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microZ
I would like to raise a question that has been on my mind for a while.
Some years ago i really thought mpc or ogg would take mp3's place, and was astonished at the audio quality of those formats.

As I already read somewhere else in this forum (i'm an old newbie hydrogenaudio visitor), people are saying mp3 is going to outlive many other audio formats . If this is really the fact, do we have to get used to mp3 artifacts and not use better formats as mpc or ogg, because it will be difficult to have support for these other better lossy formats in the future?
Well, why don't we go back to vynil instead of sticking to cd's?

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Cyaneyes
No.
jaybeee
QUOTE(microZ @ Aug 3 2005, 07:36 PM)
I would like to raise a question that has been on my mind for a while.
Some years ago i really thought mpc or ogg would take mp3's place, and was astonished at the audio quality of those formats.

As I already read somewhere else in this forum (i'm an old newbie hydrogenaudio visitor), people are saying mp3 is going to outlive many other audio formats . If this is really the fact, do we have to get used to mp3 artifacts and not use better formats as mpc or ogg, because it will be difficult to have support for these other better lossy formats in the future?
Well, why don't we go back to vynil instead of sticking to cd's?

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Your argument starts off about not using mp3 because of artifacts (that you get with ogg & mpc and all lossy formats btw), and then you say to use vinyl (note the spelling) instead of CDs! Well, you never mentioned CDs... do you mean CD-Rs with mp3s on or do you mean 'proper' CDs?

And as Cyaneyes said, the answer is no.
legg
NO!!! imagine the pain of playing vinyl discs on your car wink.gif

If that doesn't make it then picture a vinyl discman. ohmy.gif
Cyaneyes
To elaborate:

What he's saying is, if newer formats aren't gaining acceptance despite their higher quality, we might as well just go back to vinyl, since apparently no one cares about audio quality.

The fact is, mp3 sounds good enough to the vast majority of people, and with modern encoders and proper settings can very often reach transparency, even under critical listening conditions.

But no one's telling YOU what to do. YOU don't need to continue using mp3 if you don't want to. There's a world of options out there, in both lossless and lossy formats.
microZ
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Your argument starts off about not using mp3 because of artifacts (that you get with ogg & mpc and all lossy formats btw), and then you say to use vinyl (note the spelling) instead of CDs!  Well, you never mentioned CDs... do you mean CD-Rs with mp3s on or do you mean 'proper' CDs?

And as Cyaneyes said, the answer is no.
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Well, everybody knows lossy is lossy, the point is the hearable lossiness...
CD=PCM format... (i read somewhere else is lossy too, and it really must be when you use a sample frequency only two times the highest frequency a human is able to hear) but let's take for granted that pcm is not lossy...

Well... vynil also has a higher frequency response... (but the bad point here is noise ... )
microZ
QUOTE(microZ @ Aug 3 2005, 04:06 PM)
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Your argument starts off about not using mp3 because of artifacts (that you get with ogg & mpc and all lossy formats btw), and then you say to use vinyl (note the spelling) instead of CDs!  Well, you never mentioned CDs... do you mean CD-Rs with mp3s on or do you mean 'proper' CDs?

And as Cyaneyes said, the answer is no.
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Well, everybody knows lossy is lossy, the point is the hearable lossiness...
CD=PCM format... (i read somewhere else is lossy too, and it really must be when you use a sample frequency only two times the highest frequency a human is able to hear) but let's take for granted that pcm is not lossy...

Well... vynil also has a higher frequency response... (but the bad point here is noise ... )
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Well someone might say noise in the right place is a good thing too...
And it surely is...
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Axon
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