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CyberTootie
AllofMP3.com allows downloading of its content losslessly. Is the content you want to download this way actual CD quality? Are there pops and/or clicks in the track or is it lossy-sourced? This thread is to list the albums that are available for lossless download which are "compromised."

Listing format: Artist - Album (Track #s if not whole album)

Updated: 3/29/05


Lossily sourced:
Evanescence - Origin

Pops and/or clicks:
None

Suspected albums:
None


If you find any lossless downloads that have any imperfections, please list them here and I will update this post for easy reading. Please specify if the track is definitely compromised or if you think or suspect the track is compromised.
Busemann
A similar thread should really be set up for scene releases as well rolleyes.gif
Leo 69
Be sure to report to Allofmp3's support if you notice clicks or such. They are sure
to fix it quickly as it is said on their site.
OneHeadlight
I have some lossless tracks of Evanescence's Origin from allofmp3. As far as I can hear, it sounds like the original source and I don't hear any clicks or pops. I also ran auCDtect on the song, and it reported that "The track looks like CDDA with 100% probability."
CyberTootie
QUOTE(Leo 69 @ Mar 29 2005, 03:34 PM)
Be sure to report to Allofmp3's support if you notice clicks or such. They are sure
to fix it quickly as it said on their site.

Really? Hmm does that mean I can get a refund for downloading Origin? Not like it matters, though; I'm getting more credit than I can spend by uploading to them...
Leo 69
Yeezz, you can get the refund, but in a very rare case smile.gif Check this out, it's from their website :

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Naturally, mistakes are possible in every kind of work. Because we are unable to personally check each track in our database, our users may end up with poor quality tracks sometimes (according to our statistics, this occurs less than 0.03% of he time). If this happens to you, please contact our technical support staff with the subject heading entitled "Music Archive Errors." After we check the issue and validate your appeal, we will return the appropriate balance to your account. We will also try to do everything within our power to replace the low-quality track.

You must also take into account that some of the audio has been recorded from vinyl and may have distinct characteristics that cannot be prevented. In this case, we are unable to provide you with help.
CyberTootie
QUOTE(OneHeadlight @ Mar 29 2005, 04:05 PM)
I have some lossless tracks of Evanescence's Origin from allofmp3. As far as I can hear, it sounds like the original source and I don't hear any clicks or pops. I also ran auCDtect on the song, and it reported that "The track looks like CDDA with 100% probability."


How did I miss this post? Well anyways,


Here lied a bunch of spectrum analyzer screenshots proving "Lies" and "Where Will You Go" are in fact lossy.

So, uh, you still believe that program?
unfortunateson
pops and clicks in tracks can be directly from bad mastering, too. I wonder if there is a site where people can inquire about odd pops and clicks on their cds to see if its a bad pressing or if the problems come up on everyones pressings of a certain album. I know i hear pops and clicks on some albums even though they are brand new. crying.gif
dreamliner77
QUOTE(CyberTootie @ Mar 29 2005, 11:53 PM)

So, uh, you still believe that program?
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Is it possible the the actually cd mastering has a lowpass set on it? With Evanescence's highly produced (or mangled) releases I'd say it's possible.
CyberTootie
QUOTE(unfortunateson @ Mar 30 2005, 12:18 AM)
pops and clicks in tracks can be directly from bad mastering, too.


I believe this is done intentionally, especially for soundtracks and compilations. There is no technical excuse for pops & clicks on CDs.

QUOTE(dreamliner77 @ Mar 30 2005, 12:42 AM)
Is it possible the the actually cd mastering has a lowpass set on it?


Watching the spectrum; doubtful.

EDIT: See for yourself. (2.5 MB)
grug
With the majority of allofmp3's content (anything marked OE) being sourced from 384kbps MP3s I don't trust that their more expensive, "lossless" source (OE-EX) is any better.

And since anyone can upload and provide content (for allofmp3 credit), theres nothing to stop anyone upping a transcoded MP3->FLAC rip and claiming it was the original source CD either.
Acid Orange Juice
QUOTE(unfortunateson @ Mar 29 2005, 11:18 PM)
pops and clicks in tracks can be directly from bad mastering, too.
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Yes, I have a few CDs with this problem mad.gif . when I put these songs in an audio editor is very easy to see incredible square waves in specific parts of the songs mad.gif mad.gif
cartman
QUOTE(Busemann @ Mar 30 2005, 12:17 AM)
A similar thread should really be set up for scene releases as well  rolleyes.gif
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mad.gif
schonenberg
QUOTE(unfortunateson @ Mar 29 2005, 11:18 PM)
pops and clicks in tracks can be directly from bad mastering, too.  I wonder if there is a site where people can inquire about odd pops and clicks on their cds to see if its a bad pressing or if the problems come up on everyones pressings of a certain album.  I know i hear pops and clicks on some albums even though they are brand new.  crying.gif
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A few songs have album pops as a sound effect. A Blink 182 song that
I can't remember comes to mind.
Insolent
QUOTE(grug @ Mar 30 2005, 04:48 PM)
With the majority of allofmp3's content (anything marked OE) being sourced from 384kbps MP3s I don't trust that their more expensive, "lossless" source (OE-EX) is any better.

And since anyone can upload and provide content (for allofmp3 credit), theres nothing to stop anyone upping a transcoded MP3->FLAC rip and claiming it was the original source CD either.
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I thought the highest possible bitrate for an MP3 was 320kbps though? blink.gif
Digga
QUOTE(Insolent @ Mar 30 2005, 09:19 AM)
QUOTE(grug @ Mar 30 2005, 04:48 PM)
With the majority of allofmp3's content (anything marked OE) being sourced from 384kbps MP3s I don't trust that their more expensive, "lossless" source (OE-EX) is any better.<sbip>
I thought the highest possible bitrate for an MP3 was 320kbps though? blink.gif
everything above 320 is called freeformat. the highest possible normal bitrate is indeed 320.
NeoRenegade
Isn't allofmp3.com illegal?
Digga
QUOTE(NeoRenegade @ Mar 30 2005, 11:24 AM)
Isn't allofmp3.com illegal?
it is considered to be not illegal under current laws (or better law holes) in Russia.
Jojo
QUOTE(CyberTootie @ Mar 29 2005, 10:35 PM)
QUOTE(unfortunateson @ Mar 30 2005, 12:18 AM)
pops and clicks in tracks can be directly from bad mastering, too.


I believe this is done intentionally, especially for soundtracks and compilations. There is no technical excuse for pops & clicks on CDs.

QUOTE(dreamliner77 @ Mar 30 2005, 12:42 AM)
Is it possible the the actually cd mastering has a lowpass set on it?


Watching the spectrum; doubtful.

EDIT: See for yourself. (2.5 MB)
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yep, the sample you provided is definitely lossly...I can't believe that auCDtect reports it as 100% lossless crying.gif
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