I have recently discovered a new player . . . musikCube . . . an opensource player that is developing quickly in elegance and power. I encorage users and developers alike to check it out at its Sourceforge Homepage or download it. I have used foobar, winamp, QCD, and tried many others. For some reason this player, even at such an early stage of development, seems the best of what I'm looking for from all of the these players . . . simplicity, sound quality, and intuitiveness. It reminds me of Gabest's Media Player Classic simple and powerful interface. Here's what the author has to say . . .

musikCube is a frontend to a backend called musikCore by the same developer.

Release 0.92 Recently added a plugin framework and API - I hope some developers take some interest in this player.

Another similar opensource player, wxMusik, was developed by the developer of musikCube, before he decided to start over with his musikCore backend, and is now developed by Gunnar Roth - is also worth checking out, however it does not seam quite as elegant as musikCube

Please let me, and the programs' developers, know what you think.

I think it looks like an open-source, stripped-down version of iTunes... without the ability to play *.m4a/*.aac audio or display an album's artwork. No offense; you specifically asked.

- M.

I used it for a couple weeks, but then the nerd in me went back to foobar because there's so much customizing and tinkering you can do. musikCube does what it does, and nothing else. I suppose that's a positive feature for most people.

I did like that it was like iTunes-lite. I like iTunes, but it's such a resource hog there's no way I would use it. musikCube is definitely not a resource hog.

iTunes-lite indeed. /me likes

The iTunes-style gui and small footprint are definitely a plus for me. I've d/led it to check out the tagging functions. Hope the author would consider adding aac support.

Thanks. I'll give it a try.

hmm reminds me of a stripped down foobar/amaroK hybrid.

not bad, but i'll stick to foobar for reasons similar to zig (see above)

maybe if i used linux or something.

This is cool. Im converting from fb2k to this

However, I will run back to fb2k when it or if it ever has dockable panels like this

cool player

It looks like a nice enough player (no bloath and with the right focus), but there is nothing on the homepage that indicates that it has anything new and/or exciting to offer. Replaygain is essential, IMHO, and I didn't see it mentioned anywhere. Additional support for at least AAC and Musepack is also required, as far as I'm concerned.

So, no good reasons for me to switch from foobar2000, that I'm very comfortable with, and I don't intend to change player just for fun. Anyway, it's nice to see that there are other players being developed out there.

Edit: typo

Thanks for all of the replies.

My intent is not that MusikCube will immediately replace your current your current players. By no means can it currently compete with the format support and customizability of foobar and other players. I was hoping to spread some awareness (possibly encouraging development) of the player and start people imagining what it could become.

Maybe you should just have a look at this:
Much more feature rich, open-source, cross-platform multimedia-player
I like its fast Database!

-SQL database driven
-Plays mp3, ogg, APE ,MPC ,FLAC, mp2, wav, aiff and wma (win only) files.
-Net streaming support for icecast and shoutcast streams.
-Powerful batch and auto-tagging allows hassle free organization.
-Reads APE V1 & V2,id3v1,id3v2,flac ,ogg and wma format tags.
-Writes tags in APE V1 & V2,id3v1,id3v2,flac and ogg format.
-displays AlbumArt
...
and many more

WxMusik

MusicCube is like a clone to this although not as feature rich.

wxMusik has one thing going for it imo: MPC support!

And they both need ReplayGain.

And gapless MP3 playback.

I just cannot live without those

yes i would also like to see those features in this new player, but I still really like it as I seem to be able to find what I want so much more quicker now.#

please bring the following support to this player, and i will love it even more

replaygain - preferrable from tags and not from the database
more audio support - even though its suits my needs prefectly right now as all I have are mp3s and flac files . support for wavpack would be nice.
retractable panels with pins. similar to vs.net

thats about all i can think of right now!

I discovered the both players some weeks ago.

The relation between musikCube and wxMusik (quoted from the Open Discussion wxMusik pinboard):


At the moment wxMusik has more functional features than musikCube (which has the better GUI). But each of both players offers functions which the other one hasn't... damn

For more advanced operation I still use Foobar as far as I understand this IMO ultra complex piece of software but for daily music playback I prefer the fast and easy "Musik"-players.

In Windows, at least, it seems to be using the BASS library, and that library have a WavPack add-on/plug-in. Don't know if it's working or not, but maybe that means there's some possibility for support in musikCube?

