Hydrogenaudio Forums > iPod manager

senab

Jan 15 2007, 16:26

I have a current library on my iPod, with iTunes Soundcheck calculation in the files. Is there anyway I can convert the files and iTunesDB with the RG values in the files instead?

musicmusic

Jan 15 2007, 17:13

QUOTE(2Pacalypse @ Jan 11 2007, 09:32)

QUOTE(2Pacalypse @ Jan 4 2007, 12:41)

how can i tag my music to be displayed as compilations on my ipod?

i tried tagging %compliation% to '1'

bump

anybody?

foo_dop doesn't mark anything as "part of a compilation" currently. I don't think I can base it of ALBUM ARTIST since e.g. greatest hits is a compilation. So I will add support for it, but not sure how yet.

QUOTE(laowai @ Jan 12 2007, 00:11)

Hey musicmusic, thanks for your advice. I am using fb2k v0.9.4.2 with MP3 preferred writing scheme set to ID3v2, writer "compatibility mode" is on (for iTunes). The tag name is "UNSYNCED LYRICS" (for MP3 files). The problem is related only to the songs that are already on the ipod. The ipod will start showing the tags, but only after the lyrics was read by iTunes once. It seems to me like iTunes changes the database record for the title to indicate the presence of the tag. Also the tags are perfectly displayed in all songs if they are added through iTunes.
I think I need something that would rescan the ipod database from files. I thought that foo_dop should do that? I've tried using "Reload ipod library metadata from files", but as I said no luck.

What version of foo_dop are you using?

QUOTE(alphaex32 @ Jan 13 2007, 20:25)

I was just wondering if it would be possible to get tracks to show up under more than one genre in the ipod database. I don't the format of the ipod database, so I'm not sure if a song can only be classified under one genre. If not, could you try to have foo_dop recognize when there are mutliple genre tags? Same question for artist and composer.

I don't believe it is actually possible (in that the iPod or iTunes wouldn't expect to see that in a database)

foo_dop should by default just concatenate the multiple values (comma separated).

laowai

Jan 15 2007, 19:04

QUOTE(musicmusic @ Jan 16 2007, 00:13)

QUOTE(laowai @ Jan 12 2007, 00:11)

Hey musicmusic, thanks for your advice. I am using fb2k v0.9.4.2 with MP3 preferred writing scheme set to ID3v2, writer "compatibility mode" is on (for iTunes). The tag name is "UNSYNCED LYRICS" (for MP3 files). The problem is related only to the songs that are already on the ipod. The ipod will start showing the tags, but only after the lyrics was read by iTunes once. It seems to me like iTunes changes the database record for the title to indicate the presence of the tag. Also the tags are perfectly displayed in all songs if they are added through iTunes.
I think I need something that would rescan the ipod database from files. I thought that foo_dop should do that? I've tried using "Reload ipod library metadata from files", but as I said no luck.

What version of foo_dop are you using?

Foobar shows that I am using foo_dop version "0.3.8 TEST".

DemonCleaner

Jan 22 2007, 19:12

Hey.. great plugin. Glad to be less reliant on itunes.... though I may have missed something, how do you "eject" your ipod after you're done transfering songs? I plug it in, and the screen tells me "do not disconnect" I upload songs, then I open itunes and press the eject button. It'd be nice to skip that last step.

Thanks!

So long iTunes, I hardly knew ye...

Slotos

Jan 23 2007, 02:55

Use windows "Safe removal" feature from systray.

In fact "ejection" is merely unmounting (or removing disk letter/ntfs folder association), to prevent iPod usage when disconnecting. Safe removal makes the same + disconnects the device.

robaer

Jan 26 2007, 03:50

"Safe removal" is ok, but I'd love to see an "Eject iPod" in the iPod menu. But perhaps it will be implemented in the future.

2Pacalypse

Jan 26 2007, 05:06

QUOTE(robaer @ Jan 26 2007, 09:50)

"Safe removal" is ok, but I'd love to see an "Eject iPod" in the iPod menu. But perhaps it will be implemented in the future.

