Check out the great news! (w00t)
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Ladies and Gentlemen and other assorted interested parties:
This morning (2:28am, EDT), I received an E-mail from Y.H. Lee, the Chief Engineer of iRiver's products. He has informed me that they are currently porting the fixed-point Ogg Vorbis decoder (Tremor) to their product. We will endeavour to assist them in any way we can.
In addition to letting iRiver know that we stand behind them ready to assist with technical issues, I believe a huge thanks is in order to the people who have contacted iRiver asking them to support our format. We're indebted to all of you who have posted looking for Vorbis support on this thread, as well as all of you who have sent iRiver E-mails and called them on the telephone.
With any luck, it won't be long before iRiver starts releasing products with Ogg Vorbis support. When the day comes, I hope you'll all take a moment to congratulate yourselves, and celebrate with a portable full of music encoded in an open and free format.
If anyone has any questions, comments, or anything they want to talk about, please feel free to drop me an E-mail to emmett@xiph.org, or give me a call at 215-820-9583. We're an open source project, and we love hearing from people, talking about the codec, and discussing cool stuff. Please don't hesitate to contact us if you want to gripe, complain or compliment.
Thanks again for all your help, folks. We couldn't do it without you.
Emmett Plant
CEO, Xiph.org Foundation
greenirft
Sep 24 2002, 12:26
Well, hell. That means I'm going to have to start saving money to buy an iRiver Vorbis player.
Hopefully this is true, and "porting" doesn't mean "we downloaded the source code, but we arn't doing a thing with it". Also hopefully this porting will come quickly.
AngelGR
Sep 24 2002, 12:38
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Well, hell. That means I'm going to have to start saving money to buy an iRiver Vorbis player.
One for me too.
Awesome! (hopefully it'll have vorbisgain support for playback)
SNYder
Sep 24 2002, 13:05
(w00t)
/me takes a deep breath....
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!!!!!! YES YES YES!!!!!!
/me does the little cooky dancy
OMG!!!! FUCK YEAH!!!!
THIS RoCKS SO MUCH!!!! I WAS JUST PLANNING ON ORDERING THE NEW iMP-400, AND NOW I GET THIS GREAT NEWS OF OGG SUPPORT COMMING!!!!!!! OMG YEEEESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
/me runs around the room franticly
ChristianHJW
Sep 24 2002, 13:08
Vorbis made it !!
Congrats to Monty, Emmett and all others involved .. this is a great day for opensource community !!
timcupery
Sep 24 2002, 13:28
I'm on the list of buyers, vorbisgain or no vorbisgain. Vorbisgain is nice on a computer where you could do lots of mixed-file listening, but on a portable I'd mainly listen album-by-album, so it doesn't matter as much for me.
HotshotGG
Sep 24 2002, 13:29
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Thanks again for all your help, folks. We couldn't do it without you
Emmett and Monty come through yet again.
Very good news! IMO this will be a big step in the popularization of Vorbis. I guess also that iRiver will sell lots of players when they become Vorbis compatible.
Great news. If it becomes reality I'll buy one.
Pity that they are so expensive in Europe... Have anyone found one for less than 200€ ?
boiling_ice2k4
Sep 24 2002, 13:44
that's great!
Does anybody know an estimated date when Iriver will release this vorbis compatible firmware? sorry for bein' impatient
, I just hope it will be released sometime soon. Congradulations to everyone at Xiph.org for all their hard work and dedication! Ogg vorbis will soon rule the world B) .
frozenspeed
Sep 24 2002, 14:22
Well, iriver releases a firmware every quarter so far and if it holds, one was released last week...
-Jeff
Volcano
Sep 24 2002, 14:42
Money so they say
Is the root of all evil today...
...which is, I can't afford this cool player!
Negative Zero
Sep 24 2002, 15:58
Ehhhh, this isn't such big news to me. A lot of people, including myself, suspected that iRiver had Ogg Vorbis support in the works. Even before Emmett's post, an iRiver employee over at the official forum confirmed that support for Ogg Vorbis is underway. The real question is: WHEN is iRiver's Ogg Vorbis support coming?
Cygnus X1
Sep 24 2002, 16:09
In a related realm, I just read a copy of an e-mail from another company, Frontier Labs, who claim to be "in talks" with the Ogg foundation about including support in their products (Nex II, etc.). This is great news---an Ogg compatible CD player and an Ogg compatible flashcard player! Let's see how long it takes for all of this to materialize...hopefully not long.
>>THIS RoCKS SO MUCH!!!! I WAS JUST PLANNING ON ORDERING THE NEW iMP-400
SNYder,
iMP400? You mean 350, right? If not, where did you hear about that?
PS: For those that have a 350, are you having any problem reading DirectCD disks?
