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adamjk
QUOTE(G B Rao @ Jun 9 2006, 14:00) *

Given a file encoded with the Nero encoder, is it possible to find out which version of the encoder was used to encode it ?

Open file in Foobar2000 and check properties of file. There will be displayed date of compilation. Even using notepad you can do it using "Find" function (string "nero").
G B Rao
OK, thanks a lot.
elwoodthegreat
Has anyone been able to stream hinted mp4 files created with the nero encoder using Darwin Streaming Server?

The errors I get from Quicktime when connecting is "-5402 Bad Data"
And from VLC I just get "Unable to open"
sven_Bent
the song encodde from tis utiltity seem to get the end cut off by the ipod

The files plays perfectly in winamp.
But wit playback on the ipod, the last couples of seconds or so is missing. (pretty annoying)
i used the following command line

neroAacEnc_sse2.exe -br 128000 -2pass -if i <input file>.wav -of <output file>.m4a
stephanV
It is funny that the same thing happens with LAME...

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=42538
elwoodthegreat
I fixed my problem with nero encoded and hinted mp4 files not being streamed by Darwin Streaming Server.

Although the encoder still has a problem, I just did the encoding without adding hinting and added it with mp4creator.

I hope they fix the encoder so I don't have to use another application to accomplish what the nero encoder claims it does.
Waterfall
Just tried latest Nero Recode. Is there HE v2 option for the soud?

It works for audio encoding. What about video with SBR+PS?
Firon
I've seen a few videos with 5.1 HE-AAC v2, though I don't think the videos were encoded/muxed with Nero. It's possible to do, at least.
LI-Greg

Have the latest ver, and am having difficulty using REACT and the neroaactag app.

REACT file is:


!Description=Tagged FLAC, mp3 and mp4 files with RG album and track tags

!destdir1=@musicdir@\FLAC\$cdartist$\$album$
!destdir2=@musicdir@\MP3\$cdartist$\$album$
!destdir3=@musicdir@\MP4\$cdartist$\$album$
!destdir4=@musicdir@\MP4-Q\$cdartist$\$album$


!dest1=@destdir1@\$track$ - $title$
!dest2=@destdir2@\$track$ - $title$
!dest3=@destdir3@\$track$ - $title$
!dest4=@destdir4@\$track$ - $title$


!Various-dest1=@destdir1@\$track$ - $title$
!Various-dest2=@destdir2@\$track$ - $title$
!Various-dest3=@destdir3@\$track$ - $title$
!Various-dest4=@destdir3@\$track$ - $title$

echo.> "@dest1@.tmp"
@encdir@\Tag.exe --nocheck --ape2 -t "ARTIST=@artist@" -t "ALBUM=@album@" -t "TRACK=@track@" -t "TITLE=@title@" -t "YEAR=@year@" -t "GENRE=@genre@" -t "TOTALTRACKS=@numtracks@" -t "FREEDB=@freedbid@" -t "CRC=@crc@" "@dest1@.tmp"
move "@source@" "@dest1@.wav"

@encdir@\neroAacEnc.exe -q 0.5 -if "@dest1@.wav" -of "@dest3@.mp4"
@encdir@\Neroaactag.exe "@dest3@.mp4" -meta:artist="@artist@" -meta:album="@album@" -meta:track="@track@" -meta:title="@title@" -meta:genre="@genre@" -meta:year="@year@"

@encdir@\neroAacEnc.exe -q 0.95 -if "@dest1@.wav" -of "@dest4@.mp4"
@encdir@\Neroaactag.exe "@dest4@.mp4" -meta:artist="@artist@" -meta:album="@album@" -meta:track="@track@" -meta:title="@title@" -meta:genre="@genre@" -meta:year="@year@"


