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matteo1983
HI, this WILL be the LAST topic i post on this! lol
ive read the forums, wiki etc, and need confimation on some things:

for backup:

1. if i rip a cd using create image + cue sheet > compressed, using wavpac, i get two files, a wv.wav and .wv.cue, if i remember rightly...
is this the same as create image + cue sheet > uncompressed then using foobar to convert the .wav image into a .wv image file and renameing the quesheet to point at the .wv files?!?!

2. which is the best way of creating image + cue? compressed or uncompressed? im thinkin uncompressed so i get .wav image and .cue files

3. is there ne need to save the eac log file?? some people do, but y?

4. i already hav ripped some cds as individual .flac files, if i use foobar to convert em to 1 wav file, then put the original cd back in and use eac to create a cuesheet, would this be the same as ripping the cd as crete image + cuesheet > uncompressed?

5. i plan on converting the image file into multiple wavpack to play, if i eva need to, would i need a different type of cue sheet to play these? or as theyre invidual, no quesheet at all? i dont plan on playin .wav image with the cuesheet...

6. am i generally talkin cr*p? or got the wrong end of the stick?!?!

Cheers

Matteo
Synthetic Soul
QUOTE(matteo1983 @ Nov 25 2005, 09:08 AM)
1. if i rip a cd using create image + cue sheet > compressed, using wavpac, i get two files, a wv.wav and .wv.cue, if i remember rightly...
is this the same as create image + cue sheet > uncompressed then using foobar to convert the .wav image into a .wv image file and renameing the quesheet to point at the .wv files?!?!
Basically, yes. If you ripped to uncompressed the cuesheet would be "<name>.cue" and the FILE reference would point to "<name>.wav". You'd have to change the FILE reference to "<name>.wv". However, if you rip to compressed just using WavPack and not a tool like REACT or WACK then you will end up with "<name>.wv.wv" with the cuesheet pointing to "<name>.wv" - so you will need to rename the WV file. One of the many benefits of REACT and WACK.

QUOTE(matteo1983 @ Nov 25 2005, 09:08 AM)
2. which is the best way of creating image + cue? compressed or uncompressed? im thinkin uncompressed so i get .wav image and .cue files
Why not do it at the same time? I don't see the point in taking two/three steps when you could take one - if there is no degredation of quality.

QUOTE(matteo1983 @ Nov 25 2005, 09:08 AM)
3. is there ne need to save the eac log file?? some people do, but y?
Many people seem to like to. I currently am as I recently switched to REACT and it makes it easy. However, I do wonder what the need is - as long as you are happy that the rip was good do you really need the log? Personal preference.

QUOTE(matteo1983 @ Nov 25 2005, 09:08 AM)
4. i already hav ripped some cds as individual .flac files, if i use foobar to convert em to 1 wav file, then put the original cd back in and use eac to create a cuesheet, would this be the same as ripping the cd as crete image + cuesheet > uncompressed?
As long as the gaps are still intact. If you have the CD why not just rip again? Or if not, at least rip one again and then test the merged wave against the ripped wave to test.

QUOTE(matteo1983 @ Nov 25 2005, 09:08 AM)
5. i plan on converting the image file into multiple wavpack to play, if i eva need to, would i need a different type of cue sheet to play these? or as theyre invidual, no quesheet at all? i dont plan on playin .wav image with the cuesheet...
You won't need a cuesheet to play. I really don't know if having both wave and WavPack is a good sytem though - what a waste of space (not you, the wave files wink.gif)

QUOTE(matteo1983 @ Nov 25 2005, 09:08 AM)
6. am i generally talkin cr*p? or got the wrong end of the stick?!?!
I personally think that your system has some flaws. Why use wave files? Why have both wave files and lossless files?

Perhaps if I understood your requirements more I may come around to your way of thinking, or be able to suggest what I would do in your situation. If you want me to.
matteo1983
cheers for the reply!

i like the idea of ripping to wav + cuesheet (uncompressed) (with the log now!) as these will be burnt straight to dvd for backup and converted to other formats such as mp3 etc as i need them.

basically, wat i think ill be doing, is ripping the cd as uncompressed, then converting the wav image to wavpack and deleting the wav one b4 i burn the dvds.

can eac recognise wv cuesheets for buring cds later?
i dont seem to get the .wv.wv file, i think its .wv.wav i get, not sure thou

wat exact steps do u take for backin up?

Cheers
Matteo
Synthetic Soul
EAC can't recognise WavPack files for burning IFAIK. I guess using Burrrn, or decoding back to wave beforehand are the best option. It's not as if you have to do it often, so I really don't see the problem with decoding back to wave and using EAC with offsets.

I'm not sure whether foobar uses offsets for both ripping and writing. Anyone?

I recently stopped using my own batch file system and switched to REACT. There are a few benefits, including better/safer character replacement and easily embedding the logfile.

I am currently using WavPack images with embedded cuesheet and log. I also keep the external cuesheet. I create PAR2 data for each image individually - although I don't really know if this is the best way - many create PAR2 data for the whole disc, and I am tending toward that. I write the WV, CUE and PAR2 files to DVD (Verbatim DVD+), and also now I write the WV and CUE files to an external hard drive. The hard drive is a recent addition, as my paranoia has increased. smile.gif Actually, it is partly to help me be able to eventually transcode the whole archive to MP3 - to replace the shocking amount of Blade and Xing files that I still have. I'll get around to this in the next year... I was going to do it when 3.97beta became the HA recommendation, but there still seems to be this --athaa issue...

Using foobar there is no problem using WavPack image with cuesheet to transcode to MP3, etc. I currently do this with foobar as a separate process to the rip, but I may eventually edit my REACT INI to use ACDIR so it is all done in the one go. I don't find it much of an inconvenience at the moment though, so just haven't bothered.
Synthetic Soul
QUOTE(matteo1983 @ Nov 25 2005, 10:40 AM)
i like the idea of ripping to wav + cuesheet (uncompressed) (with the log now!) as these will be burnt straight to dvd for backup and converted to other formats such as mp3 etc as i need them.
ANother major downside with wave is the lack of tagging. You can't embed the log or cuesheet, or tag with artist, album, genre, date, etc. if you use wave.
matteo1983
cheers again! looks like i have this sorted now!

there was one other things thou, when i embed the .cue sheet into the wavpack image, using something like CUESHEET=@*.cue, it works fine, but when i look at the image (with embedded quesheet) in foobar, the album name (@g) tag jus shows 'g' for all the tracks?

actually come to think of it, it sounds like a prob with my encoding line, cause @g and 'g' sounds like more than jus a coincidense!

thanks a million for clearin that up!

this 'paranoia' thing is affecting a few people i think! especially me....lol

Matteo
Synthetic Soul
I think you're probably using @g instead of %g. :-)

So many symbols...
matteo1983
lol, i hope it is that!!!
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