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Artemis3
Will unicode support in filenames ever be added by ahead?


I just bought a DVD burner, and proceeded to my usual backing up of data, just to find out that the new and shiny "nero express" won't even see my japanese unicode filenames.

I will try with Nero Burning Rom Ultra whatever in a few moments but if it is the same i will have to look elsewhere...


With cds i used to have no problems using either the hidden "multibyte" feature of nero 5 or using burnatonce 0.97 Burnatonce 0.995 can't see the files either...


So the question is: Which burning program supports unicode? Thanks.
sh1leshk4
Nero 6 does support Unicode...

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Artemis3
Nero Express:
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Nero Burning Rom:
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Windows Explorer:
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pika2000
QUOTE(sh1leshk4 @ Jun 29 2005, 03:11 PM)
Nero 6 does support Unicode...

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This just shows WinXP supports unicode, not Nero.

In order to have kanji as filenames in Nero, change winXP's non-unicode setting to, let's say, Japanese, and restart windows. Now, when you want to burn a new DVD in Nero, on the ISO tab, and Character Set (ISO) drop down list, another option should appear called "multibyte." Select this, and all the kanji filenames will be showed and burned just fine in Nero.
sh1leshk4
QUOTE(pika2000 @ Jun 30 2005, 08:57 AM)
This just shows WinXP supports unicode, not Nero.
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If Nero doesn't support Unicode, then it'd show garbage.
The OS and the app should both support Unicode if u want to use Unicode for anything.
But cmiiw. smile.gif

Anyway, I don't think Artemis3 is using WinXP.
I suspect it's a Win98 SE, but I'm willing to digress.
You need at least a Win2k to get Nero working w/ Unicode characters.

On WinXP, I didn't need to set the non-Unicode support to Japanese to burn a data DVD w/ Unicode characters.
This is why I thought Nero supports Unicode characters.
Just make sure u have all the language files (for WinXP) installed.

~but,yeah,cmiiw,asAlways... smile.gif
pika2000
Without the non-unicode locale setting changed to a kanji supporting language, Nero won't show any of the kanjis in the project windows. It will show an error message when you drag-n-drop those files/folders.

The multibyte option won't be available if the non-unicode setting is set to English. Without it, Nero won't be show the kanji characters in the project window, and the files won't be burned properly. You NEED the multibyte option for ISO burns to support kanji.
sh1leshk4
Well, I just used Nero Express and have used the verifying option in Nero.
Everything works fine and all that jazz.
The data I burned on my DVD is readable, of course.

Anyway, if any of this isn't applicable on Artemis3's OS, then it's pretty much useless.
zombiewerewolf
VSO CopyToDVD may support unicode. (I've never use it, though.)

In its history page:

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version 1.0.0.13 - CopyToCd RC
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* Full compatibility with Unicode file systems such as Windows 2000, Windows XP, and any far east Windows versions.
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version 2.2
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- Full compatible with asian characters, under any windows OS (fixed a bug that was truncating asian-formed names under win9x,Me)


CopyToDVD changes history
Artemis3
It IS Win2k... I knew about the multibyte hidden option in nero.. i just can't imagine why they had to force people change the locale to asian languange for it.

My os language uses accented characters. Microsoft sadly defined default folders inside Documents and Settings, with (non unicode) accented characters.

What happens when you switch the locale to japanese? Windows enables shift-jis decoding and shift-jis is incompatible with non unicode accented characters, i guess..

Anyways, whatever the reason, any nonunicode accented folders or files suddendly become invisible to software. The start menu folder in spanish windows is a folder called "Menú inicio", when you switch locale it becomes Menu inicio (a dup appears), and its blank too... You could try copying the contents hoping you don't have any accented character in file names... I don't understand why windows can't treat everything in unicode from the start.

The other problem when switching the locale is that various programs suddendly decide to show you the interface in the new language... That might be challenging when you are just starting to learn the language. Windows nt/2k/xp might have good l10n, but its i18n still sucks.

And yet, in this very same system with this very same locale setting some programs work just fine as long as you use unicode. Such as windows explorer, foobar2000, Media Player Classic, older burnatonce, etc.

So in the end my quest for finding an unicode aware dvd burning program has just begun. I will try CopyToDvd; any other suggestion is very welcome. Thanks!
sh1leshk4
In 'Regional Options', do not change 'Your locale (location)' setting.
Instead, make sure all of the options are checked under 'Language settings for the system'.
(just for full compatibility sake aside from Japanese)

Now click 'Set default...' button.
When the 'Select System Locale' window pops up, select 'Japanese' from the drop-down menu ('Select the appropriate locale').
Artemis3
Just tried CopyToDvd... can't say i like it, but it works smile.gif

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Burned the disc and tried reading it and windows explorer shows the proper file names.

CopyToDvd doesn't have any trouble seeing the files (adding, burning, etc.), only renaming inside the program damages the filename. Can live with that happy.gif
Artemis3
QUOTE(sh1leshk4 @ Jun 30 2005, 03:42 AM)
In 'Regional Options', do not change 'Your locale (location)' setting.
Instead, make sure all of the options are checked under 'Language settings for the system'.
(just for full compatibility sake aside from Japanese)

Now click 'Set default...' button.
When the 'Select System Locale' window pops up, select 'Japanese' from the drop-down menu ('Select the appropriate locale').
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Sorry if i was not clear, i said i have done that before (defaulting system locale to japanese) but prefer to avoid it for various reasons. Yes, all languages are installed, i have the IME working as well, ありがとうございます。
sh1leshk4
The IME bit is actually not needed, but what the hey... smile.gif

Well, use what's usable to you.
This might also be a feature request to Nero developers out there. wink.gif
Artemis3
It is! happy.gif
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ccampbell (Senior Member) 5 October 2004 13:48
Hi Birkirb,

If we get enough users requesting a feature, then it's easier for me to push forward a new feature request. But currently we do not get many End Users, and no OEM's requesting the Unicode Compatable character set.

Regards,

Craig

Ahead Software
USA
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