if @islast@==1 (
move "@eaclog@" "@destdir1@\eaclog.txt"
move "@trackscuesheet@.[*].cue" "@destdir1@"
start @encdir@\albumart.exe "@artist@" "@album@" "@destdir1@\cover.jpg"
cd /d "@destdir1@"
@encdir@\Glob.exe -v -c @encdir@\flac.exe -f -2 -V --replay-gain *.wav
echo @encdir@\Tag.exe --fromfile "%%INPUT_NAME%%.tmp" "%%INPUT_NAME%%.flac" > "encode.bat"
echo @encdir@\lame.exe -V0 -h --vbr-new --scale %%ALBUM_SCALE%% --tc "AG appl:%%ALBUM_GAIN%%,TG:%%TRACK_GAIN%% dB" "%%INPUT_NAME%%.wav" "@destdir2@\%%INPUT_NAME%%.mp3" >> "encode.bat"
echo @encdir@\Tag.exe --fromfile "%%INPUT_NAME%%.tmp" "@destdir2@\%%INPUT_NAME%%.mp3" >> "encode.bat"


echo del "%%INPUT_NAME%%.wav" "%%INPUT_NAME%%.tmp" >> "encode.bat"
@encdir@\WaveGain.exe -a *.wav --exec call "encode.bat"
del "encode.bat"
)


When it finishes, the FLACC and MP3 files are fine, but for the tag info of the mp4 files, I have

title = track title with ".mp4"
artist = track #
track=track #
all rest are blank

any help/suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated.

THANKS!
Gow
Have you tried the setup used in the mp4 REACT config and just modified it from mp4 to m4a?

CODE
@encdir@\neroAacEnc.exe -q 0.5 -if "@source@" -of "@dest1@.m4a"
set compilation=false
if "$cdartist$"=="Various" set compliation=true
@encdir@\AtomicParsley.exe "@dest1@.m4a" --writeBack --compilation %compilation% --artist "@artist@" --album "@album@" --tracknum "@track@/@numtracks@" --title "@title@" --year "@year@" --genre "@genre@" --comment "@comment@; id: @freedbid@"


It works when I tested it with REACT. Also, I would post this question in the REACT thread as it is more related to something Synthetic Soul could answer than Nero.
LI-Greg
QUOTE(Gow @ Jul 4 2006, 19:01) *

Have you tried the setup used in the mp4 REACT config and just modified it from mp4 to m4a?

CODE
@encdir@\neroAacEnc.exe -q 0.5 -if "@source@" -of "@dest1@.m4a"
set compilation=false
if "$cdartist$"=="Various" set compliation=true
@encdir@\AtomicParsley.exe "@dest1@.m4a" --writeBack --compilation %compilation% --artist "@artist@" --album "@album@" --tracknum "@track@/@numtracks@" --title "@title@" --year "@year@" --genre "@genre@" --comment "@comment@; id: @freedbid@"


It works when I tested it with REACT. Also, I would post this question in the REACT thread as it is more related to something Synthetic Soul could answer than Nero.



Yes, I did try the mp4 setup that comes with REACT.

I will try the other forum, thanks!
smile.gif
rbrito
Could we have a native i386/Linux version of the encoder?

For better "logistics" for Ahead/Nero, I think that a statically linked version of the executables would be adequate.

Just for your information, I'm using Debian GNU/Linux testing (etch) on my machine.


Thanks in advance, Rogério.
LI-Greg
QUOTE(LI-Greg @ Jul 4 2006, 21:24) *

QUOTE(Gow @ Jul 4 2006, 19:01) *

Have you tried the setup used in the mp4 REACT config and just modified it from mp4 to m4a?

CODE
@encdir@\neroAacEnc.exe -q 0.5 -if "@source@" -of "@dest1@.m4a"
set compilation=false
if "$cdartist$"=="Various" set compliation=true
@encdir@\AtomicParsley.exe "@dest1@.m4a" --writeBack --compilation %compilation% --artist "@artist@" --album "@album@" --tracknum "@track@/@numtracks@" --title "@title@" --year "@year@" --genre "@genre@" --comment "@comment@; id: @freedbid@"


It works when I tested it with REACT. Also, I would post this question in the REACT thread as it is more related to something Synthetic Soul could answer than Nero.



Yes, I did try the mp4 setup that comes with REACT.

I will try the other forum, thanks!
smile.gif



Actually... this doesn't work either.

