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earphiler
hey, i downloaded an mp3+cue cd, and i want to know how to take the songs extract them each individually ( i dont want two one hour mp3s on my iPod) without transcoding.

I know foobar has diskwriter, but that's pretty much transcoding (i think). correct me if i'm wrong or i'm not doing it right.
A_Man_Eating_Duck
musicutter

after using this, run each resulting mp3 through Foobar's header fix to correct the reported mp3 length
SebastianG
Better use pcutmp3 for this. It cuts the mp3
a) at the exact CD sector boundaries
b) rewrites the VBR header
c) resolves bit reservoir issues

Especially the latter one will be interesting for you, earphiler, since the iPod is known to choke on "improperly cut" mp3 files (you'll hear clicks / glitches at the start of tracks if one of the first frames is undecodable due to an incomplete bitreservoir buffer)

Sebi

edit: typos
markanini
Is this the only program that can losslessly split mp3s?
SebastianG
I guess this depends on your definition of "lossless". IMHO this term is pretty overloaded. If by lossless you mean that it's possible to merge splitted parts togegher so that the result decodes to the same thing then I have to admit that this is currently not possible with pcutmp3 (joining not yet implemented but possible theoretically).

Parts that have been generated via simple frame-wise cutters can usually be joined via
copy /b part1.mp3+part2.mp3+part3.mp3 all2gether.mp3
(let's forget VBR headers for the moment) wink.gif

However, in certain cases it is desirable to use something like pcutmp3 with its mentioned features (for one it handles inter-frame dependancies correctly resulting in files that don't let the iPod choke on playback). To my knowlegde there's nothing comparable out there.

If by lossless you mean, that the mp3 data is NOT reencoded then: No, Most of the mp3 cutter/splitters do it losslessly (including pcutmp3).

Let me throw another buzzword in the ring: gapless
It really depends on what your player does. If you use mp3DirectCut and the player just concatenates the files on the fly while playback then your playback will be gaplessley. I believe the Rockbox firmware (for mp3 porties) does that. The catch: Play'em out of order and you'll hear glitches due to bitreservoir dependancies.
If you use Foobar2K or XMPlay32 (these support the LAME tag) I encourage you to try pcutmp3. I'll be perfectly gapless then (LAME tag support is important).


Sebi
markanini
QUOTE(SebastianG @ Nov 4 2005, 11:57 PM)
I guess this depends on your definition of "lossless". IMHO this term is pretty overloaded. If by lossless you mean that it's possible to merge splitted parts togegher so that the result decodes to the same thing then I have to admit that this is currently not possible with pcutmp3 (joining not yet implemented but possible theoretically).

Parts that have been generated via simple frame-wise cutters can usually be joined via
copy /b part1.mp3+part2.mp3+part3.mp3 all2gether.mp3
(let's forget VBR headers for the moment) wink.gif

However, in certain cases it is desirable to use something like pcutmp3 with its mentioned features (for one it handles inter-frame dependancies correctly resulting in files that don't let the iPod choke on playback). To my knowlegde there's nothing comparable out there.

If by lossless you mean, that the mp3 data is NOT reencoded then: No, Most of the mp3 cutter/splitters do it losslessly (including pcutmp3).

Let me throw another buzzword in the ring: gapless
It really depends on what your player does. If you use mp3DirectCut and the player just concatenates the files on the fly while playback then your playback will be gaplessley. I believe the Rockbox firmware (for mp3 porties) does that. The catch: Play'em out of order and you'll hear glitches due to bitreservoir dependancies.
If you use Foobar2K or XMPlay32 (these support the LAME tag) I encourage you to try pcutmp3. I'll be perfectly gapless then (LAME tag support is important).


Sebi
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Thanks for you detailed answer. I an in a simmilar situation and I have looked at some older theads about the subject of splitting mp3s but I havent been able to draw any conclusions about which tool is the best. Can I assume that pcutmp3 is ahead of it's "competitors"?
SebastianG
I suppose one can say so, yes -- if you don't count usability wink.gif

Sebi
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