what doomed vqf? why didnt it become a viable format for audio at lower bitrates?

1.) Slow, CPU-hungry encoding and decoding.
2.) No hardware support.
3.) Closed (proprietary) format.
4.) The most common encoders only offered two bitrates, 80kbps and 96kbps, which both sounded like poo-poo IMO.

WMA, from what I read, uses a modified VQF type of encoding scheme (and also sounds bad to boot). I have to wonder if vector-quantitization is even a viable encoding method compared to regular transform encoders like mp3 or Ogg, since both implementations (wma's and VQF's) sucked.

(Nice avatar BTW, even if we lost yesterday to the Bills )

This thread doomed VQF:
http://www.vqf.com/bbs/display.php3?board=...orum&DISP=13102



edit: FUCK!!! sorry Roberto...was trying to reply!

Oh my Lord......the famed VQF boards!

If wma "ist God", I have just become a Satanist.

Thanks Roberto

Eheheh.

Ist=is
God=good
Death=dead
Destwhoreshun=distortion
Sycoostik=psychoacoustics
vbar, cbor=vbr, cbr

And so on. Adam (Filburt) did that mess to criticize the foreigners (?) that appeared there from time to time doing wild claims in terrible english.

ROFL!!!

HAHAHAHA.....
snip: "YOU LISTEN ME? USE WMA! WMA IST BETTR THAHN CD AT 48kbps"

This is some funny shit!
pfffff YOU LISTEN ME?
HAHAHAHA

Are you on booze, Jan?


Anyway, could you please get my post back to it's original state?

Blah. Now I'm pissed.

ROFL!!!
WMA sucks, but that post is pathetic....

Anyways.... what doomed VQF?
Cygnus pretty much summed it up.
It was only a tiny bit better than MP3, but had no support and was slow as hell.
A format cannot win the leadership by that

There are some TwinVQ players.
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,128...2,18253,00.html
http://www.solidaudio.ne.jp/sajap/player/ (Japanese)

VQF succeded as a technology demonstration for TwinVQ. The result of this demonstration as that TwinVQ is now part of mpeg-4. Test shown that a combination of TwinVQ + AAC was better than AAC alone at very low bitrates.

Now, with sbr, the situation could be different...

erhm....not really...I think I'm gonna get some clicking security system one of these days...Everytime I click on something it should say:
are you sure you wanna do this?:
-Yes
-Maybe
-I didn't click!
-No

I love the Maybe option! And the I Didn't Click! option is cool too..