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westgroveg
John Bonham - Led Zeppelin/Achilles Last Stand
Lars Ulrich - Metallica/Unforgiven/Fade to black
sony666
I changed my mind a bit after listening to Led IV again:)

John Bonham of Led Zeppelin

"Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV - 02 - Rock And Roll.mp3"
xmixahlx
hmmm...

john henry bonham
mitch mitchell
mick fleetwood
keith moon
ginger baker
phil rudd
neil peart
bill bruford
carl palmer
buddy rich
westgroveg
And give my some song names so I can judge!!!.
rjamorim
Roger Taylor (Queen) is worth mentioning, IMO.
marteataca
Chuck Biscuits: Danzig - Brand New God, Long Way Back From Hell (and all others with Danzig)
Igor Cavalera: Sepultura - ALL SONGS!! (try Roots Bloody Roots) ph34r.gif
Lars - nonono... Lars Sux! dry.gif
kennedyb4
QUOTE(westgroveg @ Sep 20 2002 - 08:15 PM)
John Bonham - Led Zeppelin/Achilles Last Stand
Lars Ulrich - Metallica/Unforgiven/Fade to black

Wasn't Bonham dead when this tune came out?

Nah, I'm messed up.

Bonham died in 1980, and this tune was off Presence released in 1976.
smg
Drummers

1.Keith Moon......The Who.............Baba O'Riley
2.Bill Ward..........Black Sabbath.....IronMan
3.Ron Bushy........Iron Butterfly......In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida
4.Phil Rudd..........AC/DC...............TNT/Dirty Deads Done Dirt Cheap
5.Neil Peart.........Rush.................Cygnus X-1
Somebody
All the drummers mentioned are my favorites.

An addition though:

Danny Carey from Tool, any song, actually. Mainly the song Aenema.
westgroveg
QUOTE(marteataca @ Sep 21 2002 - 03:23 PM)
Lars - nonono... Lars Sux! dry.gif

What’s so bad about Lars? , IMO he owns the drums, tams them like a wild horse. biggrin.gif
sony666
QUOTE(marteataca @ Sep 21 2002 - 04:23 AM)
Chuck Biscuits: Danzig - Brand New God, Long Way Back From Hell (and all others with Danzig)

Nice Avatar you got over there.
Yeah Chuck is ok but I liked London and Steve in Samhain more smile.gif
marteataca
QUOTE(westgroveg @ Sep 21 2002 - 05:31 AM)
QUOTE(marteataca @ Sep 21 2002 - 03:23 PM)
Lars - nonono... Lars Sux! dry.gif

What’s so bad about Lars? , IMO he owns the drums, tams them like a wild horse. biggrin.gif

two words:
Napster Banned
westgroveg
QUOTE(marteataca @ Sep 21 2002 - 05:48 PM)
QUOTE(westgroveg @ Sep 21 2002 - 05:31 AM)
QUOTE(marteataca @ Sep 21 2002 - 03:23 PM)
Lars - nonono... Lars Sux! dry.gif

What’s so bad about Lars? , IMO he owns the drums, tams them like a wild horse. biggrin.gif

two words:
Napster Banned

Yes, maybe he thought he was helping young striving musical artists & that Napster would silence the music, we don’t know his intentions. IMO he is a ignorant greedy pig BUT that has nothing to do with his musical skills & I wouldn’t stop enjoying his music just because of that.

edit:
Really little has changed as long as there is P2P there will be music sharing for music lovers & most of the time music people get of the Net is music they wouldn’t buy anyway & if they really like a band there is nothing like the original I think music sharing gives as much as it takes as far as $$$ most people don’t bother downloading/converting/burning when they can just buy an ORIGANAL for a few bucks unless the really don’t have the cash which if they don’t they should enjoy the music for free after all it cost the Artist nothing & it can give the listener so much.
marteataca
QUOTE(sony666 @ Sep 21 2002 - 05:37 AM)
QUOTE(marteataca @ Sep 21 2002 - 04:23 AM)
Chuck Biscuits: Danzig - Brand New God, Long Way Back From Hell (and all others with Danzig)

Nice Avatar you got over there.
Yeah Chuck is ok but I liked London and Steve in Samhain more smile.gif

Steven and London rlz too (u guys could look for the songs Moribund and Mother of Mercy)
user posted image

but Chucks drums at Danzig r more mature, IMO
marteataca
QUOTE(westgroveg @ Sep 21 2002 - 06:07 AM)
QUOTE(marteataca @ Sep 21 2002 - 05:48 PM)
QUOTE(westgroveg @ Sep 21 2002 - 05:31 AM)
QUOTE(marteataca @ Sep 21 2002 - 03:23 PM)
Lars - nonono... Lars Sux! dry.gif

What’s so bad about Lars? , IMO he owns the drums, tams them like a wild horse. biggrin.gif

two words:
Napster Banned

Yes, maybe he thought he was helping young striving musical artists & that Napster would silence the music, we don’t know his intentions. IMO he is a ignorant greedy pig BUT that has nothing to do with his musical skills & I wouldn’t stop enjoying his music just because of that.

