Hello, I'm using iTunes LAME on the Mac, and was wondering if the settings I am using are appropriate or incorrect. At first I was using:
-v -V0 -q0 --vbr-new -b112 -ms
but then I switched to:
-v -V0 -q0 --vbr-new -b112
after reading that LAME may perform better having the ability to do joint-stereo if needed.
Also, at these settings, is --vbr-new going to sound much different than --vbr-old ?
Thanks,
meeble
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For the best VBR quality, just use
-V0
or
-V0 --vbr-new
without any additional switches. These are very likely to degrade the quality. By all means, leave out -q0. It slows down the encoding process dramatically and is considered to be of worse quality than the default setting.
I'd be surprised if anyone could hear a systematic difference between vbr old or new at this quality level, so go for vbr new if you need the speed.
By the way, have you tried
-V2
aka --preset standard? Averages around 190 kbps and is considered to be transparent for almost all music. -V0 will bloat your bitrate a lot with at best minimal gains in quality. Just try in a blind listening test if you can hear a difference between the two.
Greetings, sTisTi
-V0
or
-V0 --vbr-new
without any additional switches. These are very likely to degrade the quality. By all means, leave out -q0. It slows down the encoding process dramatically and is considered to be of worse quality than the default setting.
I'd be surprised if anyone could hear a systematic difference between vbr old or new at this quality level, so go for vbr new if you need the speed.
By the way, have you tried
-V2
aka --preset standard? Averages around 190 kbps and is considered to be transparent for almost all music. -V0 will bloat your bitrate a lot with at best minimal gains in quality. Just try in a blind listening test if you can hear a difference between the two.
Greetings, sTisTi
QUOTE (meeble @ Jan 13 2005, 01:40 AM)
after reading that LAME may perform better having the ability to do joint-stereo if needed.
Joint Stereo is always better and therefore used in the presets. If I was you I'd just use --preset standard or -V2 as sTisTi has already suggested. There's no need to add any extra switches. Really!!!!
QUOTE (sTisTi @ Jan 13 2005, 07:40 AM)
For the best VBR quality, just use
-V0
or
-V0 --vbr-new
without any additional switches.
-V0
or
-V0 --vbr-new
without any additional switches.
Thanks for the info - and yes, I can hear differences between 320 VBR and 192 VBR on some pieces. I am a audio engineer and producer, so I have honed my critical listening skills somewhat.
what about "-b112" to prevent the bitrate from going too low? I can't see how that would
hurt the sound in any way, but I could be missing something.
QUOTE
By all means, leave out -q0.
thanks, will do.
QUOTE (meeble @ Jan 13 2005, 08:57 AM)
I can hear differences between 320 VBR and 192 VBR on some pieces. I am a audio engineer and producer, so I have honed my critical listening skills somewhat.
what about "-b112" to prevent the bitrate from going too low?
what about "-b112" to prevent the bitrate from going too low?
-V0 target is 240, see chart here:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=18091
-V0 doesn't go below 128kbps. It adjusts the bitrate from between 128-320 as it encodes.
If you want 320 (CBR, not VBR, BTW. . . ), just use --preset insane.
QUOTE (meeble @ Jan 13 2005, 08:57 AM)
and yes, I can hear differences between 320 VBR and 192 VBR on some pieces.
there is no *VBR* 320kbps by the way (just CBR)...anyway, I'd be interested to know what 'pieces' you are talking about. Have you tried a blind test? You might be surprised
. Many people are sure that they can tell the difference but fail on a blind test...Try to ABX --preset insane (no other switches) against the original...
QUOTE (meeble @ Jan 13 2005, 08:57 AM)
. . . I can hear differences between 320 VBR and 192 VBR. . .
Perhaps he meant 320 CBR and 192 CBR?
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