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ACardiganAndAFrown
This might seem strange to you, as it seems strange to me but, -- it seems all of a sudden foobar has stopped reading id3v1.1 tags and is now treating them like regular v1 tags - cutting of the titles and such.

Is there a preference that could have changed?
Yotsuya
This isnt a direct answer to your question, but have you considered using ID3v2 tags? It's easy enough to add them, and if you need both then you can use ID3v1+ID3v2. As far as I know, all ID3v1 implementations end up cutting off long titles sooner or later. Another option is APE tage but personally I like to stick with the ID3.
ACardiganAndAFrown
v1.1 tags are limitless...
v2 tags are extremly unnecessary.
and it was working before!

"Since the ID3v1 tag had a fixed size and no space marked "Reserved for future use", there isn't really room for that much improvement, if you want to maintain compatibility with existing software."

http://www.id3.org/id3v1.html
MJT
huh.gif You're joking, right? The only difference between ID3v1 and ID3v1.1 is that 1.1 allows you to store the tracknumber as well.
ACardiganAndAFrown
:/ let's say i'm complelty wrong.....okay.

but how come the tags are getting cut off in foobar now - when they used to be shown in full....
MJT
What version of foobar are you using? My first guess is that if you have 0.8.3 then the info was being cached in the database but the files have since been moved or changed in some other way causing a reload of the original information.
ACardiganAndAFrown
0.9.1 -- I really don't know whats going on, this is quite fustrating.
kjoonlee
Which program (and which version) did you use before you used foobar2000 0.9.1?

There was a similar topic a while back: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=45249

Oh well, maybe not. vasya_pupkin's ID3v1 tags weren't being recognized.
ACardiganAndAFrown
i used winamp, but this was ages ago....my problem only started yesterday, it was working fine up untill then..
ACardiganAndAFrown
i just installed 9.2 - same problem..... cutting my tags when was reading the full tags before. sad.gif
ACardiganAndAFrown

update:

just degraded back to 8.3, guess i won't bother upgrading - this reads my tags......
dano
Probably Lyrics3v2 tags, they are not supported anymore.
ACardiganAndAFrown
hahahah no.

not at all mate, it's id3v1.1 no lyrics....
MJT
Do you have a really short track (30 seconds or less) that has tags being read by 0.8.3 but are not being read by 0.9.2? If so, post it here for the experts to analyze. My money is also on some corrupt ID3v2 tag that 0.8.3 was lenient in reading.
ACardiganAndAFrown
sorry i had to "megaupload" it YSI was down sad.gif

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3ARMVU0A

the song tag in 0.9+ came up "It's Better To Follow The Shep" but in 0.8.3 it came up "It's Better To Follow The Shepherd"

so let me know what you see....
MJT
That file has id3v1 + lyrics3 tags (open the file in an editor and search for "LYRICSBEGIN"). It looks like dano called it. smile.gif
ACardiganAndAFrown
is there a plugin that supports this? in 0.9.x
PHOYO
QUOTE(ACardiganAndAFrown @ Jun 9 2006, 23:12) *

is there a plugin that supports this? in 0.9.x


No. Foobar2000 will never support Lyrics3 again. Not even with plugin.

Source: developers
ACardiganAndAFrown
so, no point in upgrading for me then.
Yotsuya
ID3v2.x tags are what the majority of the world have come to accept as the solution for long tags on MP3s. If you have your own reasons for sticking to ID3v1.x then so be it but dont expect much support. Lyrics tags are becoming less and less popular and over time I think you will find it's support disappearing from more than just foobar.. I'd strongly suggest you reconsider using ID3v2 tags if you need long titles for your songs.

While the developers of foobar (and many other programs) have no intention of supporting lyric tags, the sdk is available. If you feel so strongly about continuing to use them for your song titles you may want to consider developing a plugin yourself.
ACardiganAndAFrown
this has not already been developed by someone else?
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