If I substitute Atomicparsley with the Neroaactag.exe it works.
When I use AtomicParsley to tag, I get errors on playback as someone else in this thread did.
arpeggio
QUOTE(LI-Greg @ Jul 5 2006, 18:17) *

If I substitute Atomicparsley with the Neroaactag.exe it works.
When I use AtomicParsley to tag, I get errors on playback as someone else in this thread did.


Then why not stick to NeroAacEnc + NeroAacTag ? They're a great couple together.

I also use REACT and all of my M4A config files are with NeroAacEnc + NeroAacTag.
Works like a charm!


LI-Greg
QUOTE(arpeggio @ Jul 5 2006, 12:05) *

QUOTE(LI-Greg @ Jul 5 2006, 18:17) *

If I substitute Atomicparsley with the Neroaactag.exe it works.
When I use AtomicParsley to tag, I get errors on playback as someone else in this thread did.


Then why not stick to NeroAacEnc + NeroAacTag ? They're a great couple together.

I also use REACT and all of my M4A config files are with NeroAacEnc + NeroAacTag.
Works like a charm!


Ah, but that's the issue, when I use NeroAacEnc and Nero AacTag, I get The file name in the title, the track # in the aritist field, and all the rest are blank.

Otherwise, it's great. smile.gif

Gow
QUOTE(LI-Greg @ Jul 5 2006, 14:04) *

Ah, but that's the issue, when I use NeroAacEnc and Nero AacTag, I get The file name in the title, the track # in the aritist field, and all the rest are blank.

Otherwise, it's great. smile.gif



May I suggest an alternative to REACT that I just tried.

Mareo: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....topic=44559&hl=

Works with all the major codecs, mp3, mpc, ogg, aac (iTunes and Nero), wavpack, ape, flac...

Try that out and see if it works better as an all-in-one solution for you.

It can also be setup to be used with more than one CD ripper.

- Gow
LI-Greg
QUOTE(Gow @ Jul 5 2006, 21:50) *

QUOTE(LI-Greg @ Jul 5 2006, 14:04) *

Ah, but that's the issue, when I use NeroAacEnc and Nero AacTag, I get The file name in the title, the track # in the aritist field, and all the rest are blank.

Otherwise, it's great. smile.gif



May I suggest an alternative to REACT that I just tried.

Mareo: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....topic=44559&hl=

Works with all the major codecs, mp3, mpc, ogg, aac (iTunes and Nero), wavpack, ape, flac...

Try that out and see if it works better as an all-in-one solution for you.

It can also be setup to be used with more than one CD ripper.

- Gow



Just when I was getting the hang of REACT.

LOL

but thanks, I will give it a try.
smile.gif

rbrito
QUOTE(Ivan Dimkovic @ May 4 2006, 11:44) *

Linux is actually on the way wink.gif


Hi there, Ivan & Co.

I know that the post above is is more than two months ago, and, just as a reminder smile.gif , could you release a Linux version, which, like you said, "is on the way"? smile.gif


Thanks, Rogério.
Garf
QUOTE(rbrito @ Jul 8 2006, 11:45) *
QUOTE(Ivan Dimkovic @ May 4 2006, 11:44) *

Linux is actually on the way wink.gif


Hi there, Ivan & Co.

I know that the post above is is more than two months ago, and, just as a reminder smile.gif , could you release a Linux version, which, like you said, "is on the way"? smile.gif


Thanks, Rogério.


Each time someone whines, programmer motivation for this particular project drops wink.gif
rbrito
QUOTE(Garf @ Jul 8 2006, 07:51) *

QUOTE(rbrito @ Jul 8 2006, 11:45) *
QUOTE(Ivan Dimkovic @ May 4 2006, 11:44) *

Linux is actually on the way wink.gif

[Ivan] (...) could you release a Linux version, which, like you said, "is on the way"? smile.gif


Each time someone whines, programmer motivation for this particular project drops wink.gif


The real intention of that post was not to be interpreted as someone "whining".

I was, more likely, thinking that my post would be interpreted as "hi, Nero folk, your product has attracted the attention of people not only from the Windows world, but also from other Operating Systems (*nix, MacOS X etc)".

