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Synthetic Soul
Please find below a list of all suggestions as of <see this post's last edit date>:

Suggested Names for Thomas Beck's New Audio Codec:

TAK (Toms Audio K©ompression) - TBeck (here)
YALAC (Yet Another Lossless Audio Compressor) - TBeck

ATAK (Advanced...?) - towolf
LAW (Lossless Audio Worker/Weapon/Wizard) - Latexx
AP1 - foosion
A1C - halb27
Crystal (Audio) *already taken* - kjoonlee
YAA (Ye Audio Archiver) - Shade[ST]
Diamond, Aquamarine - kjoonlee
Clarity - jarsonic
Talcum - towolf/foosion
*.ION - archagon
Sirena / *.SN, SODA, Aurora, Borealis - archagon
Diamantine - pepoluan
XLACS (Extreme Lossless Audio Compression Scheme) - MuncherOfSpleens
Mozart('s Choice) - boombard/pepoluan
TNT, Exploder - rutra80
Calf, Cala, Oidua Seyknom, Gorf Mitpo or COS (short for "Cedoc Oidua Sselssol") - elmar3rd
HAc - boombaard
YALE (Yet Another Lossless Encoder) - MuncherOfSpleens
AFLA (April Fool's Lossless Audio) - Aspirant
RELACS (Really Efficient Lossless Audio Compression Scheme) - lionalex
YAC/YAK - kdo
SAC (Superior Audio Compression)
Null (Null: Ultimate LossLess), LaF (Lost and Found) - Cosmo
Crystalline, AudioLattice, Kiite, Durova, and Llewella - kjoonlee
Mozart, Bach, Beethoven, etc. - popoluan
Mach *already taken* - stephanV
Obsidian - Synthetic Soul
BAA (Beck's Audio Archiver), Halcyon - senab
The Beck's Experience - lazka
TBEC (Thomas Beck's Experimental Codec), TBPAK, TBAA, TBAC - tycho
TULAC (The User's Lossless Audio Codec) - Doktor Lorenz
Sled (Simply a Lossless Encoder) - sh1leshk4
Zwip - sh1leshk4
Calia - Insolent
SoundSqueeze or Songsqueeze, SonicSqueeze, SoniSqueeze /*.ssq, MusiComp - Supacon
BACH (Brilliant Audio Compressor Handling), Amadeus - guruboolez
BLA (Bitsquisher Lossless Audio) - slks
SoundStuffer - Supacon
Wavpress, Muzip, AudioZip/Auzip, HA1, Hydro - Badass01
Lyra, Terpsichore, Aria - cheerow
Lambda - Insolent
Lyracal - jido
Gumbo / *.gum, Zapper / *.zap - kanak
HELAC (High Efficiency Lossless Audio Compression/Codec), CAWAR (Compress Audio With Amazing Ratio) - jmartis
Stenosound - foosion
Pure Wave Touch - urak
LACN (Lossless Audio Codec for the Needy), OLAC (Obsessed Lossless Audio Codec) - Madman2003
Optimized Audio / *.OA, Optimized Lossless Audio (Compression) *.OLAC - unfortunateson
Gliste, Glissando - kjoonlee
ClearSound, ClearAudio, Clair/Claire - kjoonlee
Orchestra, Orkhestra, Orchestrion - monkey lord

Thanks to Supacon for taking the time to compile the initial list.
TBeck
QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ Apr 4 2006, 09:01 AM)
Firstly, YALAC is a really bad name, because it sounds like an ALAC derivative.  The acronym is cheesy as well.  Even if this is a temporary name you may be unnecessarily confusing the issue.

Secondly, wouldn't it be pretty easy to write a small app to simply remove the first 44 (header) bytes from a WAVE file?  Or is it not that simple?  I don't really understand the RIFF chunk thing, so maybe I'm just being dumb.  It's been known.