When it comes down to it there are a few things that set musikCube apart from the other players, while at the same time making it a player/organizer worth using.

First there is the plugin api. That alone is a good enough reason to use musikCube. With Winamp’s recent transfer into AOL’s control musikCube now gives the community a chance to start over with the chance to develop plugins for their player/organizer with complete freedom. With the plugin api anything is possible. Users can make requests and a developer can take the request upon himself to fulfill it without the worry of having to wait for the creator to add the feature in.

Next there is the fact Casey, the creator of musikCube, originally created wxmusik. Why would he abandon the project and start over? I don’t know that answer, but it is clear he must have had a reason to start fresh.

One thing I noticed that makes musikCube very different from other players is its system of organization. musikCube has everything you need to find any song you want right there in front of the user. The user has the ability to add more views to find the song he/she is looking for, but wait why look through albums and lists when there is a search function a click a way that filters songs as you type? However you can also view songs by album, artist etc. in a completely customizable manner through the views, which are mobile I might add.

musikCube is open source and community oriented. You want to know what makes the program tick? Download the code and you can see for yourself what makes musikCube so great. Something that means a lot to me is Casey’s responsiveness to requests and in rare cases bugs that are found. Almost always he will bust out a new cvs for you to try to see everything is done how you requested or if the bug is fixed.

musikCube also has another advantage with its use of microsoft foundation classes. This gives musikCube more modularity and is more easily extended as a result. musikCube has the smallest memory foot print for its capabilities.

Another thing is how is musikCube like iTunes? I just don’t see it. All the other players look more like iTunes than musikCube does. Is anyone saying anything? No. Saying musikCube is a stripped down version of iTunes is like saying firefox is a stripped down version of internet explorer.

musikCube is different and for some reason people seem to be reacting violently to something that is new and improved. Just give musikCube a chance and with its rate of update that exceeds that of any other player the features you want changed or added may be there in a matter of weeks maybe days.

*EDIT* spaced out

i don't see this as an advantage, to the contrary ... i think wsWidgets or now Qt that is gonna be GPLd are better choices, so you can maintain OS independence ... look how many "please port fb2k to linux/mac" posts are ...

ah you'd make a good point if musikCube hadn't already been ported to linux

*NOTE* musikBox

Hey.. I'm the developer of musikCube, former developer of wxMusik. I'd like to clear a couple things up

1) I'm not trying to make a copy of foobar, and I'm not trying to make a copy of iTunes, although I have borrowed what I feel to be the best concepts of all the audio players I have ever tried. Of course "best" is subjective, but I am just trying to provide a clean, alternative system written from scratch that is free, open source, with no strings attached.

2) musikCube supports plugin to extend functionality, and soon will support input plugin supports to support more formats. DSP plugin support is also planned. wxMusik does this to some extent, but not to the degree of musikCube.

2) musikCube is NOT a complete product yet, but is progressing quicker than ever. If you are interested in the project, but it doesn't work for you yet, by all means make some feature requests on our forums, we stay as community oriented as possible.

3) re kwanbis: musikCore contains absolutely NO GUI code, and very little platform specific code. It should be easy to get up and running with linux and OSX. As a matter of fact, it already supports xine.

Please let me know if you have any additional questions or comments.

Casey

I use musikcube because it is so efficient. It takes up very little RAM and is very quick.

Plus other players are for biznatches...

is good to have it modular ... but ... and i'm just gessing ... isnt having to support diferent frameworks a waste of time? ... i still would try at least to use some sort of cross platform framework ... was wxwidgets so bad? i look at wxmusik and muskcube images and don't see sooo much of a diference ... also ... why you forked?

http://musik.berlios.de/images/screenshots...win32_shot1.jpg

http://musik.sourceforge.net/casey/musikcube_0.92-pre2.png

you know, i'm just affraid to repeat the problems with fb2k, where i'm now moving to linux, and can't take it with me

edit: just using it ... looks really, really, nice ...

it needs masstager's funcionallity .... that is a must to replace fb2k ... and the option on getting tags from the net ... alla the godfather ....

EDIT1: don't take it personal, but i feel more intwitive the way wsmusik handles the playlist ... it asked for dirs, i ponted it to my d:\music folder and c:\music folders, and i have all my music there ... with musikcube i haven't figured it out yet ... also, musikcube have problems displaying accented chars.

EDIT2: i like better musikcubes way of playing ... somehow wsmusik doesn't plays all that it is shown.

kwanbis, thanks for trying it out.