well, Lars is a good drummer BUT Igor Cavalera is much better IMO.
Here in Brazil, at 1998 (?), Sepultura opened a Metallica´s live show (I was there biggrin.gif), and Igor just kicked Lars ass
ProtectYaNeck36
travis barker of blink-182 and boxcar racer (blink-182 - "time to break up" to name just one)

chad smith of red hot chili peppers (youd have to see him live)

?uestlove of the roots also played for jay-z uplugged (the roots - "you got me" no thats not a drum machine in the end of the song)

and whoever was the drummer for santana when they played at woodstock '69 (not sure if they played at '99 or not, hence the year specification)

thats all that come to mind right now.
Infrared Archer
QUOTE(Somebody @ Sep 20 2002 - 09:14 PM)
An addition though:

Danny Carey from Tool, any song, actually.  Mainly the song Aenema.

I'll second that biggrin.gif


Tool - Lateralus - 08 - Ticks & Leeches
Midian
IMO:

- Vinnie Colaiuta (!!!)
- Rene Creemers

although you may not know them at all smile.gif

some well known i like:

-buddy rich
-travis barker (blink 182)
-mike portnoy (dream theater/ liquid tension experiment)

...
PatchWorKs
My (actual) favourite top four drummers:

1. Sven Horl / Sanitys Dawn / Mangled in the meatgrinder (whole album)
2. Dave Curloss / Malevolent Creation / Eternal (w.a.)
3. George Torres / Dehumanized / Prophecies Foretold (w.a.)
4. Scott Lewis / Brutal Truth / Extreme Conditions Demand Extreme Responses (w.a.)
Volcano
Jeff Porcaro (Toto, Dire Straits, Bruce Springsteen, and various others - I remember reading he even appears on Pink Floyd's "The Wall").
john33
Most of you guys probably aren't old enough to know this name, and I'll only mention one: Gene Kruper. wink.gif
Uosdwis R. Dewoh
john33:

Krupa, not Kruper. tongue.gif

Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich, also mentioned here, actually played side by side a couple of times. Check out 'The Drum Battle' for some pretty cool live drumming. biggrin.gif

/ Uosdwis
john33
Actually, both spellings appear to be used although I think the one you used is the more correct!! biggrin.gif
Tinribs
Mitch Mitchel without a doubt (in my mind)
papadoc
Anyone know what John Bonham did,
that set him apart from all the rest at the time?

When Led Zeppelin released their 4th album in 1971,
they did a song called "Stairway to Heaven".
In that song, at the 6.21 minute mark (or close to it)
John Bonham hit a set of quadriplets on his bass drum, clean!
If you listen closely you'll catch it.
Our drummer at the time went crazy.
He came running in with the album yelling "you gotta hear this!"
Until then, noone had ever tried it, that we knew of.
I guess you had to be there to really appreciate it's impact.
qristus
My vote goes for Dr. Avalanche / The Sisters of Mercy - Body Electric wink.gif
ssamadhi97
Neil Peart (Rush)
Carter Beauford (Dave Matthews Band)
floyd
Danny Carey of Tool is probably the most skillful and innovative drummer of his time. I personally prefer his stuff on Opiate/Undertow than the more bizzare shit Tool came up with on Aenema and Lateralus. (he seems to especially overuse tom rhythms, sans hi-hat, on Lateralus) His hi-hat and ride syncopation are imo completely, totally unmatched in a rock drummer.

Some nice Carey tracks in particular:
Hush - Opiate
Crawl Away - Undertow (listen to the drum fill at around 4:05, and the dbl kick section preceding it.)
Part of Me - Opiate
Undertow - Undertow (pretty much shows his whole repetoire here)

Pantera's Vinnie Paul may not be as versatile as Carey, but his drumming is almost machine-like in precision. I've never heard a more steady double-kick. A few tracks to give a glimpse of his perfection:

Regular People - Vulgar Display of Power
Fucking Hostile - Vulgar Display of Power
Domination - Cowboys from Hell
Art of Shredding - Cowboys from Hell
Really anything off CFH or VDOP. Other albums have weaker stuff, IMO. Most amazing fact: apparently Vinnie only has two toms! Many drummers do far worse with 10+ toms than he does with 2.

Last drummer: Matt Cameron of Soundgarden. A very solid drummer, that doesn't seem that complex at first, but extended listening reveals extremely cool variations on themes and nice fills. Listen to anything off Badmotorfinger to hear him at his best. I don't have the album right here to pick tracks, but Jesus Christ Pose would be a nice place to start.