Anyway, I'm itching to take a look at your encoder.  It will take a lot to drag me away from WavPack, but I'm always interested in seeing new apps. I've been following your other thread, and it seems you've impressed.

Edit: BTW, if you are only looking for a few dedicated testers I'm probably not your man.  I'm happy to wait for a more general release.  Sorry, but I'm just too busy for some serious testing.  I'm more than happy to encode a bunch of files and verify them using some provided tool though.
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Yes, it's not a good name. I didn't have time to think about a good one.

It would be easy to write an app to remove (at least a simple) wave header. But actually i wanted some independent testers and you couldn't call them so if i provided the testing tools.

Thanks for your interest

Thomas
TBeck
QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ Apr 4 2006, 09:01 AM)
Firstly, YALAC is a really bad name, because it sounds like an ALAC derivative.  The acronym is cheesy as well.  Even if this is a temporary name you may be unnecessarily confusing the issue.
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You are so right. It's really a bad name! This wrong association to ALAC is a big mistake! I hope, that i will find a better name soon....

Thomas
towolf
QUOTE
Yalac


May I suggest ATAK as a working title? mad.gif wink.gif

‘A’ like Advanced, you know...
TBeck
QUOTE (towolf @ Apr 4 2006, 01:12 PM)
QUOTE
Yalac


May I suggest ATAK as a working title? mad.gif wink.gif

‘A’ like Advanced, you know...
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Sounds really good!

But sounds also a bit like ATTAC (Association pour une Taxation des Transactions financières pour l'Aide aux Citoyens).

Sigh...

It seems to be very hard to find some good sounding acronym, which isn't allready in use.

But thanks

Thomas
towolf
QUOTE (TBeck @ Apr 4 2006, 01:25 PM)
It seems to be very hard to find some good sounding acronym, which isn't allready in use.
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Well, and depending on your similarity measure FLAC sounds like gun2.gif
TBeck
QUOTE (towolf @ Apr 4 2006, 01:37 PM)
QUOTE (TBeck @ Apr 4 2006, 01:25 PM)
It seems to be very hard to find some good sounding acronym, which isn't allready in use.
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Well, and depending on your similarity measure FLAC sounds like gun2.gif
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Ok, then i would prefer ATAK. lalala.gif
Latexxx
How bout LAW, Lossless Audio Worker/Weapon/Wizard/WTF..
foosion
Perhaps it isn't such a good idea to force yourself to find an acronym. Given the nature of the thing you are trying to name, you would probably end up using two or more of the letters T (from your name), A (from audio), L (from lossless) and C (from codec). There just isn't such a large variety of acronyms you can form from these without using unusual word orders. I think Tony Robinson deserves credit for not using an acronym to name his format (Shorten).

It might be worth to base the name on something that inspired you, or - this is not a totally serious suggestion wink.gif - after the day you announced it here on Hydrogenaudio: AP1 (after April, 1st). Though if you look at Acronym Finder, even that one is already taken.

Just hoping to loosen up your mind. smile.gif
TBeck
QUOTE (foosion @ Apr 4 2006, 02:23 PM)
Perhaps it isn't such a good idea to force yourself to find an acronym. Given the...

Just hoping to loosen up your mind. smile.gif
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You did. It's a very good hint!

Thomas
halb27
I like the April 1 idea.
How about A1C (April 1 codec)?
shadowking
QUOTE (halb27 @ Apr 4 2006, 04:47 AM)
I like the April 1 idea.
How about A1C (April 1 codec)?
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Cool sounds like some psychedelic drug.
kjoonlee
There are many ways to name things.
  • Acronyms and initialisms. LASER. RADAR. PVC. HTML.
  • Common nouns. Quartz. Cocoa. Opera. Firefox.
  • Compounds. WinZip. WavPack. GetRight. MP3Tag.
  • Proper names. Microsoft Bob. Eudora.
I vote for Crystal. It's transparent. smile.gif
TBeck
QUOTE (kjoonlee @ Apr 5 2006, 07:39 AM)
I vote for Crystal. It's transparent. smile.gif
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That's a great name! I would like it very much! But as usual: Do you know the Crystal video player?