Seems like (but I haven't tested) that there is a difference in the way DCD (w/ Easy CD Creator 5) formats the disk as compared w/ DCD-ECDC 4. I am getting "no Disk" error messages with 5.
Xenno
Negative Zero
Sep 24 2002, 16:29
The
iMP-400 is iRiver's latest MP3 / CD player. It looks different (sorta like a toilet bowl) and has a stylish new remote, but in terms of functionality, the iMP-400 is almost identical to the iMP-350 SlimX.
Zaraza
Sep 24 2002, 16:30
Will a new firmware for the RioVolt include this as well? (aren't the firmwares closery related for the two?)
>>Will a new firmware for the RioVolt include this as well? (aren't the firmwares closery related for the two?)
I think they are. Latest firmware (for 350) is v2.10.
400 look more like a toilet seat top - maroon one is cool.
Xenno
redcane
Sep 24 2002, 17:13
Finally A Portable that is worth me buying
This will be the first player (other than my own homebrew ones) with a feature I consider essential: vorbis support.
chrisgeleven
Sep 24 2002, 17:16
I hope that the IMP-100 series (such as the RioVolt SP-90 and SP-100) will get an firmware upgrade to support this. If they say there isn't enough space to put OGG support in, then make an option to get rid of Windows Media support. I don't think anyone will cry over that (except Microsoft)
so does iriver make solid-state stuff, or just cd-portables? to me, ogg would be more useful in a low-memory environment, whereas with 700mb to play with, space savings with ogg aren't that amazingly useful.
yeah, iriver makes CD, Dataplay and solid state players.
Negative Zero
Sep 24 2002, 18:28
Yes, floyd, iRiver recently released a new line of solid state players. I still prefer MP3 / CD players, though.
http://www.iriver.com/product/detail.asp?i...t_name=iFP-180T
AgentMil
Sep 24 2002, 20:55
Hmm my wallet is beginning to feel slightly lighter right now!
QUOTE(Negative Zero @ Sep 25 2002 - 12:28 AM)
Yes, floyd, iRiver recently released a new line of solid state players. I still prefer MP3 / CD players, though.
http://www.iriver.com/product/detail.asp?i...t_name=iFP-180TThanks for the info
Looks like a nice player, but by the look of the website, isn't flash memory upgradeable (major point for me). Still, with 128mb, you could cram alot of -q1-2 oggs. + 20 hours battery life on 1 AA is nice.
Guess I'll just wait and see how much they want for it
kjoonlee
Sep 25 2002, 00:22
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Guess I'll just wait and see how much they want for it
It's been anounced that iFP-180T will be sold in Korea with a price tag of 198,000 won.
1 dolar equals 1200 won, more or less, YMMV. So.. around 165 dollars?
edit: I wonder if iRiver's stuff is cheaper in Korea or abroad.
Moguta
Sep 25 2002, 10:05
This is sweet news! Yay for OGG-ness!
Now why did iRiver JUST have to release the iMP-400? I got the SlimX (iMP-350) a few weeks ago, and now I want the 400. =P
Negative Zero
Sep 25 2002, 10:30
Heh heh. Even I am leaning towards buying a new iRiver iMP-400 to replace my SlimX (which I've owned for several months). The more I read about it, the more interested I become.
SNYder
Sep 25 2002, 12:47
QUOTE(Moguta @ Sep 25 2002 - 11:05 AM)
This is sweet news! Yay for OGG-ness!
Now why did iRiver JUST have to release the iMP-400? I got the SlimX (iMP-350) a few weeks ago, and now I want the 400. =P
not really JUST. As far as I can tell, it isn't even available yet. I am just PLANNING on buying one. First I have to get the money (which shouldn't be tooo hard) then actually wait for it to come out.
Negative Zero
Sep 25 2002, 13:02
The iRiver iMP-400 has already been released in Korea. A North American release is slated for some time this month, according to iRiver's web site.
Artemis3
Sep 25 2002, 14:55
I would rather like CDR portable players.
All these VCD/DVD stand alone devices should add OGG support ASAP.
Specially those for 8cm discs
Memory players should be hitting 256KB, i say. thats why i don't like Flash Memory, so expensive... wish we had more space in these. Maybe HD based ones?
Korea, Korea.. i guess they started the mp3 portable frenzy, now they also start the ogg one, whats next? aac? mpc?
A friend of mine just told me yesterday "which program do i use to open ogg? its the first time i see ogg on the net, are they good?"...
I had to answer: "Winamp. quality depends on the person who encoded it".
Ogg Vorbis may be replacing mp3, after all.
Oh and while we are at it, how about programming DSP's on board of sound cards to decode ogg? Are there such things?
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