Can you tell this is one of my favourite topics? biggrin.gif
smg
QUOTE(john33 @ Sep 21 2002 - 11:24 AM)
Most of you guys probably aren't old enough to know this name, and I'll only mention one: Gene Kruper. wink.gif

The first drummer to be a superstar, Gene Krupa may not have been the most advanced drummer of the 1930s but he was in some ways the most significant. Prior to Krupa, drum solos were a real rarity and the drums were thought of as a merely supportive instrument. Krupa, who with his good lucks and colorful playing became a matinee idol, changed the image of drummers forever.
Gene Krupa made history with his first record. For a session in 1927 with the McKenzie-Condon Chicagoans, he became the first musician to use a full drum set on records. He was part of the Chicago jazz scene of the 1920s before moving to New York and worked in the studios during the early years of the Depression. In December 1934 he joined Benny Goodman's new orchestra and for the next three years he was an important part of BG's pacesetting big band. Krupa, whose use of the bass drum was never too subtle, starred with Goodman's Trio and Quartet and his lengthy drum feature "Sing, Sing, Sing" in 1937 was historic. After he nearly stole the show at BG's 1938 Carnegie Hall Concert, Krupa and Goodman had a personality conflict and Gene soon departed to form his own orchestra. It took the drummer a while to realize with his band that drum solos were not required on every song! Such fine players as Vido Musso, Milt Raskin, Floyd O'Brien, Sam Donahue, Shorty Sherock and the excellent singer Irene Daye were assets to Krupa's Orchestra and "Drum Boogie" was a popular number but it was not until 1941 when he had Anita O'Day and Roy Eldridge that Krupa's big band really took off. Among his hits from 1941-42 were "Let Me Off Uptown," "After You've Gone," "Rockin' Chair" and "Thanks for the Boogie Ride." Krupa made several film appearances during this period, including a very prominent featured spot in the opening half hour of the Howard Hawks comedy Ball of Fire, performing an extended version of "Drum Boogie" (with Roy Eldridge also featured), and William Dieterle's faux jazz history, Syncopation. Unfortunately Krupa was arrested on a trumped-up drug charge in 1943, resulting in bad publicity, a short jail sentence and the breakup of his orchestra.

In September 1943 he had an emotional reunion with Benny Goodman (who happily welcomed him back to the music world). Krupa also worked briefly with Tommy Dorsey before putting together another big band in mid-1944, one that had a string section. The strings only lasted a short time but Krupa was able to keep his band working into 1951. Tenor-saxophonist Charlie Ventura and pianist Teddy Napoleon had a trio hit in "Dark Eyes" (1945), Anita O'Day returned for a time in 1945 (scoring with "Opus No. 1") and, although his own style was unchanged (being a Dixieland drummer at heart), Krupa was one of the first swing big bandleaders to welcome the influence of bebop into his group's arrangements, some of which were written by Gerry Mulligan (most notably "Disc Jockey Jump"). Among the soloists in the second Krupa Orchestra were Don Fagerquist, Red Rodney, Ventura, altoist Charlie Kennedy, tenorman Buddy Wise and in 1949 Roy Eldridge.

After breaking up his band in 1951, Krupa generally worked with trios or quartets (including such sidemen as Ventura, Napoleon, Eddie Shu, Bobby Scott, Dave McKenna, Eddie Wasserman, Ronnie Ball, Dave Frishberg and John Bunch), toured with Jazz at the Philharmonic, ran a drum school with Cozy Cole and had occasional reunions with Benny Goodman. In 1959, Columbia Pictures released The Gene Krupa Story, a biographical drama based on Krupa's life starring Sal Mineo in the title role and Red Nichols in a supporting part. Gradually worsening health in the 1960s resulted in him becoming semi-retired but Krupa remained a major name up until his death. Ironically his final recording was led by the same person who headed his first appearance on records, Eddie Condon. Gene Krupa's pre-war big-band records are gradually being released by the Classics label.
Destroid
Honorables:
-John Bonham (duh)
-Pete Sandoval (of Morbid Angel), the fastest drummer.

Others:
Dave Lombardo, Mitch Harris, Steve Ashiem (sp?), Rikard Wermen, Stewart Copeland, Tim Alexander and one or two already mentioned...
dreamliner77
I'm suprised that no one here has mentioned Nick Mason yet. I think he is one of the most underrated drummers out there. Just listen to his drumming on Atom Heart Mother or the Live in Pompeii version of One of THese Days.

I also think Scott Rockenfield of Queensryche deserves a good mention. Some of the best syncopated fills I have ever heard. Check him out on the Rockenfield/Speers cd's. His stuff is cool
ssamadhi97
I forgot to mention:
Robert Heaton (ex New Model Army)
Michael Dean (New Model Army)

interesting enough, their style and skill are strikingly similar..
Snelg
Not necessarily the best (or my personal favorite), but you have to give some credit to Alex Van Halen, at least for the intro to "Hot For Teacher".

...and tangentially, any opinions on the best vocal percussionist / beat-box artist?
For raw vocal percussion, my vote's on Andrew Chaikin

(no, not the same guy as the astronaut Andrew Chaikin)

Click Tha Supah Latin (or however you spell it) has my beat-box vote, though.
MachineHead
Drummer: Daniel Seraphine

Band: Chicago

Song: I'm A Man. Blew the shit out of a pair of speakers listening to this. Was a good excuse to get a new set.
Bax
Max Weinberg - The E Street Band
ProtectYaNeck36
oh man, i totally forgot about max! good call, hes amazing!
auldyin
Jim Keltner with whoever he plays

aulyin
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