Hi.
I was playing my usual playlist and noticed that I'm trying to stay within Vorbis, I prefer Vorbis even where I can't hear any difference. I'm just feel more comfortable myself while playing Vorbis. I know, it's not a very serious poll, but I'd like to know how much of people with similar placebo around and where it came from. Yes, I'm a Vorbis fan, but I'm fan of Vorbis more because of it's free than because it got higher quality to me. Looks like I passed FAN>DIEHARDFAN stage on a lowest brain level or something?

I use Vorbis because it plays gaplessly on my portable player, has pretty decent sound at ~120kbps, and... no frustrating sfb21 issue as mp3 has

However, these Vorbis files are generated on-the-fly from higher-bitrate Musepack or lossless files, before getting transferred to my player. So I don't need "fuzzy feeling" about Vorbis, just efficiency

Edit: so I voted null. Not a very interesting poll to me..

Wow. Exactly my thoughts.
I also use Vorbis -q4.25 files on my portable player, transcoded from Musepack or lossless sources.

No. But I've seen some people with the placebo. They're mad.

Which portable players do you have?

What placebo?

haha, i get *exactly* that feeling
especially with ogg q6 being my format of choice, plays on mah iriver (which recently is used mostly as a gameboy emulator, these rockbox guys are insanely genius)...

Hi! Welcome to Hydrogenaudio, the place of many people who pay attention to some things.

Heh, seems like a common practice, "Me too!" Although I use -q5 with some of the additional switches in Vorbis 1.1 to counter pre-echo.

Latexxx: I have a Rio Karma. It works well, I can recommend it (although I believe it's a discontinued model now).



I've used -q3.5 so far


It's probably useless at my lowish -q3.5, but I'm just curious: which switches do you use to reduce pre-echo ?

From my side I prefer Vorbis, I'm a fan mostly because is free and opensource.

The exelent quality is another important reason because I love Vorbis, I prefer encode my music at Q2 ~ 96kbps, that encode to MP3 at 160kbps.

I would say for common place encoding -q 4 range is solid, but it depends on what type of music you are encoding whether or not you should use lower -q values. I find that if I were going to encode a song or piece with an acoustic guitar in it you really need those impulse_noisetune and trigger profiles they make a worldwind of a difference. -q 2 range is solid for streaming and even portable listening. Anything lower than that you really need to get used of the way Vorbis reconstructs high-frequency noise I still prefer it over sfb21 issue, but in ABX reference test for a lot of people it can be troublesome. Anything past -q 5 is just overkill or rather should be indistinguishable, although I am sure their are still some common place problems for most part.

Vorbis makes my lips numb, so I had to stop using it. I think it was because I was holding it in my mouth next to the placebo.

But seriously, I almost exclusively use Vorbis on my PDA (AoTuV -q 3), and it satisfies my needs quite well listening with Sony earbuds. But that's only 512 MB's worth at a time. I'll also occasionally use Vorbis for a listening test.

My entire collection is encoded in FLAC and resides on a 400 GB portable hard drive, because I'm most interested in lossless archival, clean source transcoding (for a wide variety of testing), hardware compatibility and portability.

That's the way I would go if I had more HD space.

I wish I could afford 400 GB, let alone 40...

No, but I do when playing lossless, though I'm aware that I can't ABX with mp3 @ 128-160 (depending on the music)

Vorbis got near perfect patents and I have no doubt about it. (could be a paceboed reply )

note: lossy suckz !

heh... (26+19+12) > 28

looks like I'm one of the majority

I guess such psychological affect is a norm. And I guess such effect could be used by big corporations to promote their stuff, perhaps ain't perfect stuff..

*cough* APPLE *cough*