Its been requested before and is in the to do list.

http://yuo.be/wiki/dop:start

ShadowVlican

Jan 26 2007, 18:49

QUOTE(musicmusic @ Dec 30 2006, 03:35)

Your welcome

Now to anyone who wants Shuffle support, I wouldn't mind a backup of the iTunes\iPod_Control folder of a Shuffle that has only been used with iTunes (it should compress well with 7-Zip). Thanks!

YGPM

Galova

Jan 27 2007, 15:43

QUOTE

I'm not sure you understood what I meant..

Why? I understood it quite well

And also I've tried the announced test version with my iPod Shuffle and it works! Its functionality is limited as its said to be, but all implemented things work just fine. Thank you! I'm looking forward to upcoming things.

flashover

Jan 28 2007, 00:54

+1 to album art

gr33dy

Jan 29 2007, 01:07

Does anyone know if this causes any problems if used with Anapod Explorer? (I know that iTunes and Anapod Explorer have problems when one is used after the other.)

Thanks.

ShadowVlican

Jan 31 2007, 15:50

QUOTE(gr33dy @ Jan 29 2007, 02:07)

Does anyone know if this causes any problems if used with Anapod Explorer? (I know that iTunes and Anapod Explorer have problems when one is used after the other.)

Thanks.

i guess it's best to stick with ONE program

i know my shuffle messes up when i use itunes and winamp... so i only use itunes to update/restore and use winamp to upload music

copperblue

Feb 1 2007, 11:41

QUOTE(gr33dy @ Jan 29 2007, 07:07)

Does anyone know if this causes any problems if used with Anapod Explorer? (I know that iTunes and Anapod Explorer have problems when one is used after the other.)

Thanks.

Previously having used Anapod didn't cause any problems when I switched to foo_dop, but subsequently with my iPod prepped from a blank state with foo_dop Anapod doesn't recognise the iPod.

crapple33

Feb 3 2007, 18:29

Can I use this to organize my albums by year on the iPod, like you can with foo_pod?

Early

Feb 3 2007, 20:56

QUOTE(crapple33 @ Feb 3 2007, 18:29)

Can I use this to organize my albums by year on the iPod, like you can with foo_pod?

You can remap the composer field to date, and browse the ipod by date. I dunno how it was before because foo_pod was before my time.

musicmusic

Feb 5 2007, 13:52

Okay, 0.3.9 TEST released. This adds support for sending MP4 videos to your iPod. Please see wiki for more info.

Zurman

Feb 5 2007, 17:49

Does this plugin work with Ipod Nano 2nd generation (8Gb) ?

sumozerg

Feb 5 2007, 19:06

thank you for this great plugin musicmusic, i only have one question. will there ever be gapless support?

gr33dy

Feb 5 2007, 23:21

QUOTE(musicmusic @ Feb 5 2007, 14:52)

Okay, 0.3.9 TEST released. This adds support for sending MP4 videos to your iPod. Please see wiki for more info.

Great Work!

Thank you very much for this!

QUOTE(crapple33 @ Feb 3 2007, 19:29)

Can I use this to organize my albums by year on the iPod, like you can with foo_pod?

This would be an awesome feature!

2Pacalypse

Feb 6 2007, 03:26

QUOTE(musicmusic @ Feb 5 2007, 19:52)

Okay, 0.3.9 TEST released. This adds support for sending MP4 videos to your iPod. Please see wiki for more info.

Had a quick test last night, it works fine

Now i just have to find a command line converter. Any1 know one?

PokéParadox

Feb 6 2007, 09:12

Unfortunately I get a crash since updating to this version...

EDIT: I think my foobar2000 installation has managed to become corrupt somehow... it doesn't seem to be the plugin that is causing the crash, not sure though. ICK

musicmusic

Feb 6 2007, 14:17

QUOTE(sumozerg @ Feb 6 2007, 01:06)

thank you for this great plugin musicmusic, i only have one question. will there ever be gapless support?

I was planning to work on gapless support for MP3s for next version. MP4s maybe more difficult.

There has also been a bug where files transcoded by foo_dop may not play until the end of the track on the iPod. It is fixed for next version, I think a "relead iPod library info.." should clear it up for now.