See http://musik.sourceforge.net/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=16 (towards the bottom)



File -> Synchronization. Regarding the accented characters: currently musikCube only supports non standard ascii characters with unicode (utf8) tags. In the near future (before next release) there will be functionality to display non-utf8 accented characters, the option to convert the tag from multibyte to unicode.



Thanks, musikCube has a much smoother interface than wxMusik. wxWidgets was fairly limited in that aspect.



musikCube has extremely powerful batch tag editing. I'm not sure what exactly you're missing. If you can tell me what you'd like to tag, I can probably tell you how to accomplish it.

Casey

[quote=_avatar,Feb 25 2005, 03:06 PM]
kwanbis, thanks for trying it out. [/quote]
a pleasure, and i must say i really like it so far ... as an "open source" dev, i know that the reward is that people use your product [/quote]

[quote=_avatar,Feb 25 2005, 03:06 PM]
[quote]don't take it personal, but i feel more intwitive the way wsmusik handles the playlist ... it asked for dirs, i ponted it to my d:\music folder and c:\music folders, and i have all my music there ... with musikcube i haven't figured it out yet ... also, musikcube have problems displaying accented chars.
[/quote]
File -> Synchronization.[/quote]
yes ... but the point is that is not intuitive ...

[quote=_avatar,Feb 25 2005, 03:06 PM]
Regarding the accented characters: currently musikCube only supports non standard ascii characters with unicode (utf8) tags. In the near future (before next release) there will be functionality to display non-utf8 accented characters, the option to convert the tag from multibyte to unicode.[/quote]
mmm ... i think i have normal chars ... like "si tú supieras" ... it is show as "Si tú supieras"

[quote=_avatar,Feb 25 2005, 03:06 PM]
[quote]i like better musikcubes way of playing ... somehow wsmusik doesn't plays all that it is shown.
[/quote]
Thanks, musikCube has a much smoother interface than wxMusik. wxWidgets was fairly limited in that aspect.[/quote]
what about QT? is going to be GPLd, and is very good ...

[quote=_avatar,Feb 25 2005, 03:06 PM]
[quote]it needs masstager's funcionallity .... that is a must to replace fb2k ... and the option on getting tags from the net ... alla the godfather ....
[/quote]
musikCube has extremely powerful batch tag editing. I'm not sure what exactly you're missing. If you can tell me what you'd like to tag, I can probably tell you how to accomplish it.[/quote]
fb2k tagz are really powerfull ... basically, i think, what i need is normalize tags (UP, DOWN, Title Case), taging/formating from filename, and from other tags. autotacknumber, and freedb access.

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?sho...l=documentation

also, from QT: Why would I want to move my application away from the Microsoft Foundation Classes (MFC)?
* To bring your application into the future, and stay current with the state of the art in GUIs. According to Microsoft (ref. MSDN Webcast), MFC is "becoming dated as an application framework", and moving forward, Microsoft is "not going to put in a lot of investments for adding new UI functionality into MFC".
* To let your application run on other platforms in addition to MS Windows. The rapidly growing adoption of Linux in particular means that you will want to be prepared for your users demanding that your application can be supported that platform.
* To increase productivity. Programmers generally agree that when compared to using a more modern toolkit, development with MFC is more complex, tedious, and error-prone. Also, while MFC covers only GUI functionality, productivity gains can be had by employing a more complete toolkit which avoids the developers having to resort to other, unrelated APIs for handling tasks like networking, multi-threading, database access, etc.

Just look at iTunes and try to visualize it without that metallic skin. With the database browser in the upper part, playlists (last played, most played, blah blah) on the left, some similar looking buttons at the bottom and a column based playlist. How can you not see the resemblance? IMHO, it's nothing wrong with looking similar to iTunes, and I guess Apple put some serious thought into the interface. Even though I don't like iTunes, I do like the main concept behind the layout. It also seems possible that the developer of musikCube felt the same way:

In addition, the thread starter said: "Please let me, and the programs' developers, know what you think.", and that's what people have done, namely given their opinions.

There is a lot of players out there, and seriously testing each one would be very time consuming. As I said in my first post, nothing on musikCube's homepage made me want to try it, and I saw no mention of anything I would consider a "killer feature". You say it is different, but I don't see anything that would suggest it is. It looks more like a straight forward, no bullshit player, than anything else. Words like "different" and "new and improved" just sounds like marketing to me, and makes me think the product can speak for itself.

