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sugargenius
I recently purchased a 1gb iAudio G3 to replace my Samsung YP-T6 (it repeated songs in shuffle mode).

After loading it with oggs, it hangs on the iAudio splash screen for a few seconds and the screen goes blank. This cycle then repeats. It never gets to the main interface.

I loaded it with mp3s, and it works fine.

I created the oggs by transcoding from flacs. I used fb2k diskwriter and aoTuV beta 4.51 q 2. They play fine in fb2k, winamp, coolplayer, etc.

Here is a sample file that doesn't work on my unit: creep.ogg

I tried re-encoding the file with oggdrop 1.8.7, and it played fine on unit.

I tried running ogginfo and oggz-validate with a script:

CODE
set logfile=d:\temp\iaudio\ogg\ogginfo.txt
if exist %logfile rm %logfile
for /r d:\temp\iaudio\ogg\ %x in (*.ogg) (
echo %x >> %logfile
oggzinfo "%x" >> %logfile
oggz-validate "%x"
)


That didn't yield anything useful either.

Has anyone else experienced anything like this? Are there any other tools out there to validate oggs?

Thanks,
Woody
gmB
I used to have Oggs encoded with aoTuV Beta 4 on my G3 2GB. They all played fine.
Then I reencoded all files from wavpack with aoTuV Beta 4.51 with the lancer speed optimizations. This resulted in constant rebooting every few seconds. So I reencoded all files with the regular aoTuV Beta 4.51. No effect.
I tried formating the drive, reflashing the firmware (1.51) to no avail. In the course of finding a solution to the problem, I randomly deleted files. Having removed a bunch of them my G3 booted again, but would skip certain Oggs.
Since the files encoded with Beta4 played correctly, I came to the conclusion that the problem was somehow connected with aoTuV Beta 4.51.

I had two options: Either going through a lot of hassle to find the exact cause of the problem, potentially finding out that Beta 4.51 is flawed and I could nothing do about it.
Or I could switch back to aoTuV Beta 4.

Well, I decided to reencode my collection with LAME 3.97. And because Cowon doesn't seem interested in implementing replaygain anytime soon, with replaygain processing (and crossfeeding) enabled.

On a sidenote: Some time ago, I found out that the advertised feature of displaying lyrics only works with mp3s, not with oggs. It seems, Cowons support of Ogg is not so great after all.
HotshotGG
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I had two options: Either going through a lot of hassle to find the exact cause of the problem, potentially finding out that Beta 4.51 is flawed and I could nothing do about it.


One of the AoTuV releases had a bugfix, I forget which one it is you will have to check out the Recommended encoders page in the wiki. Decoding support on flash player's (if it even is a flash player laugh.gif) hasn't been excellent for Vorbis in the past for some reason. If you remember the IRiver Series, etc. I never really understand why either, Vorbis support under Rockbox works quite well. It could just be the firmware

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Has anyone else experienced anything like this? Are there any other tools out there to validate oggs?


yes ogginfo.exe. I am not sure what context you are specifically referring to though.
Hanky
I guess removing some weird tags will do the job. IAudio players do not like non standard meta tags.
sugargenius
QUOTE(Hanky @ Feb 17 2006, 11:42 PM)
I guess  removing some weird tags will do the job. IAudio players do not like non standard meta tags.
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what do you mean?
Lucem
Yep, I tried your OGG sample ain my G3 2Gig (1.51 firmware) and it crashed.
With older firmwares I had same problems even with some MP3 files, as Cowon keept improving the firmware with several releases the problems seemed to disappear, this is the first time I've experience one in a long time.

I seem to remember hearing that the problem was caused by tagging.
BTW the minmum bitrate the G3 support is Vorbis Q0.
Hanky
I can confirm the problem is metatag related here.
I downloaded the original creep.ogg and copied it to my G3 1GB (fw 1.51) and it made the player crash very hard.
After that I removed all tags but the standard artist, title , track stuff in the hope that would solve the problem, but it didn't, it crashed again.
Finally I used Tag & Rename to remove all tags completely. The resulting file plays fine !
Could somebody please report this problem to Cowon iAudio?

I found an Ogg vorbis file that made my G3 crash before:
Download (legal smile.gif ) the track Wired (High quality) by Monique Brumby and test it on your player. After removing all tags it plays flawlessly.
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