I've got a question about CBR mode:

which parameters and which encoder is the best for CBR encoding?

I want to make bitrates about 160 kbps and 192 kbps.

I have to use CBR mode because ABR and VBR cause problems in my hardware MP3 Player (sometimes there are some strange "woggles"). CBR doesn't make buggy decoding in my Hardware MP3 player.

Do you know which is the best mode for a 160 or 192 kbps file? At the moment I use Lame 3.90.3 @ --alt-preset cbr 160 or --alt-preset cbr 192...

Are there better sound encoders or is there a better mode? Should I use DLL in CBR?

Thank you, memomai

what player is that?


good boy! Stick with the presets and you are fine.


you are already using the best setting for CBR. It doesn't matter if you use the DLL or exe...

It's a cheap Daewoo MP3 Player. Not very good quality, I know, but it's good enough for me for audio playback.

hmmmmmmmm.... isn't a new encoder better or is lame 3.90.3 the best one for that? Encoders like 3.96.1, I don't know...

but okay, if you say if it's the best setting, then it is the beste setting!

Thanks

I've compared lame 3.97a5 with 3.90.3 with abr 160 kbps, and appears to me as similar to 3.90.3 (with a slightly better notation on average for latest alpha):
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....ndpost&p=264991

There's also a big increase in encoding speed (> 100% on my computer) with 3.97a5..6 (I've not tested 3.97a7 so far), which makes it highly attractive.

Of course there's more encoding speed. But notice: I need a CBR option. I tested a lot with many lame versions.... Maybe 3.97 Alpha 7 is very good.....

But I won't make any ABX tests, I'll see when the new Lame Version is released whether choosing the new one or not.

We will see what the others say about the new --preset results in the new Lame Versions, maybe there's a better one available

greetings...

I've noted it Note that ABR and CBR are very, very close in quality. If one perform well, the other too.


Why not... But keep in mind than "final release" could be more buggy than alpha. For exemple: 3.96.1 (final AND corrected) is obviously worse than 3.97 alpha. In my opinion, and after more than 200 tests (e.g. 2000 ABX trials), lame 3.97 alpha is not a very risky choice.


That's the problem: most people are waiting for results rather than testing themselves. That's why HA.org is still recommending a jurassic encoder, and will continue that I suppose...

personally I always use LAME 3.96.1...so it's up to you. If there is a difference you'll probably not notice it...especially not on your crappy mp3 player
However, you could try if LAME 3.96.1 + VBR works on your mp3 player...there was a post where people had similar problems and LAME 3.96.1 resolved the issue...

I thought so too... Lame 3.96.1 doesn't solve my problem

but Lame 3.97 alpha (I have some alpha 3 files, made with AudioCrusher 1.4 [an easy CD ripper, you can download it at sysdesk) sounds quite good in CBR 192 kbps...



all right, but it also cause the problem in my player such as vbr. CBR is a very old technology, but it also could have a good sound.




I've never noticed that.... I always thought stable versions could bring less bugs...
I keep that in mind and I will use Alpha releases more often. I also think Lame 3.97 alpha sounds better than Version 3.96.1...

thank you

greetings, memomai

I won't make it a general maxim. Lame 3.97 alpha was tested by different members. It appeared to offer significant improvements over latest stable version (3.96.1). That's why I suggest you to try lame 3.97 alpha for personal encodings. But my recommandation is particular, and specific to 3.97 alpha only (in regard to 3.96.1 ABR/CBR quality), and should't be generalised to previous or future alpha release of lame or anything else.

Yes, I know. Previous Alpha Versions (such as 3.92 alpha) aren't good enough for me. I tested them, and there were a lot of crashes, sound bugs etc. But Lame 3.97 alpha, well, I haven't found a specific bug yet... We will see....

I would bring back the player into the store, because it's nonefunctional and crap. VBR is the same old technology as CBR.