE~1 AX 86,016 08-15-03 2:43p NeFileSrc.ax
NERENDER AX 69,632 12-16-03 7:18p NeRender.ax
NEAUDIO AX 520,192 01-13-04 6:38p NeAudio.ax
NEVIDEO AX 954,368 01-14-04 12:30p NeVideo.ax
NDPARSER AX 159,744 12-12-03 11:59a NDParser.ax
MP4FILE DLL 364,544 12-16-03 7:18p mp4file.dll
AACPLUS DLL 229,376 12-16-03 7:18p aacplus.dll
7 file(s) 2,383,872 bytes

Directory of D:\Program Files\Common Files\Ahead\Lib

. <DIR> 08-08-04 4:55p .
.. <DIR> 08-08-04 4:55p ..
DRIVEL~1 DLL 139,264 04-05-04 12:32p DriveLocker.dll
NEROCBUI DLL 1,040,384 12-16-03 7:18p NeroCBUI.dll
APREG DLL 73,728 01-08-04 3:34p apreg.dll
ADVRCNTR DLL 356,352 01-14-04 3:59p AdvrCntr.dll
NEROIPP DLL 942,080 11-29-03 10:36p NeroIPP.dll
5 file(s) 2,551,808 bytes

Total files listed:
30 file(s) 12,460,352 bytes
11 dir(s) 828,121,088 bytes free

Ah ok Bonzi, thanks for the info. I dont use mp4 myself so i didnt realise it used 3ivx.

I never got anything nero working. I installed CoreAAC, then installed 3ivx, uninstalled the 3ivx audio
decoder with the radlight filter manager, and everything works quick and responsive.
I really like this CoreAAC filter, it actually shows the current bitrate!

I also found a mp4 splitter that isn't commercial:
moonlight MP4 Demuxer
www.elecard.com/download/


Also I noticed every a song is played netstat shows this:
Active Connections

Proto Local Address Foreign Address State
TCP billgate:1426 pillow.3ivx.com:80 ESTABLISHED
TCP billgate:1431 pillow.3ivx.com:80 ESTABLISHED
TCP billgate:8080 www.altnet.com:1430 ESTABLISHED
TCP billgate:1430 www.altnet.com:8080 ESTABLISHED

You may want to add these to your hosts file.


That Moonlight filter can't skip ahead in a song.

CoreAAC is great, but if your using Windows 98 like me, you generally might want to keep the amount of excess filters to a minium to keep at least some stability. I suggest looking into a recent 'alpha' of ffdshow from sourceforge. It includes some audio filters, such as AAC, vorbis and AC3. Very handy for us who are forced to use Win98.

Just a tip with ffdshow if you decide to install it, if you arent using a 5.1 bit stereo and plan to use ffdshow as your AC3 filter, set the 'Mixer' to 2/0 or whatever you want and turn it on. Also deselect everything in the 'Input/Output' baring the 16bit options.

Those outgoings are weird, i didnt think 3ivx splitter was like that. Might be a good thing to ask Bond in the containers forum, im sure he'll have the proper answer.

I've found that the elecard mp4 demultiplexer can skip ahead.
To get it to work with the .m4a extension I copied the mediatype from
.mp4:
Save this as a .reg file:

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.m4a]
"Source Filter"="{E206E4DE-A7EE-4A62-B3E9-4FBC8FE84C73}"
"Media Type"="{813BACB7-18A7-4068-AABD-8F8CD57011BC}"

CoreAAC and elecard- works great for mpeg4 audio.

if you're still havin trouble, i suggest download RealONe Player, it can play m4a's and m4p's