But this one was really nice

Thomas
Shade[ST]
Crystal is taken by more than one piece of software. Here's a trick : google "INSERT_NAME_HERE" download

YAA download is fine.

Crystal download has VST instruments, GM patches and a video player...
TBeck
QUOTE (Shade[ST] @ Apr 5 2006, 07:49 AM)
YAA download is fine.
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Should we delete the posts containing YAA, before someone else "steals" this acronym? crying.gif

Thomas
kjoonlee
I didn't know about that. Then how about Crystal Audio, Diamond, or Aquamarine?
jarsonic
Call it "Clarity."


Crystal Audio is the name of some audio drivers and an audio chipset.
Shade[ST]
http://www.google.com/search?q=clarity+download

(Welcome back, HA)
jarsonic
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Yes, but one is a band, one is a material for braces, and the only software (4 hits down) is teacher software for developing lesson plans and recording class attendance.

I don't think there would be any confusion.
Shade[ST]
Diamond will be wayyyy overtaken. However, I really like Aquamarine, and that one seems free. Plus, it can make a nice logo.

[edit]Actually, ACrystal Encoder would look nice, too[/edit]
towolf
QUOTE (foosion @ Apr 4 2006, 02:23 PM) *
Perhaps it isn't such a good idea to force yourself to find an acronym. Given the nature of the thing you are trying to name, you would probably end up using two or more of the letters T (from your name), A (from audio), L (from lossless) and C (from codec). There just isn't such a large variety of acronyms you can form from these without using unusual word orders. I think Tony Robinson deserves credit for not using an acronym to name his format (Shorten).


Here we go again: Talcum wink.gif

What ‘u’ and ‘m’ stand for is down to your discretion, maybe u = unpublished.

In the end you’re not yet marketing a brand name, do you? Personally, I wouldn't call something I had written “Crystal”. But I would neither call my daughter “Lolita”.
rjamorim
QUOTE (jarsonic @ Apr 5 2006, 04:19 PM) *
Call it "Clarity."

Crystal Audio is the name of some audio drivers and an audio chipset.


SonicFoundry (now Sony) already came up with a technology called Perfect Clarity Audio (PCA) - a lossless codec.
jarsonic
QUOTE (rjamorim @ Apr 6 2006, 10:06 PM) *
QUOTE (jarsonic @ Apr 5 2006, 04:19 PM) *
Call it "Clarity."

Crystal Audio is the name of some audio drivers and an audio chipset.


SonicFoundry (now Sony) already came up with a technology called Perfect Clarity Audio (PCA) - a lossless codec.



Blast!!! wink.gif
archagon
*.ION, perhaps?
How about "Sirena"? (*.SN) (Russian for "siren")

SODA, maybe? (Same Objective -- Different Algorithm)
"Aurora?"
"Borealis?"
pepoluan
Diamantine
MuncherOfSpleens
How about XLACS (Extreme Lossless Audio Compression Scheme)? wink.gif
Shade[ST]
QUOTE (MuncherOfSpleens @ Apr 7 2006, 05:23 PM) *
How about XLACS (Extreme Lossless Audio Compression Scheme)? wink.gif

You've heard of X-LAX, right?
pepoluan
QUOTE (boombaard @ Apr 8 2006, 04:21 AM) *
you can't yet.. i'm fairly sure it'll come soon (within weeks), though smile.gif

anyway, Aquamarine makes for awkward abbreviations (AAC, anyone? tongue.gif), but you could always call it something horribly presumptuous, like (for instance) Mozart's Choice? tongue.gif (seeing how it's his birthyear wink.gif)
Why not just Mozart then?

