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dozerman
Hi...
I've read a possible method to have gapless MP3 with Lame :
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GaplessHowTo
et
http://www.geocities.com/nyaochi2000/lame/cuesheet/
But these articles are old.
How could I use ".cue" files with Lame latest version ?
Thanx
Synthetic Soul
LAME stores gapless information in each file, you just need a player that understands it.

foobar is the only one I know of, but there's no doubt others.

I think you are eluding to the other (less preferable) option, which is creating one image file, and using a cuesheet to jumpt to tracks.

I use this method with Monkey's Audio files, but with MP3 I believe it isn't ideal, as seeking is very poor, IIRC.

Either option will only work on the PC - so I'd go for track files played through a player that handles LAME's gapless info - like foobar.
nyaochi
I ceased the development of the cuesheet patch for LAME and developed more generic tool (ACDIR) for this job. Please refer to the ACDIR web site if you prefer command-line interface:
http://nyaochi.sakura.ne.jp/xoops/modules/...wares/tc_2.html

When I developed the patch for the first time, the situation concerning MP3 gapless was bad (i.e., we had nothing but use --gapless option). But recent versions of LAME consider the gapless playback naturally by introducing MP3Info frame. You can enjoy the gapless playback without an extra effort as long as the player supports MP3Info frame, e.g., foobar as Synthetic Soul mentioned.
HisInfernalMajesty
Isn't one way to get a gapless MP3 set is to put all the MP3s you want to play in a .RAR file with the compression level set to "store"? I know if you put this file in Winamp, it'll play it as one long file, but I don't remember if this method is gapless... One thing you can do, I know, is when you make the archive, put .mp3 after the .rar that way it's just one huge mp3 file.. Though.. you wouldn't have a .cue file though so maybe this isn't what you were talking about


edit: I just tried this method with two songs that run together and it wasn't gapless on winamp... though the gap was shorter than if the files were separate.. but there was still a noticble gap
dozerman
Thanx very much to all of you that answer me...
Your were very helpfull !!! biggrin.gif
SebastianG
QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ Jul 24 2005, 08:01 PM)
I think you are eluding to the other (less preferable) option, which is creating one image file, and using a cuesheet to jumpt to tracks.
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You can do that and then properly split the mp3 file according to the cue sheet. This will not only be gapless but seamless (clickless) as well on LAME tag aware players. (The Rockbox team is working on LAME tag support.)

Sebi
Never_Again
QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ Jul 24 2005, 03:01 PM)
I think you are eluding
Alluding?
QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ Jul 24 2005, 03:01 PM)
to the other (less preferable) option, which is creating one image file, and using a cuesheet to jumpt to tracks.

I use this method with Monkey's Audio files, but with MP3 I believe it isn't ideal, as seeking is very poor, IIRC.
YRW. =) No problems here with WinAmp and the Cue Player plugin.
QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ Jul 24 2005, 03:01 PM)
Either option will only work on the PC - so I'd go for track files played through a player that handles LAME's gapless info - like foobar.
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I don't follow your logic here: does foobar2000 work on anything else but the PC?
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Synthetic Soul
QUOTE (Never_Again @ Jul 26 2005, 02:54 AM)
QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ Jul 24 2005, 03:01 PM)
I think you are eluding
Alluding?

OMG! A spelling mistake in a forum post! Call the English Oxford dictionary! tongue.gif Thanks for the info.

QUOTE (Never_Again @ Jul 26 2005, 02:54 AM)
QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ Jul 24 2005, 03:01 PM)
to the other (less preferable) option, which is creating one image file, and using a cuesheet to jumpt to tracks.

I use this method with Monkey's Audio files, but with MP3 I believe it isn't ideal, as seeking is very poor, IIRC.

YRW. =) No problems here with WinAmp and the Cue Player plugin.

IDTID. From everything I've read seeking in MP3 is poor, and therefore I still wouldn't recommend this method over using track files with a gap-aware player.

Check this post for a quote. Check further up for a quote from zZzZzZz, whose opinion I highly regard.

I'm sure there are numerous other posts in this forum on the subject - and, I repeat, whether it works for you or not, I would still prefer track files with gapless info, and therefore recommend it to others.

QUOTE (Never_Again @ Jul 26 2005, 02:54 AM)
QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ Jul 24 2005, 03:01 PM)
Either option will only work on the PC - so I'd go for track files played through a player that handles LAME's gapless info - like foobar.
I don't follow your logic here: does foobar2000 work on anything else but the PC?

Whether you go for a cuesheet with an MP3 image, or LAME track files with a gap-aware player, you are limited to PC playback as far as I am aware (although I understand Rockbox are going to be allowing gapless playback on the iRiver soon).

I can't explain it any other way.

Edit: BTW my knowledge of portables is lacking, so it is very possible that there is support for gapless playback with MP3 on a portable already. I would be very interested to hear of any other player, whether it is PC-based or portable, that supports LAME's gapless info. Thanks.
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