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kasper

Apr 5 2005, 15:11

I rip my CDs with EAC and save them as an image. I do this always twice to verify the CRC, however, I realized that the CUE files are sometimes different. For the same CD i get ...

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TRACK 01 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 02 AUDIO
INDEX 00 02:59:49
INDEX 01 02:59:50
TRACK 03 AUDIO
INDEX 00 05:22:04
INDEX 01 05:22:05

... or only ...

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TRACK 01 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 02 AUDIO
INDEX 01 02:59:50
TRACK 03 AUDIO
INDEX 01 05:22:05

.. and sometimes I even have the same ISRC for two different tracks.

Is this something I should worry about if I want to have an accurate copy of my CDs? And should I start to create the CUE files more than once to compare them?

Thanks Kasper

Gambit

Apr 5 2005, 16:33

This is most likely related to the "Gap/Index retrieval method" selected. I had this problem too on my Lite-On. Method A or B would be sometimes off by 1 frame. Only method C works accurately with my drive. Also note that changing "Detection Accuracy" doesn't solve it, you have to rather find the correct detection method for your drive.

Supacon

Apr 5 2005, 16:38

Aw hell... now I've gotta re-rip three hundred rare, and very scratched up discs.

I'm guessing that the cuesheets that plextools pro XL generates using a decent plextor drive *would* be accurate, because it'll be using the correct method.

EAC is frickin' slow at reading the pregaps too... sometimes it takes about ten minutes, or even more. I usually have to try different methods until one works within the time frame that I have to live.

Gambit

Apr 5 2005, 16:44

Well, you should find the right method and stick with it. For example, on my drive, method A is the fastest but not accurate (less than a second per track), method B is painfully slow and also not accurate and finally method C is accurate and acceptable fast (below 2 seconds per track).

Supacon

Apr 5 2005, 23:21

But... how do you actually know what is accurate?

kjoonlee

Apr 6 2005, 01:26

Pregaps shouldn't be as short as 1-frame.

Supacon

Apr 6 2005, 13:37

Uhm... I'm not understanding kjoonlee... you you saying that if you see a 1-frame pregap, there is something wrong?

I find that when they exist at all, they are usually around 2 seconds, although I have seen all kinds of numbers.

kasper

Apr 7 2005, 05:42

Now I get with ...

Method A:

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TRACK 03 AUDIO
TITLE "Some Of Us"
PERFORMER "Starsailor"
ISRC GBAYE0301039
INDEX 01 05:22:05

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TRACK 03 AUDIO
TITLE "Some Of Us"
PERFORMER "Starsailor"
ISRC GBAYE0301038
INDEX 01 05:22:05

(Track 02 has the ISRC GBAYE0301038)

Method B:

... same as with method A.

Method C:

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TRACK 03 AUDIO
TITLE "Some Of Us"
PERFORMER "Starsailor"
INDEX 01 05:22:05

Should I care about the ISRC? Method C does not detect it, and the indices are with all methods the same now ...

Or should I buy a new drive before i start to rip the next 300 CDs?

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