Hope this clears any potential confusion that my previous message might have generated.


Regards, Rogério.
Jebus
This is a fantastic tool, thanks so much for your work!

I have noticed a potential bug...

Using just "-q 0.5" (or nothing at all) should provide a low-complexity file, around 160 kbit/s. At least this is what iTunes says I'm getting.

Using "-q 0.5 -lc" seems to be giving a file at around 220 kbit/s! Why is it any different? Aren't they both LC profile?
haregoo
@Jebus

This is intentional design. Check this post.
jimmy69
Just wondering how everyone finds out what the command lines are for different codecs. I just can't figure out what im meant to type. The main reason I would like to know what to do is because I coudn't encode into the new nero aac using eac.
LaserSokrates
In most cases, it is
CODE
path/to/your/encoder --help
or
CODE
path/to/your/encoder -help
at least when on *nix, on Win, it's similiar, but with backslashes.
arpeggio
QUOTE(jimmy69 @ Jul 13 2006, 13:53) *

Just wondering how everyone finds out what the command lines are for different codecs. I just can't figure out what im meant to type. The main reason I would like to know what to do is because I coudn't encode into the new nero aac using eac.

If you want NeroAac to do both encoding and tagging, you should do the following:

Be sure to have <NeroAacEnc.exe> and <NeroAacTag.exe> in the C:\Program Files\Exact Audio Copy folder. You may have your own preferences to store these files, then change the program paths in de codes accordingly.

Select User Defined Encoder and point the path for the encoder to C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe
Set file extension to .m4a

In the commandline box you should enter
CODE
/c C:\"Program Files\Exact Audio Copy"\Nero\neroaacenc.exe -q 0.5 -if %s -of %d && C:\"Program Files\Exact Audio Copy"\Nero\neroaactag.exe %d -meta:artist="%a" -meta:album="%g" -meta:track="%n" -meta:title="%t" -meta:genre="%m" -meta:year="%y"


You should be careful with quotes in the program paths. If the program path contains spaces, you have to put this part of the program path between quotes. <cmd.exe> needs thie quotes in the right place otherwise it will not work.

The commandline above will produce .m4a files with a quality level -q 0.5 You may change this number to your needs.

Cheers!

woody_woodward
I finally got around to checking out this encoder. I could not believe my ears regarding how good the sound was. This has been my first experience with this format. Why, oh why, isn't there more hardware and software support for this format? I've been sticking with MP3 because it plays on everything, everywhere. But now.... As Jimmy Carter would say "I have lust in my heart."

Jebus
QUOTE(woody_woodward @ Jul 18 2006, 16:20) *

I finally got around to checking out this encoder. I could not believe my ears regarding how good the sound was. This has been my first experience with this format. Why, oh why, isn't there more hardware and software support for this format? I've been sticking with MP3 because it plays on everything, everywhere. But now.... As Jimmy Carter would say "I have lust in my heart."


Probably because, as you put it, everyone has been sticking to MP3. Anyhow - get an iPod!
optimus
As this is not an open source encoder, I really hope there are can be more builds for various CPUs (esp. build for AthlonXP). wink.gif
bubka
QUOTE(optimus @ Jul 21 2006, 12:22) *

As this is not an open source encoder, I really hope there are can be more builds for various CPUs (esp. build for AthlonXP). wink.gif

doesn't later AthlongXPs support SSE2?

or are those just the first K8s

optimus: nice work on mediacoder, keep up the avi to dvd mpeg2 conversion, it seems to be a pretty fast transcoder so far!!!
Jebus
QUOTE(bubka @ Jul 21 2006, 10:10) *

QUOTE(optimus @ Jul 21 2006, 12:22) *

As this is not an open source encoder, I really hope there are can be more builds for various CPUs (esp. build for AthlonXP). wink.gif

doesn't later AthlongXPs support SSE2?

or are those just the first K8s

optimus: nice work on mediacoder, keep up the avi to dvd mpeg2 conversion, it seems to be a pretty fast transcoder so far!!!