And why must we use .3 extension? I mean, come on, even Civilization IV (anyone played that game too?) for its savegames use the extension (I'm not making this up) .Civ4SavedGame

So the extension can be .mozart

Hopefully someone does not mistake this as a new graphic file by the makers of Mozilla...
rutra80
Since it's supposed to decode fast, maybe TNT? Or Exploder biggrin.gif
boombaard
QUOTE (pepoluan @ Apr 7 2006, 10:44 PM) *
QUOTE (boombaard @ Apr 8 2006, 04:21 AM) *

you can't yet.. i'm fairly sure it'll come soon (within weeks), though smile.gif

anyway, Aquamarine makes for awkward abbreviations (AAC, anyone? tongue.gif), but you could always call it something horribly presumptuous, like (for instance) Mozart's Choice? tongue.gif (seeing how it's his birthyear wink.gif)
Why not just Mozart then?

And why must we use .3 extension? I mean, come on, even Civilization IV (anyone played that game too?) for its savegames use the extension (I'm not making this up) .Civ4SavedGame

So the extension can be .mozart

Hopefully someone does not mistake this as a new graphic file by the makers of Mozilla...


because 'mozart' as the file extension icw the same name for the codec sux, while 'mozart's choice' is a bit more of a proper statement smile.gif
Liisachan
a too long extension is not preferable, as we'll have to type it in the dos box etc after all,
yalac -d foobarbaz.ext
would be better for lazy users than
yalac -d foobarbaz.longlongext
right?

btw I once wanted the extension .mc2 for another multimedia-related project.
It was taken from Einstein's formula,
connotating "huge power in a small object" and "(as fast as) light speed."
I thought it was cool. altho it was not accepted.
Supacon
Accepted by who (or what)?
Liisachan
QUOTE (Supacon @ Apr 8 2006, 04:03 AM) *
Accepted by who (or what)?

um, it's totally unrelated but since you asked... that was in this poll in 2003.
elmar3rd
Naming? What about Calf, Cala, Oidua Seyknom, Gorf Mitpo or COS (short for "Cedoc Oidua Sselssol")?
Latexxx
QUOTE
' date='Apr 7 2006, 11:40 PM' post='380035']
QUOTE (MuncherOfSpleens @ Apr 7 2006, 05:23 PM) *

How about XLACS (Extreme Lossless Audio Compression Scheme)? wink.gif

You've heard of X-LAX, right?

My vote goes to Xlacs.
boombaard
or you could call it HAc, if the HA site owners wouldn't mind wink.gif
it seems a name as good as any anyway
Eli
QUOTE (halb27 @ Apr 4 2006, 08:47 AM) *
I like the April 1 idea.
How about A1C (April 1 codec)?



Sounds like glycosylated hemoglobin
MuncherOfSpleens
Sorry to drive this thread back off topic, but how does YALE (Yet Another Lossless Encoder) sound?
TBeck
QUOTE (MuncherOfSpleens @ Apr 12 2006, 02:01 AM) *
Sorry to drive this thread back off topic, but how does YALE (Yet Another Lossless Encoder) sound?


It's ok to look for a better name!

I usually dont't respond to posts regarding the naming, because i don't have much time now. But sooner or later i will carefully look through them.

Thomas
Aspirant
how about naming it as AFLA laugh.gif
April Fool's Lossless Audio
lionalex
QUOTE (MuncherOfSpleens @ Apr 7 2006, 10:23 PM) *
How about XLACS (Extreme Lossless Audio Compression Scheme)? wink.gif

or RELACS (Really Efficient Lossless Audio Compression Scheme ?
audiofreak
QUOTE (lionalex @ Apr 19 2006, 07:15 AM) *
QUOTE (MuncherOfSpleens @ Apr 7 2006, 10:23 PM) *

How about XLACS (Extreme Lossless Audio Compression Scheme)? wink.gif

or RELACS (Really Efficient Lossless Audio Compression Scheme ?