QUOTE(2Pacalypse @ Feb 6 2007, 09:26)

QUOTE(musicmusic @ Feb 5 2007, 19:52)

Okay, 0.3.9 TEST released. This adds support for sending MP4 videos to your iPod. Please see wiki for more info.

Had a quick test last night, it works fine

Now i just have to find a command line converter. Any1 know one?

I know of ffmpeg. I will play around with it when I get some time and put info on wiki if I get some decent results. But note foo_dop doesn't transcode videos.

2Pacalypse

Feb 6 2007, 17:10

QUOTE(musicmusic @ Feb 6 2007, 20:17)

I know of ffmpeg. I will play around with it when I get some time and put info on wiki if I get some decent results. But note foo_dop doesn't transcode videos.

Don't expect you to add a transcoder sure it would be a lot of hard work. Would be nice if some1 can find a Command line converter to use with foo_run tho. Had a quick look at handbrake think it will do the trick, im just a bit busy to play with it now. thanks for all the hard work

2Pacalypse

Feb 8 2007, 12:49

musicmusic, is there any way to access the plugins commands from a batch file? ie send to iPod? i'm hoping similar to stop eg foobar.exe command/stop

i got the command line converter working with foo_run using ffmpeg (thanks for the heads up musicmusic) if any1 interested:

C:\ffmpeg\ffmpeg.exe -vcodec xvid -b 350 -qmax 10 -bufsize 4096 -g 300 -acodec aac -ab 96 -i "%path%" -s 320x240 -aspect 4:3 H:\%filename%.mp4

b = bitrate
i = file to be converted
s = resolution
ab = audio bitrate (i think)

Galova

Feb 9 2007, 14:56

QUOTE

Its been requested before and is in the to do list.

Would you be so kind and publish some sort of such a "to do" and "done" list?

Shade[ST]

Feb 9 2007, 15:02

QUOTE(Galova @ Feb 9 2007, 15:56)

QUOTE

Its been requested before and is in the to do list.

Would you be so kind and publish some sort of such a "to do" and "done" list?

... yuo.be :: foo_dop wiki

Moofar

Feb 10 2007, 22:48

I love this plugin. It's been an extremely needed addition for many people including myself. Not sure if this is on your list but I will mention it. It converts the rating info into the itunes database when tracks are put on the ipod (nice feature), however it does not put that data back or display it when you do "load library". What I'm looking for is basically a way that I can add a rating to new music on my ipod, then transfer that rating to the copy of the file on my computer. If anyone has any solutions for the interim while this plugin is being developed, please let me know.

iElectric

Feb 12 2007, 10:11

I've been using this plugin since it's begining of development (musicmusic, you have done a extensive work here, thank you)..

I know you have a lot to do and some bugs to fix, but transcode to mp3 (in my case from FLAC) is really needed. Do you have plans for it in near future?

drbeachboy

Feb 12 2007, 12:19

QUOTE(iElectric @ Feb 12 2007, 11:11)

I know you have a lot to do and some bugs to fix, but transcode to mp3 (in my case from FLAC) is really needed. Do you have plans for it in near future?

I transcode from FLAC to MP3 with no problems. Use this inside iPod Manager: Command: lame.exe -V 2 --vbr-new - %d and Extension: mp3

This is assuming that you have lame.exe in the foobar2000 directory. Add your own path to lame.exe if it is different.

Good luck!

splint3r

Feb 15 2007, 00:56

Hi musicmusic,

Thanks for adding the transcoder, Ive only just started using it but i've had no problems so far.

I was wondering if it should be possible to access "Send to iPod" from the command line, i tried foobar2000.exe "/playing_command:Send to iPod" but it didnt work. The ipod actions on the main menu do work from the command line.

iElectric

Feb 15 2007, 15:43

@drbeachboy

Nice! Thanks. Makes this plugin even more perfect. I silently hope for last.fm intergration someday, but nothing "very wanted"

Galova

Feb 17 2007, 07:11

Is it possible to add an aac transcoder? It seems to be a native format to iPod. It can be done using the free Nero AAC, used by foobar transcoder by default.

