Morning..Still reading the forums today..Just joined...Havent as yet jumped into the fray that is ripping, but i see that i have lots to learn..Have had my first experience with copy controled cd...For now am useing musicmatch jukebox 10 (free) --Will EAC and lame allow the ripping to mp3 these discs?? Am over 40 so help is valuable at that age ..Thanks...Tim

It depends on what kind of copy protection is on the disc. If you could tell us the artist, album title, and (even better) the record label for the discs in question, we could probably help.

@timmy114
Most copy protection won't work if you press and hold the Shift key while loading the Audio CD.
This is what people call 'temporarily disabling the Autorun'.
Make sure to keep pressing the Shift key until your drive's LED stops blinking.

If the copy protection is already installed, it's already too late.

On a second note, you should read the TOS. Talking about copy protection circumvention is not permitted on this board.

It isn't? I have read the TOS like 3 times and can't find anything that states that....

#9: (emphasis mine)



Dunno how actively enforced it is though....

Just to jump in here, I have never had a need to try to bypass copy protection really. For all the CD's I have, I always just had to hold down shift to prevent autorun, and EAC would always rip the CD fine. I've never found a CD where this does not work.

If post is found with information as of how to bypass copyprotection it will be dealt with according to TOS - it is a consistent board.

this have been asked many times, i have responded myself many times to use dbpoweramp, and many responded to use EAC, i have never so a "dont talk about it before". maybe i was a little distracted.

referring to applications such as EAC or dbpoweramp etc. isn't really advising copyprotectio circumvention. These applications and other similar are not based at all on circumvention - in fact EAC has removed a few functions that were compromising exactly this.
These applications have a more general use, but with the benefit of handling many copyprotection formats by nature (and also drivedependant)

discussion of circumvention that would be unappreciated would be certain drivers, hacks and manipulation of code and or hardware in order to extract data/audio.

eac has an option in the preferences to always disable autorun when it's running.

not endorsing anything, i'm just sayin'... how you use that function is entirely up to you.


and two other totally-unrelated-to-piracy facts:

1) many cd protection schemes function by trying to confuse the ripping program
2) eac is championed by audio nerds because it is designed to check and double check and triple check and quadruple check the data it extracts.

you do the math here

Copy protection would protect something, yes? However the copy prevention garbage added to current CD's is more likely to encumber the user & prevent making a copy, which could then allow the original to be protected.
So in effect, the so-called "copy protection" is actually more accurately called "original endangerment" because it increases the likelihood of loss of use of that original. It does not protect anything at all.
Perhaps a re-wording of the TOS would better reflect the intent of its creator(s) but in the current form one should certainly be able to talk about disabling spyware (ie, Sony rootkit junk) and disc corruption (ie, Cactus DataShield et al) with no fear of reprisals.
Copy prevention is our enemy, but copy protection is our friend. I personally use SmartPar to protect my FLAC-encoded copies.

A certain piece of software that's known to disable the automatic installation of rootkits would be of very good value . AnyDVD from slysoft...

IMHO, the easiest (and best) way is to permanently disable CD Autorun. I do that on my PC and no rootkit can be installed. I never have to worry about forgetting to hold the Shift button when inserting the CD.

I mean, what's the point of autorun? Even with autorun disabled, you can still right-click on the CD drive icon and sure enough, there's an "AutoPlay" menu item there. I made a shortcut of the CD on the desktop, so I don't need to open Explorer.

Me, I'd rather hunt and open the autorun.inf file, see what it's configured to execute, and run the file myself. Safer, and I get to know what's going on when I insert a CD.

Back to the topic , with so-called "Copy Prevented" CDs, after inserting the CD, I rip using EAC to FLACs, then 'fold' the CD in 2 (accompanied by a 'snap' sound ). If I ever need to play the CDA in standard CD players (e.g. in my car), I grab an empty CDR, and Burrrn the tracks. If the CDR dies, just Burrrn a new one (CDRs in my country cost only .40 USD. Yes, that's 40 US cents and good enough to last at least 4 years - the oldest CDR in my collection. Still good.)

In mine, they cost 15 cents CANADIAN...

To answer your question, the autorun is just a lesser part of the total digital control master plan.

Stage 1: Activate Windows Scripting Host in all win98 by default so that email start to infect everyone.

Stage 2: Something to do with DCOM that is remotely running activeX object. Again, why is this on by default since 99% of users use local objects?

Stage 3: Looking at a movie in WMP with activated "Automatically download codec" infect you. Guess if the options is on by default...

Stage 4: Simply looking at image in IE or having them on your HD and opening the folder in the Window Explorer (can you get lower than that? files listing infect now!)
http://www.f-secure.com/news/items/news_2005123000.shtml

Stage 5-9: Unknown yet but will probably involve the MS RSS feed support and the MS copy of the PDF format (Metro)

Stage 10: Vista operating system that will upon insertion of CD load directly the protection on it without any way to prevent it. The secure platform initiative will do the rest like prevent control panel and drivers modification...

Then a windows update DNS hack with a delayed payload by some random kid will destroy all the machine in the world and pave the way for the US World Firewall, which put simply will request you to register your "access point" with your ISP that will request access to the Master Firewall, allowing you access to good sites even if everything will be logged for our own good. At last, we will know Peace, hahaha.

The Stage 4 is acting right now and like the stage 3 will probably be left unpatched for a long time, just to make sure it can reach enough people.

Reason for all this is that corp all over the planet now need to prevent their employes to do all thoses risky action, so no music, no movies, no email can be left uncheck. When you don't have the money to control everything, you make other peoples do it for you, corps or ISP.

As a side note, do you know that any web site can get the list of your MSN messager contacts if you have javascript activated and the message is open?

Warning: This post contain an acute form of paranoia.

Sorry if I'm off topic.

It's because I've seen threads with a 'disable Autorun to prevent copy-protection' suggestion.
Or do I really need to watch my wordings and have to get better at wordplay? =)

Yeah, something like "I'm living in Russia and I just bought at a (legal) record shop a CD distributes by a Major record label. I'd like to make a backup of my CD but my legal CD ripper can't read it.
Could you help me to achieve the security that this content deserves?
Thank you"