Athlon XP added SSE (vs vanilla Athlon), but it was the first Athlon 64s that included SSE2.
Garf
QUOTE(optimus @ Jul 21 2006, 19:22) *
As this is not an open source encoder, I really hope there are can be more builds for various CPUs (esp. build for AthlonXP). wink.gif


Just use the non-SSE2 build.
Sagittaire
QUOTE(Garf @ Jul 23 2006, 00:51) *


Just use the non-SSE2 build.


Your non-SSE build is buggy: lc, he, hev2 switch doesn't work with all RC mode (quality, bitrate, 2 pass). The output file is always he-aac output.
Garf
QUOTE

Your non-SSE build is buggy: lc, he, hev2 switch doesn't work with all RC mode (quality, bitrate, 2 pass). The output file is always he-aac output.


Cannot reproduce / user error.

Please provide more information.
Maurits
QUOTE(Sagittaire @ Jul 31 2006, 12:16) *


Your non-SSE build is buggy: lc, he, hev2 switch doesn't work with all RC mode (quality, bitrate, 2 pass). The output file is always he-aac output.

IIRC there is a bug in the latest Foobar Final reporting many AAC files as HE-AAC, even if they aren't. It's fixed in the beta's.

How did you test it?
Sagittaire
QUOTE(Garf @ Jul 31 2006, 07:32) *

QUOTE

Your non-SSE build is buggy: lc, he, hev2 switch doesn't work with all RC mode (quality, bitrate, 2 pass). The output file is always he-aac output.


Cannot reproduce / user error.

Please provide more information.


I found the problem:

CoreAAC detect always AAC+SBR stream but libfaad2 detect correct stream type (lc, he or hev2)

It's really curious because CoreAAC detect correctly LC or HE with
- your previous version of neroAacEnc.exe
- your old Nero AAC encoder and all the other AAC encoder (QuickTime, Faac, winamp ... etc etc)
menno
QUOTE(Sagittaire @ Aug 1 2006, 09:34) *

QUOTE(Garf @ Jul 31 2006, 07:32) *

QUOTE

Your non-SSE build is buggy: lc, he, hev2 switch doesn't work with all RC mode (quality, bitrate, 2 pass). The output file is always he-aac output.


Cannot reproduce / user error.

Please provide more information.


I found the problem:

CoreAAC detect always AAC+SBR stream but libfaad2 detect correct stream type (lc, he or hev2)

It's really curious because CoreAAC detect correctly LC or HE with
- your previous version of neroAacEnc.exe
- your old Nero AAC encoder and all the other AAC encoder (QuickTime, Faac, winamp ... etc etc)


FAAD2 handles the extended audioSpecificConfig incorrectly.
Artefacto
I replaced the May 1 build and regretted it:

CODE

C:\Programas\allow\Exact Audio Copy>naac -lc -br 140 -2pass -if "X:\ARQ\Strappin
g Young Lad - City [1997]\Strapping Young Lad - 01 - Velvet Kevorkian.wav" -of "
X:\ARQ\Strapping Young Lad - City [1997]\Strapping Young Lad - 01 - Velvet Kevor
kian.mp4"
*************************************************************
* *
* Nero Digital Audio Reference MPEG-4 & 3GPP Audio Encoder *
* Copyright © 2006 Nero AG *
* All Rights Reserved Worldwide *
* *
* Package build date: May 26 2006 *
* *
* See -help for a complete list of available parameters. *
* *
*************************************************************

First pass: processed 76 seconds...
ERROR: could not open AAC encoder

C:\Programas\allow\Exact Audio Copy>naac -lc -br 140 -if "X:\ARQ\Strapping Young
Lad - City [1997]\Strapping Young Lad - 01 - Velvet Kevorkian.wav" -of "X:\ARQ\
Strapping Young Lad - City [1997]\Strapping Young Lad - 01 - Velvet Kevorkian.mp
4"
*************************************************************
* *
* Nero Digital Audio Reference MPEG-4 & 3GPP Audio Encoder *
* Copyright © 2006 Nero AG *
* All Rights Reserved Worldwide *
* *
* Package build date: May 26 2006 *
* *
* See -help for a complete list of available parameters. *
* *
*************************************************************