2Pacalypse

Feb 17 2007, 08:55

QUOTE(Galova @ Feb 17 2007, 13:11)

Is it possible to add an aac transcoder? It seems to be a native format to iPod. It can be done using the free Nero AAC, used by foobar transcoder by default.

correct me if im wrong, but i believe foo_dop doesnt include a transcoder as such it just executes an exe transcoder therefore if u find a acc command line trancoder (a single exe trancoder for acc) if would be able to do the covertion for u.

@musicmusic - small request. On uploading a new playlist could u set it to resort the playlists on the iPod by name. Currently they are just ammended on the bottom.

PokéParadox

Feb 27 2007, 14:26

Well Nero free won't work since the CMDline encoder needs to support pipes...

Well done musicmusic... The plugin now has enough features for me to not have to have iTunes... the only thing missing now is album art assigning.

Just a question to all the foo_doppers... Is it safe to update my iPod Video's firmware? Is it needed? Will it break compatibility with foo_dop? I think I'm still on my original FW version...

drbeachboy

Feb 27 2007, 15:21

QUOTE(PokéParadox @ Feb 27 2007, 15:26)

Well Nero free won't work since the CMDline encoder needs to support pipes...

Well done musicmusic... The plugin now has enough features for me to not have to have iTunes... the only thing missing now is album art assigning.

Just a question to all the foo_doppers... Is it safe to update my iPod Video's firmware? Is it needed? Will it break compatibility with foo_dop? I think I'm still on my original FW version...

Nero works fine for me using "neroAacEnc_sse2 -q 0.50 -ignorelength -if - -of %d" in the Conversion area of iPod Manager in Preferences.

PokéParadox

Feb 28 2007, 02:59

Interesting...

Oh well I'm wrong then...

Ignite339

Feb 28 2007, 23:20

Has anyone tested this on the 5.5 gen iPod Video yet? I'm thinking of buying one of those, and wanted to know if the plugin works with it.

Shade[ST]

Feb 28 2007, 23:40

QUOTE(Ignite339 @ Mar 1 2007, 00:20)

Has anyone tested this on the 5.5 gen iPod Video yet? I'm thinking of buying one of those, and wanted to know if the plugin works with it.

Just fine, expect for the sorting.

Dahu

Mar 3 2007, 08:25

Thanks for the plugin musicmusic,

I've just tested 0.3.9 today and it works great for transferring the music to my IPod shuffle

I have a little feature request, it would be nice to have a functionnality that fills my ipod with songs taken randomly from a playlist. For the time being I do it manually:

Remove the songs from the ipod
Randomize the source playlist
Take the first 120 songs of the playlist and send them to the ipod

PS: I admit I haven't read the full thread so forgive me if the request has already been made before.

iElectric

Mar 3 2007, 13:28

I use 5.5G iPod and i noticed some things.

- when transcoding files to mp3 with cmd "lame.exe -V 2 --vbr-new - %d", a lot of files don't get transfered, all of my files were the same song "soad - byob". I don't know the reason but i can bug test it for you if you don't have an idea.

-when sending new playlists to ipod, it doesn't sort them, just adds them at the end of the list.

- Last.fm compatibility is still one of my wishes (and one of other's too)

btw: 5.5g, 80gb works like a charm

Slotos

Mar 5 2007, 03:14

Report:
1. After operations with iPod playlists (no sure about any operation) all smart playlists become broken. I.e. "My Top Rated" is limited to number of songs it had when foobar made changes. Running and closing iTunes helps but installing iTunes just for that reason…

2. Also after any file operations with iPod "On-the-Go" playlist becomes regular playlist and is renamed to "On-the-Go 1/2/3/…" Somewhat irritating.

PS: But anyway, thanks for the great plugin. Saved me plenty of HDD space with it's transcoder

Using iPod Video 80Gb

musicmusic

Mar 5 2007, 08:48

QUOTE(iElectric @ Mar 3 2007, 19:28)

I use 5.5G iPod and i noticed some things.

- when transcoding files to mp3 with cmd "lame.exe -V 2 --vbr-new - %d", a lot of files don't get transfered, all of my files were the same song "soad - byob". I don't know the reason but i can bug test it for you if you don't have an idea.

What error do you get? If none it should be on your iPod somewhere.

If you are sending the same file (same path) multiple times in one pass it will only send it once.