The process of switching from one player to another, is very easy if all you do with it is open a few files and press play. But, I have personally used countless hours to customize foobar2000 to look, fell and work exactly the way I like it to. Giving it all up now, just to start from scratch with a player that, to me, lacks some essential features, would be a pretty strange thing to do.

Btw: I don't expect this to be the case, but I'll ask anyway:
I would like to try this player, just for fun, but is there any chance of this player doing something funny with my files, how they are organized, or to my system? I just hate to clean up, and usually don't install every piece of software I come across.

1. I agree with the QT thing...it will really be easy to port it to other platforms then but QT is only GPL is you're final product will remain GPL or something like that. that is why GNOME devs don't like it but its a very effective and efficient toolkit with minimal resource usage that is why even being more "interface heavy" KDE uses less ram than GNOME (No flames on the GNOME vs KDE thing please)

2. The browser on top is similar to itunes and I totally agree on that. But that browser was such an excellent idea by apple the it beats the tree based library structure of other players hands down. There is nothing wrong in using a great concept after all some one must've been the first to use the tree based structure also.

In my opinion a nice player which could really do well with a bit of polishing up. I think it has a great future.

EDIT: If the author decides to use QT please wait for Qt 4.0 as that is supposed to be better than the 3 versions

Some small features from wxMusik I like to see in musikCube:

- the big search bar (or at least a custumable search field); search stays in the library view
- Some context menu options from wxM like "Add to Now Playing" (not only voa Drag&Drop) or "Show in library this artist"
- more intuitive synchronization
- album art
- maybe translations
- the "high-end" features like replaygain, freedb, gapless would be nice, but i am not so audiophile

I'm sure the most things are already on the to do list.

PS: Party Player

Maybe others think differently, but for me musikCube is easy to use, efficient, quick, and one of the fastest developing projects I know of so I think i'll throw my lot in with musikCube.

musikCube does not change files on your computer unless you tell it to alter the tags. As for your killer feature. I believe the plugin api puts it a step ahead of most open source projects.

Ok, thanks. That was what I expected.

Some first impressions using musikCube v.0.92 (if anyone cares...)
Keep in mind that I have only tested it for a short while.
I haven't looked into any possible plugins, and if it's anything like foobar2000, that can be an essential part of it.

Positive:
-Good looking, lightweight interface, that has a nice feeling to it (hard to explain).
-Easy to use.

Missing:
-Replaygain support (simply can't live without it)
-Support for APEv2 tags.
-Formatting support for playlists using TAGZ. I miss the ability to increase readability, decrease information redundance and make it more personal.
-Better format support.

Problems:
-When resizing the area containing playback buttons and such, and making it too small, the buttons gets on top of the progress bar and "now playing" display. When moved to the middle of the screen, this only happens when resizing it from below.
-At first, it was hard to find the right spot to grab the area mentioned above, to move it around.

A nice player overall, but I'm very attached to my fb2k, and it will still be my player of choice. But, if anyone asks me to suggest a player, I'll mention musikCube.

Looks like we have a good discussion going here. upNorth, I appreciate you giving mC a test-drive. Your pros and cons will definitely help this player develop. I believe this is the key as it seems mC's developer has created a fairly powerful base from which things can be implemented, plugged-in, or changed.

What are others' thoughts from giving mC a good go round?

I’ve been using this for a day or so now so here's my input

Pros
Looks
Usability
Speed

Cons
No replay gain
Limited audio format support
Limited configurability
Does not remember last view - should remember the selected device or dynamic play list and the tracks which were in the play list. The same goes for the album view.

Bug
I have noticed that the sound sometimes stops when clicking through tracks. I know the track is playing but I can’t hear anything until I make a slight adjustment to the volume control?

Comments
When I say configurability I don’t mean adding colours to the play list, I mean being able to move everything around to suite your personnel preference. E.g. would be nice if I could move the bottom buttons to the top, left or right of the screen, and move the left side panel to any where I want, just like we can already move album and the equalizer panels around. It would be nice if I could resize the visualisation too! Or even move it around if it was also a dock able panel.

Personal opinion
I think fb2k went too over the top with configurability. I spend more time configuring fb2k and less time enjoying the music. I am after a player which lets me play find and play music quickly. This player seems to be with one for me so far. I think with just a few adjustments here and there this player will be amazing. Not that it’s not already amazing!!!

