I thought I'd give Mr QuestionMan a go the other day, and after randomly clicking one of my album folders I noticed it was encoded in LAME EOS. A quick Google didn't return anything helpful, so I'm wondering -- just what exactly is this rogue verison of LAME?

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A LAME version tweaked by an mp3 scene ripping group called EOS (Economy Of Sound).

You pirate.

Busted!

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I hope they only changed the version string

damn it, I was gonna post that

I wonder what kind of tweaks they actually did to the encoder.



Geez? don't people listen to anything else other than commercial music these day's?

EOS (Economy Of Sound) was / is an internal mp3 release group which specialized in EAC -aps rips ONLY

they hacked the latest suggested lame.exe with their tag thats all

hey rjamorim how did you know about it...

I didn't. emtee did, very smart guy. :B

Almost certainly. I really doubt these guys have the know-how to change any other thing than the version string. They have troubles with morgothtools, let alone LAME itself... This is common in some release groups, though. There are at least 3 or 4 groups who change the original encoders.

Erm... told me a friend of mine

Like Yoda, you speak.

I believe the version string is "LAME EOS" because they don't want other groups stealing their rips or otherwise taking credit for their rips. I'm not sure, I don't deal with "the scene".

It totally screws up oidua's LAME profile detection (since it looks for >3.90) yet strangely enough not the modified foo_input_std, but if it bothers you you can use a hex-editor to change " EOS" to "3.90". They are standard --aps rips, they don't do any tweaking to LAME itself.

I've seen this myself. Lame.DPS^, Lame KSi©

Here is the info from encspot for the Lame DPS^ encoder:
Bitrates:
----------------------------------------------------
32 0.0%
128 0.3%
160 | 1.4%
192 |||||| 7.0%
224 ||||||||||||||||| 18.0%
256 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 31.3%
320 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 42.1%
----------------------------------------------------

Type : mpeg 1 layer III
Bitrate : 270
Mode : joint stereo
Frequency : 44100 Hz
Frames : 19650
ID3v2 Size : 0
First Frame Pos : 0
Length : 00:08:33
Max. Reservoir : 511
Av. Reservoir : 98
Emphasis : none
Scalefac : 4.1%
Bad Last Frame : no
Encoder : Lame DPS^
Lame Header : No

and the other one:

Bitrates:
----------------------------------------------------
192 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 100.0%
----------------------------------------------------

Type : mpeg 1 layer III
Bitrate : 192
Mode : stereo
Frequency : 44100 Hz
Frames : 5871
ID3v2 Size : 0
First Frame Pos : 498
Length : 00:02:33
Max. Reservoir : 511
Av. Reservoir : 362
Emphasis : none
Scalefac : 6.7%
Bad Last Frame : no
Encoder : Lame KSi©
Lame Header : No

Maybe I'll make one called Lame.31337±rawks-3:^)

But seriously, it is nice to know what version of the encoder is actually used.
Maybe if you remove the lame tag somehow, it can guess? Is there any tool that can do that?

Encspot is really neat, I've found encoders I've never heard of, like Shine, QDesign, Plugger, m3e, etc.... I had no idea there was even a 'Xing (Very Old)' encoder. Yecchh. Those go in the trash.

I am going to copy all my mp3's to one dir and then sort them by encoder, the results should be interesting.

Interesting. I've never known release groups to do that.

Thanks.

KSi (Kludge Sound Inc.) , AFAIK , used to do it; not sure if they do anymore.

... but like emtee said, i heard it from a friend who heard it from his friend, and so on and so forth

EDIT- i just saw schonenberg's post above on KSi , but I was re-iterating (i suppose).