Also bear in mind on newer iPods if you have an artist with one album and some tracks with no album, you won't be able to browse to the tracks with no album from the Artists menu on the iPod. You can use the remappings to get around that e.g. $if2(%album%,'('None')') for album. That will be the default one day.

QUOTE(Slotos @ Mar 5 2007, 09:14)

Report:
1. After operations with iPod playlists (no sure about any operation) all smart playlists become broken. I.e. "My Top Rated" is limited to number of songs it had when foobar made changes. Running and closing iTunes helps but installing iTunes just for that reason…

I don't quite understand. You mean the playlists become 'forzen', or something else?

If you could send me the iTunesDB with the smart playlists working OK I can look into it. Thanks.

QUOTE(Slotos @ Mar 5 2007, 09:14)

2. Also after any file operations with iPod "On-the-Go" playlist becomes regular playlist and is renamed to "On-the-Go 1/2/3/…" Somewhat irritating.

Yes, but iTunes does the same.

brendo

Mar 6 2007, 03:45

Just got a 30GB 5.5gen iPod and having trouble getting foo_dop to work.

I used 0.3.9TEST and basically just plugged in iPod and hit synchronise iPod (latest firmware) running Foobar 0.9.4.2. When I go to play my music on the iPod it just skips the tracks and then exits back to the main screen.

Moofar

Mar 6 2007, 22:12

I noticed there is a new version coming out. I just want to say I still love this plugin and check on its development regularly even though there usually isn't anything going on. Most usefull plugin in all of foobar. My only wish is for a feature to transfer ratings from the ipod database to ratings in metadata (id3 n stuff). That way I could use the rating feature on the ipod for real.

Early

Mar 13 2007, 21:21

Hi musicmusic. I wanted to pass on the news that itunes 7.1 has changed the itunesdb file. The issue popped up on the ml_ipod forum link, and I thought that foo_dop may be affected as well. Me, I have no intention of installing itunes, but surely there are some who will.

Best,
M

edit: nevermind, pardon, I should have looked at the changelog first. You already know about it.

Ignite339

Mar 14 2007, 18:12

Awesome plugin, I've said it before in this thread

Just wanted to know if there was this certain feature. I use the Synchronize feature, and I sync a playlist to the iPod. I do use iTunes, but only to put videos, pictures, and podcasts onto the iPod. Now, every time I sync the iPod with foo_dop, it deletes all my videos. I know why this is (the video files aren't in the sync list) but is there anyway I can get around this? I know there is video support but unfortunately it doesn't work too well for me

Thanks again musicmusic!

HeavensBlade23

Mar 18 2007, 20:08

When I send a playlist over to the ipod, it sends the contents of what was on the playlist, but not the actual playlist itself. Is this expected behavior?

ShadowVlican

Mar 18 2007, 22:03

QUOTE(HeavensBlade23 @ Mar 18 2007, 21:08)

When I send a playlist over to the ipod, it sends the contents of what was on the playlist, but not the actual playlist itself. Is this expected behavior?

of course it'll send the contents of the playlist..... why would it send the playlist ITSELF? that file would ONLY contain relative links to the music stored on your hard drive, not the ipod

anyways, great work musicmusic!! it's now working perfectly on my 2nd gen shuffle

i love the transcoder support... that was one feature that i needed THE most because my playlist usually contains multiple filetypes (almost every imaginable one believe it or not

)

again, if you need any assistance with respect to the shuffle, feel free to msg me.... i can do testing for you!

HeavensBlade23

Mar 19 2007, 08:43

QUOTE(ShadowVlican @ Mar 19 2007, 00:03)

of course it'll send the contents of the playlist..... why would it send the playlist ITSELF? that file would ONLY contain relative links to the music stored on your hard drive, not the ipod

Uh, yeah, but I wanted it to send both. The whole point of a playlist is to have an easily accessible list of songs that play in a certain order. If I send my workout playlist to the iPod, then I have to queue up all those songs manually while I'm at the gym trying to exercise.

2Pacalypse

Mar 20 2007, 16:00

sending playlists to my 5.5gen actually sends the playlist which is what its supposed to do. I have had the problem where it only sent the files so i always load the library and playlists after sending a playlist to check its on there. try doing that