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nolik
Dear Brothers,

I’d like to take Digital Sound Stream out from my «DELL Inspiron 9100» notebook via SPDIF digital output. I have some music in «24 bit/ 96 kHz» format, so I’d like to take it out without any possible lossy actions via SPDIF output (to decode it in an external DAC).

First of all I’ve discovered that SPDIF output represented on the back side of my «DELL» belongs to «Sigma Tell STAC 9750 AC97» adaptor. I’ve found «SigmaTell» documentation and it is likely that SPDIF output is FREE from any possible digital conversion inside the «SigmaTell» because it doesn’t go through its DAC or smth:



My program audio player is foobar2000. It has a «Kernell Direct Driver» which allows foobar2000 send Data DIRECTLY to the SoundCard omitting Windows Mixer Drivers:



But this beautiful «foobar2000 Kernell» driver doesn’t work with onboard SoundCard. So there is no chance to omit «Windows Mixer Drivers» sad.gif Now I must choose one of the Windows based drivers:



So, there are some questions I have to solve:

1 - «Windows Mixer Driver» will apply some digital recalculation regarding to the Mixer. Will it change my «24 bit/ 96 kHz» data stream format in a 16/48 or in any other digital format? Is there a chance to loose a sound quality on this stage?

2 - Which Windows based driver would reflect my needs best?

3 – Is there a chance to get the SPDIF digital output format 16/48 (or any other format) instead of original «24 bit/ 96 kHz» because of «Sigma Tell» DAC properties (it is only 20 bit / 48 kHz)?

4 – Is there a chance to get the SPDIF digital output format 16/48 (or any other format) instead of original «24 bit/ 96 kHz» because of any other reason I can’t see?

I appreciate your help very much,
Nolik.
mtm
QUOTE (nolik @ Jun 19 2005, 02:49 AM)
First of all I’ve discovered that SPDIF output represented on the back side of my «DELL» belongs to «Sigma Tell STAC 9750 AC97» adaptor. I’ve found «SigmaTell» documentation and it is likely that SPDIF output is FREE from any possible digital conversion inside the «SigmaTell» because it doesn’t go through its DAC or smth: (...)

But this beautiful «foobar2000  Kernell» driver doesn’t work with onboard SoundCard.
If the codec is of AC97 type, then it probably expects 16 bit / 48 kHz data type. This is the possible source of the problem with KS, but it's also possible that drivers simply do not support KS.

QUOTE (nolik @ Jun 19 2005, 02:49 AM)
1 - «Windows Mixer Driver» will apply some digital recalculation regarding to the Mixer. Will it change my «24 bit/ 96 kHz» data stream format in a 16/48 or in any other digital format? Is there a chance to loose a sound quality on this stage?
Yes and yes (most probably).

QUOTE (nolik @ Jun 19 2005, 02:49 AM)
2 - Which Windows based driver would reflect my needs best?
You can try KS or ASIO (using ASIO4All), but no guarantees one of them will work. Other than those, you should probably try both DirectSound and WaveOut.

QUOTE (nolik @ Jun 19 2005, 02:49 AM)
3 – Is there a chance to get the SPDIF digital output format 16/48 (or any other format) instead of original «24 bit/ 96 kHz» because of «Sigma Tell» DAC properties (it is only 20 bit / 48 kHz)?
Yes, there is. And it's high.

QUOTE (nolik @ Jun 19 2005, 02:49 AM)
4 – Is there a chance to get the SPDIF digital output format 16/48 (or any other format) instead of original «24 bit/ 96 kHz» because of any other reason I can’t see?
The chip may be unsuited to support 96 kHz. The drivers may be so, too.

I'm afraid there is only a thin chance to use your laptop's SPDIF without problems with 24/96 content. You would have to contact Dell's technical support and find someone who actually knows anything about your laptop and its sound chip.

I'm afraid that your best bet would be a purchase of a decent USB or FireWire external soundcard if you want to use your laptop as a sound source. sad.gif
jimboelrod
Hi,

I personally have had problems with asio5all, using foobar2k. I have an m aduio delta 410. This doesn't mean it won't work, I don't know if the onboard soundcard would even support asio. If you do use a usb or firewire card there should not be much, if any, signal loss or degredation.
nolik
QUOTE (mtm @ Jun 19 2005, 12:34 PM)
I'm afraid that your best bet would be a purchase of a decent USB or FireWire external soundcard if you want to use your laptop as a sound source.  sad.gif


Dear TMT,

Thank you for the detailed description. It’s very informative.
I appreciate if you could recommend me a USB, or even better FireWire sound card to cover my needs.

Thanks.
mtm
Unfortunately, I have no experience with external sound interfaces. But try something from M-Audio or Audiotrak, they make good sound cards.
marcan
I'm using an emagic emi 2|6 and it works great thru my usb even at 24/96. I just use the asio output in foobar, matching the bit depth and the the sampling frequency with the card, without this it won't work.
nolik
Is there anybody experienced with «ECHO Indigo DJ» PCMCI sound card?

http://www.echoaudio.com/Products/CardBus/IndigoDJ/index.php

I appreciate your comment on this device…

Thanks.
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