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TCM
hi,

i'm trying to backup a cd. the first track is displayed in red color in eac.

what does that mean?
Synthetic Soul
The track has a hidden track, or TRACK 01 INDEX 00 entry.

Your drive may not be able to rip it.

Similar thread:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=34303

Current thread regarding ripping these tracks:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=38551

Another hidden track thread with some example CDs:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=37266
BoraBora
QUOTE(Synthetic Soul @ Nov 8 2005, 01:15 PM)
The track has a hidden track, or TRACK 01 INDEX 00 entry.

What I don't know is how long the track 01 index 00 has to be to trigger the red flag. I know 8 seconds are enough because of this CD:

CODE
REM DISCID 9F09340A
REM COMMENT "ExactAudioCopy v0.95b3"
PERFORMER "Diane Tell"
TITLE "Chimères"
FILE "Diane Tell - Chimères.wav" WAVE
 TRACK 01 AUDIO
   TITLE "Souvent longtemps énormément"
   PERFORMER "Diane Tell"
   ISRC FR60F8200100
   FLAGS DCP
   INDEX 00 00:00:00
   INDEX 01 00:08:00

Maybe 2 seconds? I guess I should go the EAC forum and ask Andre. wink.gif
Duble0Syx
QUOTE(BoraBora @ Nov 8 2005, 09:38 AM)
QUOTE(Synthetic Soul @ Nov 8 2005, 01:15 PM)
The track has a hidden track, or TRACK 01 INDEX 00 entry.

What I don't know is how long the track 01 index 00 has to be to trigger the red flag. I know 8 seconds are enough because of this CD:
Maybe 2 seconds? I guess I should go the EAC forum and ask Andre. wink.gif
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I have discs with gaps that are2.32 seconds which don't trigger it, so it has to be longer than that. Perhaps anything over 3 seconds. I don't have any albums with hidden tracks at the beginning though.
bubka
Less Than Jake - Loosing Streak is a perfect example, there is almost a full 2 minutes of audio before where track one is to start

if you rewind the track past the "official" start, you can then hear the audio

the time goes into negative minutes / seconds
yulyo!
what drive you have?
TCM
well, thanks for the replies.

for the record, the drive is a samsung sh-d162c. the disc is aphex twin - druqks, both cds are affected. track 1 starts at 0:00:08.00 each time.
kotti
I've had this with one CD too, Wigwam's Being. I managed to rip it with my Liteon 411s but had problems with the drive I normally use for all rips.

A screenshot of EAC
EAC's log file
The CUE file
Drenholm
QUOTE
    PREGAP 00:08:00

Doesn't this mean your pregap will have been replaced with silence?
bubka
i could not get my drive to extract it...
kotti
QUOTE(Drenholm @ Nov 9 2005, 09:48 AM)
QUOTE
    PREGAP 00:08:00

Doesn't this mean your pregap will have been replaced with silence?
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No, the music begins from the very first second. Should have mentioned that.
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