I like the way DFX enchances the sound (especially with lossy input), and I really miss it in fb2k. There are plenly of its implementations for various players (WMP, Musicmatch Jukebox, RealPlayer and RealOne, Winamp), so perhaps there might be a way to plug some of these in fb2k (via some bridge plugin)?

P.S. Foobar2winamp is not good enough, needs to be configured again each time you restart it.

foo_dsp_delta has a better effect than dfx used to do. wait for a new version of it to come out for 0.9.

Yes very true.

A "foobar-to-Winamp" plugin would be a good thing, so all the Winamp users out there could enjoy foobar.
A "Winamp-to-foobar" on the other hand... Well.. You know.

It'd uninstall Winamp and install foobar2000 for you. Nothing wrong with that.

As far as I understand foo_dsp_delta performs only one type of enhancement (mixing input with derivative), while DFX had more. So it could pe better in one way only.

I just read my post again and realized it's very easy to understand falsely

Anyway, I was talking about more like a "foobar-plugins-to-Winamp" wrapper (and the other way around).

Remove the "plugins" from that equation and you have something remotely feasible, however stupid. Wrapping foobar2000 plug-ins to work in Winamp would involve rewriting so much of foobar2000 that you may as well leave out the Winamp part.

Well, now you know what this x-fi is good for... however perverted it may be.....

Like I was being serious

Wrapper plugins == tools of the devil.

some would quite happily say the same about certain dsp plugins as well

-daz

Can you high-brows condescend to give a reason for despising winamp plugins (and their cohorts)? I expect it must be an adequately verified sound corruption, no less.

Sound corruption has nothing to do with, at least not for me. What you do to the music you listen is up to you.

The problem is that using Winamp (DSP) plugins in foobar2000 isn't exactly easy. You have to use all kinds of tricks to overcome the limitations of the Winamp plugin API. Even then, a number of plugins still won't work or even crash the player. This lack of reliability and stability is what annoys people the most.

Perhaps plugins from other players I mentioned have more stable and reliable APIs and are easier to get into fb2k?

That's not the point imho! If you want to use plugins of different players then simply use these other players. Foobar2000 has its own SDK with which you can develop all kinds of plugins in a "non-hackish" way. It was never intended to use plugins from other players in foobar2000 afaik.

XMPlay in the past tried to go the wrapper route...... it would support winamp input-plugins and sonique visualizations. Sounds great on first thought, because winamp has lots of input-plugins and sonique has lots of interesting visualizations.

Unfortunatelly, getting the winamp inputplugins to work often required lots of trial&error and hacks on the user side. In the end, XMPlay instead began to cover the most important formats natively..... the only thing which worked out was the sonique-vis wrapper idea.

using a plugin aimed for a different plugin architecture hacked into another plugin architecture will never work 100% since there will always be the odd ones that expect something which you can never implement in the emulation layer and so you'd get crashes, etc as foosion said.

for this situation the best thing is to either find a native alternative to dfx or pester dfx to create a native fb2k version.

and as a continuation from Lyx's post, wrapper layers are a pain to work with (even when it's a native plugin wrapping existing plugins as i've found from one of my winamp projects). for something like a dsp it is especially important to be a native build i think.

-daz

Hello. I realize this is an old thread but can anyone tell me if there has been any news on a version of DFX for f00ber200? I really like the DFX plug-in as well and I feel it unfairly often gets bashed my most audiophiles on different forums. The effects, especially ambiance and 3D surround sound beautiful to me on certain orchestral songs.

http://pelit.koillismaa.fi/plugins/show.php?id=149

and you can use anything. not only DFX.

OK I just downloaded this plugin, but how do you use it? I am still a brand new newbie to foobar, so I don't know what's going on. Can you tell what I need to do in order to use DFX?

go to DSP manager in preference and add Winamp DSP bridge to the chain.

select it and hit configure and browse to your winamp plugin path.

it should show up on the list.

i think you need to have winamp , `cause when you try to run the .exe it won`t let you installed it, only their is a way to do it and i don`t know

Yes, you have to have Winamp installed. It works fine, though.

Just create a fake winamp folder and place a winamp.exe file there.

renaming any empty txt file does it.

The program at http://pelit.koillismaa.fi/plugins/show.php?id=149 called
Winamp DSP Bridge plug-in (foo_dsp_winamp)

works very nicely, though I use 4front's OSS/3d R7, which produces a nicer sound IMHO than DFX.

The plugin is easy to use, just go to preferences>playback>DSP Manager, make the plugin active, click configure, and if you have WINAMP and the plugins for winamp installed, they come up automatically. DFX and OSS both work very nicely.

Are you referring to *THIS?*

If so, then it I'm afraid it doesn't work with latest version of FB2000