What about AAC support?

I have becomed hooked to this and it won't play it!

Oh and please, please TRUE, LAME-TAG based gapless MP3 playback.

This has to be made a core issue, IMHO, to raise awareness. This could help even the DAP market. It is kinda heartbreaking that the two "mainstream" codecs have to be worked around to playback gapless.

You can actually move them around, you just have to point at the "magic spot" and drag. To move the buttons, try pointing very near the bottom edge.

I also just managed to move the left sidebar to the right, but now I can't seem to get it back. "Reset interface" doesn't correct it either. But, I'm sure I'll get it back after a while Edit: just had to point near the edge of the window, just like for the buttons.

Thanks upNorth!

you simply have to click and hold on the left hand side of the panel you want to move

excellent!

oh you edited your post before I posted mine

Ooh. Me likey. Think I'll grab a copy of the plugin API later tonight and see how extensible it really is.

I love a modular design that gives me (nearly) complete control of the interface. If there were just a little more freedom in that regard (i.e.: if the playback controls, volume & progress sliders, vis, and 'now-playing' were separated into individual panels), I would be very happy.

The database management / access features are very agreeable to me. And I imagine the most important features, that pertain to playback quality, are on their way. So I will definitely be keeping an eye on the development of musikCube.

I wish the musikCube developer, and community, the best of luck and success! Even if it doesn't develop into the best option for me, it's nice to see quality OSS options available and thriving. Kudos!

I just wanted to put my two cents in and say thank you to the developer of MusikCube. It is a very nice player. Please remember to take all criticism constructively, and never forget the core aims and dedication that got you started. Also, thanks to the original poster for mentioning this upcoming and already quite competent program.

The two key features of a good music player, to me, are simplicity (which applies not only to ease of use for the end user, but also footprint upon the OS) and functionality.

As a newer audio player, one cannot complain about Musikcube's current functionality. The simplicity is there and the functionality is improving, which can only be expected to take time.

I will refrain from making any recommendations, since several have already been mentioned. The point of this post was to say good job and keep up the good work!

I switched to musikCube from foobar and am glad to see discussion of it here. More development behind it is a good thing!

I left winamp because it is being misran by AOL and has no real drive behind it anymore.

I left foobar for reasons that I don't want to go to much into here, but I'll just say this. I decided I no longer want to support a player that isn't fully opensource, so never again will it be forced into a stagnation (AOL) or ran by a single persons will (peter).

And I laugh at comments of how it MusikCube is less configurable then foobar - musikCube is actually open source. Want XYZ feature? Add it in - I am sure others want it too

I also would like to thank the developer of MusikCube. Hopefully developer will turn into developers!

Had a play. It looks very nice, I like the lightweight footprint and the interface is quite intuative. But it lacks two features that are showstoppers for me.

Replaygain and Gapless playback.

waouw I like this player a LOT ...

I am a 5 years of winamp (+album list plugin) user spending the last year looking toward foobar to know if I should use it as default or not (don't like its look & feel ... & mainly its basic freeware only license) ... I tryed swichwing several time but always get back to my good'old winamp, using foobar as a winamp extension, not really a core player remplacement...

in the end the not open source license has driven me away from foobar from start as I didn't wanted a player that could potentially follow the same mistake as winamp ... foobar is an increadibly good player ... but it's not for me simply ...

I think I have tryed pretty much every players on earth this last year seaching for a successor to winamp ... I tryed zinf, coolplayer, delpamph, quintessential player, core player, xmplay, vuplayer, wxmusik & many many others ... I was almost falling to the conclusion that it was time to switch to linux xmms/rythmbox for me (I haven't tryed amarok yet)

for the first time I think I MAY have found it ...
unlike foobar it's not a complicated player so it has a big potential for the mass end users
unlike winamp & foobar it's not proprietary so it has a big potential for core & plugin third party development

I just tortured my fresh musikCube for a couple of hours, so here is my feeling about it :

- BUG "start to tray with windows" don't work for me, whatever I do, it just don't save (WinXP SP2) I like winamp tray agent, I need it for musikCube

- I unchecked crossfading & ballon tip ... I didn't saw any tips but I heard the tip noise when double clicking on a song ... it was annoying as hell during the 5 first minutes ... so crossfade+tip noise at same time ... ugh ... I had the feeling my musikcube was destroying my musik first ;( ... this default isn't a very good idea ...