ERROR: could not open AAC encoder

C:\Programas\allow\Exact Audio Copy>naac -lc -q 0.3 -if "X:\ARQ\Strapping Young
Lad - City [1997]\Strapping Young Lad - 01 - Velvet Kevorkian.wav" -of "X:\ARQ\S
trapping Young Lad - City [1997]\Strapping Young Lad - 01 - Velvet Kevorkian.mp4
"
*************************************************************
* *
* Nero Digital Audio Reference MPEG-4 & 3GPP Audio Encoder *
* Copyright © 2006 Nero AG *
* All Rights Reserved Worldwide *
* *
* Package build date: May 26 2006 *
* *
* See -help for a complete list of available parameters. *
* *
*************************************************************

ERROR: Could not create temporary file
-----> (comment) There was a correct output file though

C:\Programas\allow\Exact Audio Copy>naac -br 140 -2pass -if "X:\ARQ\Strapping Yo
ung Lad - City [1997]\Strapping Young Lad - 01 - Velvet Kevorkian.wav" -of "X:\A
RQ\Strapping Young Lad - City [1997]\Strapping Young Lad - 01 - Velvet Kevorkian
.mp4"
*************************************************************
* *
* Nero Digital Audio Reference MPEG-4 & 3GPP Audio Encoder *
* Copyright © 2006 Nero AG *
* All Rights Reserved Worldwide *
* *
* Package build date: May 26 2006 *
* *
* See -help for a complete list of available parameters. *
* *
*************************************************************

ERROR: no valid SBR configuration found
Garf
QUOTE(Artefacto @ Aug 9 2006, 04:05) *
I replaced the May 1 build and regretted it:


Why? I am sure the May 1 version fails in a similar way.

The error is the user not reading the manual.
shackbu
Select User Defined Encoder and point the path for the encoder to C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe
Set file extension to .m4a

In the commandline box you should enter
CODE
/c C:\"Program Files\Exact Audio Copy"\Nero\neroaacenc.exe -q 0.5 -if %s -of %d && C:\"Program Files\Exact Audio Copy"\Nero\neroaactag.exe %d -meta:artist="%a" -meta:album="%g" -meta:track="%n" -meta:title="%t" -meta:genre="%m" -meta:year="%y"




I am using the command line specified above which appears to produce the file correctly; however the file has not tags and when I try to play it with foobar 0.9.1 i get the following error:

CODE
Unable to open item for playback (Error parsing MP4 file : invalid or missing mvhd data):


followed by the path to the file.

Any ideas for a relative noob?

Thanks
Artefacto
QUOTE(Garf @ Aug 9 2006, 06:10) *

QUOTE(Artefacto @ Aug 9 2006, 04:05) *
I replaced the May 1 build and regretted it:


Why? I am sure the May 1 version fails in a similar way.

The error is the user not reading the manual.


I'm afraid that comment wasn't particularly useful. By manual do you mean "-help"? I had a foobar diskwrite preset (2 pass) that used to work. I didn't use it for a while and it's possible that something was accidentally changed in the interim, but I definitely don't get this "ERROR: could not open AAC encoder", esp when it works anyway...
rootkit
QUOTE
neroaacenc -if mvi.wav -of mvi.mp4 -he -q 0.15
*************************************************************
* *
* Nero Digital Audio Reference MPEG-4 & 3GPP Audio Encoder *
* Copyright © 2006 Nero AG *
* All Rights Reserved Worldwide *
* *
* Package build date: May 26 2006 *
* *
* See -help for a complete list of available parameters. *
* *
*************************************************************

Assertion failed: (m_size <= (u_int64_t)0xFFFFFFFF), file .\mp4atom.cpp, line 712

This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way.
Please contact the application's support team for more information.
riderforever
QUOTE(shackbu @ Aug 10 2006, 01:20) *

Select User Defined Encoder and point the path for the encoder to C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe
Set file extension to .m4a

In the commandline box you should enter
CODE
/c C:\"Program Files\Exact Audio Copy"\Nero\neroaacenc.exe -q 0.5 -if %s -of %d && C:\"Program Files\Exact Audio Copy"\Nero\neroaactag.exe %d -meta:artist="%a" -meta:album="%g" -meta:track="%n" -meta:title="%t" -meta:genre="%m" -meta:year="%y"




I am using the command line specified above which appears to produce the file correctly; however the file has not tags and when I try to play it with foobar 0.9.1 i get the following error:

CODE
Unable to open item for playback (Error parsing MP4 file : invalid or missing mvhd data):


followed by the path to the file.