or IHABECS (I Have A Big Ego Compression Scheme) ? rolleyes.gif
boombaard
QUOTE (audiofreak @ Apr 19 2006, 03:45 PM) *
QUOTE (lionalex @ Apr 19 2006, 07:15 AM) *

QUOTE (MuncherOfSpleens @ Apr 7 2006, 10:23 PM) *

How about XLACS (Extreme Lossless Audio Compression Scheme)? wink.gif

or RELACS (Really Efficient Lossless Audio Compression Scheme ?

or IHABECS (I Have A Big Ego Compression Scheme) ? rolleyes.gif


..and i was so happy this thread wasn't turning offensive in some way or another
audiofreak
QUOTE (boombaard @ Apr 19 2006, 10:40 AM) *
QUOTE (audiofreak @ Apr 19 2006, 03:45 PM) *

QUOTE (lionalex @ Apr 19 2006, 07:15 AM) *

QUOTE (MuncherOfSpleens @ Apr 7 2006, 10:23 PM) *

How about XLACS (Extreme Lossless Audio Compression Scheme)? wink.gif

or RELACS (Really Efficient Lossless Audio Compression Scheme ?

or IHABECS (I Have A Big Ego Compression Scheme) ? rolleyes.gif


..and i was so happy this thread wasn't turning offensive in some way or another

Tell me who that offended. Naming the codec RELACS while it sounds cool, would sound egotistical.
Shade[ST]
QUOTE (audiofreak @ Apr 19 2006, 12:54 PM) *
QUOTE (boombaard @ Apr 19 2006, 10:40 AM) *

QUOTE (audiofreak @ Apr 19 2006, 03:45 PM) *

QUOTE (lionalex @ Apr 19 2006, 07:15 AM) *

QUOTE (MuncherOfSpleens @ Apr 7 2006, 10:23 PM) *

How about XLACS (Extreme Lossless Audio Compression Scheme)? wink.gif

or RELACS (Really Efficient Lossless Audio Compression Scheme ?

or IHABECS (I Have A Big Ego Compression Scheme) ? rolleyes.gif


..and i was so happy this thread wasn't turning offensive in some way or another

Tell me who that offended. Naming the codec RELACS while it sounds cool, would sound egotistical.

I think YALAC is fine. Is there any point in successive quoting, other than having a massive amount of fun ? tongue.gif
Synthetic Soul
I can't help but think Yalac will stay now.

I still don't like the ALAC connotation, but soon it will seem strange to know it by any other name.

That surely is some ridiculous quoting.
Shade[ST]
QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ Apr 19 2006, 01:16 PM) *
I can't help but think Yalac will stay now.

I still don't like the ALAC connotation, but soon it will seem strange to know it by any other name.

That surely is some ridiculous quoting.

What's important, is how it will be pronounced in the first interview the media will have with its author tongue.gif
kdo
QUOTE
' date='Apr 19 2006, 08:40 PM' post='384172']
What's important, is how it will be pronounced in the first interview the media will have with its author tongue.gif

Then it ought to be simply YAC
(pronounced as "yuck")



or maybe YAK ("Kompressor") with a yak as a logo?
jido
QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ Apr 19 2006, 09:16 AM) *
I can't help but think Yalac will stay now.

How about ALAC (Another Lossless Audio Codec)?


unsure.gif Ok then... Wouldn't help the confusion
wink.gif
I thought of dropping the 'L' instead but Yaac would compete with quite a wide range of things, including a Mac audio converter, a game, a password cracker, a protein and an atomic clock.

There is also a bunch of Young Adult Advisory Centres and other beneficial acronyms as well as some phone software and a breakout game written in Delphi, the language of choice of Yalac. Which brings me to the next subject:

Why couldn't you use Delphi to write a DOS program? It looks like WINCRT is there for this purpose:
http://community.borland.com/soapbox/techv...5,10276,00.html

Also it should compile on Linux if someone has Kylix to do it.
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