- plz use vorbis Q5 & flac C5 as default in the ripper ... the more the your experience with these codecs will grow the more you will find Q6 & C8 useless (small swaste of space for the first, big waste of time for the second when transcoding ... even if encoding is faster than ripping for ya, when you will transcode a lot of ape to flac you'll use C5 as you will soon be bored of waiting with C8) I don't care about flac C5 as it can be argueed but I care for vorbis Q5 as I know for sure Q5 is ten time more popular then Q6 even if all vorbis newbie using APS with lame starts using vorbis Q6 ... it's a newbie mistake plz don't feed them)

- plz display flac & vorbis vendor string in propriety ... plz separate & display vorbis nominal/average/max-min bitrate like winamp does
- plz add artwork JPG-PNG display support (I use PNG front 1417x1417px ~3mo) targetting "front" in image filename in the folder currently played

- plz add "find file on disk" like the winamp plug ...

- ability to drag down the middle bar between artist/album top & songs bottom

- plz go deep in this way: Itunes GUI but with separate tunable elements + Winamp Plugins + Free Software ... Free Software & modularity will bring you plugin coders ... with time plugins coders will code almost every missing foobar like features if the core soft worth it as a base ...

don't understimate plugins & skins ... skins may be completly useless ... in the end it's winamp modularity & highly tunable level (plugin+skins) that made its success ...
there must be a way to simply tune its graphical aspect ... following the core skin is nice ... but many newbie don't even know you can change all windows skins aspect by changing the default XP style ... even without skins it must be possible to change the colors & layout for real noobs ...

plz use in plugins even for core codecs something like incubevorbis.dll incubeflac.dll incubemp3.dll ... this system is very popular ...

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I don't care about dead shn/mpc support, I care about mp4/wavpack/monkey audio support
I don't care about replaygain, cue+single album rip support

(I don't trust in cue as playlist remplacement for lossless, I trust in splitted files
I don't trust in the usefullness of replaygain at all ... it's a mpc freak thing for me ...)

for me musikCube must be state of the art for Xiph codecs, specially Ogg/Flac ...

even if I think mp4/monkey support would be great for others in the end I don't care I will not use these codec anyway ... due to patents & non-OSI license ... monkey support is important for reading tags before flac transcoding ... not for playback ...

monkey/wavpack support would be nicer than mp4 support for me

people that care about musikcube over winamp/foobar care for license ...
the only thing musikcube brings is its license & a very good Xiph-tunes alternative ...

you want mp4, use itunes it's the original ... then go ask itunes dev for xiph support ... instead of asking musikCube to support mp4 ...
you want mpc/replaygain/cue support, use foobar it's the original/best ... then go ask foobar dev for GNU ... instead of asking musikCube for mpc/replaygain/cue support ...

but if you simply want a free winamp for your free codecs ... then maybe musikcube will do the job ... it's boring to see people asking features specific to a single player ...

mp4-proprietary soft users are funny ... they use patented or rare closed solutions ...
& then they cry for free software dev to support their bad choice, to correct their mistakes ... grow old you're responsible of your choices ...

"hey MrQM, musikCube, Audacity plz oh plz support mp4"... I am bored of hearing that ... plz don't support mp4 ... or ask mpeg/nero/apple money for it ... (ok, ok that's zealotry ... but there is some truth & logic in it ...)

just open your eyes, just test other audio players ... 90% of players around don't support mp4 (itunes) or replaygain/cue/masstagging/transcoding (foobar) ...

... if you are too lazy to use an external masstagger/transcoder ... too simple-minded to use free codecs ... it's not musikCube's dev fault ... there is several good external option to do these jobs ...

I don't say musikCube shouldn't do all this ... the more an audio player got features the better it is ... but exotic/patented/useless features shouldn't be priority ...

musikCube's job is to freely playback my free musik & it does it well for a newcomer ...

depending on its future improvements I think I will switch to musikCube over winamp at some point in its dev ... congratulations ...

I recall several months ago I told the idea here that Xiph was afterall a part of Gnome & should team with Rythmbox & port "this player with its embeded codecs" into windows to fight mp4/itunes ... some users here told me it was stupid ... maybe it was not, cauz with musikCube/musikBox ... that's almost what you created .... the xIphTunes ... thks

it was just my first impressions brainstorming ... more feedback to come as bug/missing features arise ... sorry if it was a bit messy & sometimes anti-patents pro-gnu ...