Any ideas for a relative noob?

Thanks



Same problem for me. I'm using EAC with those options, and when I try to open the m4a with foobar 0.9.3.1 I got ->

CODE
Unable to open item for playback (Data truncated)


Notice that if I use Foobar to convert a wav into a m4a using neroAacEnc I can play it with success, and that the file which Foobar can't open can be played by iTunes without any problem.

Is there a bug in foobar, maybe? huh.gif


foosion
Please make sure that EAC is not configured to write ID3v2 tags to the converted files.
riderforever
there was the "Add ID3 tag" option selected! shock1.gif lalala.gif

now it works fine!
Thank you foosion, you're the man cool.gif
rmittal
Hi, I just downloaded the neroAacEnc encoder and used it to encode (transcode) some music files (which was previously encoded to mp3 (lame) with the option as V0 (320kbs vbr)) with the Q=0.5 switch.

I have two questions regarding neroAacEnc :-

First one is that what would be better for transcoding the above files (I want to transfer them to my walkman phone so want to save some space and I don't have the looseless format of the above) lame with the option V2 (original encoding with LAME) or neroAacEnc with the option Q=0.5 as both of them give roughly the same files sizes.

My second question is when I encode a file using neroAacEnc with option Q=0.5, I get a resulting bitrate of 175kbps for a particular file. Now if I again encode the original file with the option ABR 2 pass encoding with the bitrate of 175kbps, will both the encoded file have the same quality, if not which file should sound better.

Thanks.
jarsonic
QUOTE(rmittal @ Sep 6 2006, 03:06) *

Hi, I just downloaded the neroAacEnc encoder and used it to encode (transcode) some music files (which was previously encoded to mp3 (lame) with the option as V0 (320kbs vbr)) with the Q=0.5 switch.

I have two questions regarding neroAacEnc :-

First one is that what would be better for transcoding the above files (I want to transfer them to my walkman phone so want to save some space and I don't have the looseless format of the above) lame with the option V2 (original encoding with LAME) or neroAacEnc with the option Q=0.5 as both of them give roughly the same files sizes.

My second question is when I encode a file using neroAacEnc with option Q=0.5, I get a resulting bitrate of 175kbps for a particular file. Now if I again encode the original file with the option ABR 2 pass encoding with the bitrate of 175kbps, will both the encoded file have the same quality, if not which file should sound better.

Thanks.


the Q settings use the psymodel to get consistant quality throughout the song at varying bitrates. 2-pass encoding with a -Q switch is pointless and should not be used. Where 2-pass encoding IS useful, however, if when going for a certain bitrate using the -br switch. However, while the bitrate will average around your chosen value, the quality will vary. Going with a -Q switch will give you theoretically better quality; whether you can tell the difference is another story. smile.gif
rmittal
Any answers for my first question.

Thanks
stephanV
I think you will have to try that out for yourself. There is not many supporting evidence that either one would be better for transcoding.
jarsonic
QUOTE(rmittal @ Sep 7 2006, 02:42) *

Any answers for my first question.

Thanks


I have an iPod, so I personally would use Nero AAC. However, MP3 is more compatable across the board with all kinds of players, and recent listening tests show that the quality of AAC and LAME MP3 at portable-type bitrates are rather comparable at this point in time. Not sure if there's much evidence right now which format is "better" for transcoding. Just give both a try with your ears and see which one you like more. They should honestly be rather interchangable at the bitrates you're going for.
rmittal
I think I will use Nero AAC for the time being.

Anyway thanks to all who helped.
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