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marlin1989
I have recenlty purchased a new Creative Lab Zen M MP3 player. I have 200+ dics that I rip to my Media Center PC in the WMA lossless format. The problem is the ZEN player does not support WMA lossless! I need to convert it to either a regular WMA or MP3 etc.. I can not find a program to do this conversion. What is a good program todo this conversion on 200+ CD's? Thanks for the help. TJ sad.gif sad.gif
CSMR
Dbpoweramp will do it.
Not many portables support lossless. One or two support FLAC and some ipods support apple lossless.
kwanbis
you got your first leson on why not not to use propietary/closed formats ... use dbpoweramp to convert to FLAC
Mike Giacomelli
QUOTE(kwanbis @ Jun 17 2006, 12:23) *

you got your first leson on why not not to use propietary/closed formats


No he didn't.

QUOTE(kwanbis @ Jun 17 2006, 12:23) *

... use dbpoweramp to convert to FLAC


Did you even read the post? That won't help him at all.

marlin1989:

Use WMP10, foobar, dbpoweramp, etc to convert to MP3. WMP10 can even be set to automatically convert your lossless files as you add them.
kwanbis
[quote name='Mike Giacomelli' post='403947' date='Jun 17 2006, 19:54']
Did you even read the post? That won't help him at all.[/quote]
i mean to convert to an open format. CSMR already told him how to solve his first problem.


[quote name='Mike Giacomelli' date='Jun 17 2006, 19:54' post='403947']
No he didn't. [/quote]
he did if he is smart enought.[/quote]
greynol
>>>you got your first leson on why not not to use propietary/closed formats
>>No he didn't.
>he did if he is smart enought.

kwanbis:
Did you bother to check what formats the Zen M is capable of handling before popping off with such nonsense?

I own an iPod. Do you also suggest I go with flac?
grommet
By default, Windows Media Player 10 and 11 will transcode the WMA Lossless "live" as it copies to your Zen. Really. You can even set the quality lower... if you want to consume less space on the Zen.
kwanbis
QUOTE(greynol @ Jun 17 2006, 23:31) *

Did you bother to check what formats the Zen M is capable of handling before popping off with such nonsense?. I own an iPod. Do you also suggest I go with flac?

If he wants to have lossless for PC use, which i assumed he does, then he should move to FLAC. If he just needs it for his player, he should convert to MP3 and delete the WMA lossless. If you didn't understood what i mean, or i wasn't clear enought, you should as for clarification, no need to insult.

EDIT: and, yes i did checked http://www.creative.com/products/product.a...uct=14331&nav=1
marlin1989
Help, I tried to convert to MP3 and others and it says "the file 'G:\My Music\Alan Jackson\Drive\01 Drive (For Daddy Gene).wma' is encrypted which dMC is not able to decode."

What do I do now?
sony666
dont double cross post
kwanbis
QUOTE(marlin1989 @ Jun 18 2006, 01:52) *

Help, I tried to convert to MP3 and others and it says "the file 'G:\My Music\Alan Jackson\Drive\01 Drive (For Daddy Gene).wma' is encrypted which dMC is not able to decode."

What do I do now?

no need to send me a PM either ... you should re-rip to FLAC/MP3 ... (lesson number two, don't use DRM)
marlin1989
Still not working.

1. I am using dBpowerAMP Music Converter
2. The files are WMA lossless
3. These are orgianl CD's that I rip to a external/portable Disc Drive
4. When I look at the file properties it does say "DRM Protected Audio (cannot convert)"
5. I have tried converting them to WMA, MP3, and FLAC
6. Same message " The file 'G:\My Music\Alan Jackson\Drive\03 Bring on the Night.wma' is encrypted which dMC is not able to decode. "

7. WHat is dMC?
8. What is DRM Protected mean?

Help
Alex B
QUOTE(marlin1989 @ Jun 18 2006, 05:29) *

Still not working.

1. I am using dBpowerAMP Music Converter
2. The files are WMA lossless
3. These are orgianl CD's that I rip to a external/portable Disc Drive
4. When I look at the file properties it does say "DRM Protected Audio (cannot convert)"
5. I have tried converting them to WMA, MP3, and FLAC
6. Same message " The file 'G:\My Music\Alan Jackson\Drive\03 Bring on the Night.wma' is encrypted which dMC is not able to decode. "

7. WHat is dMC?
8. What is DRM Protected mean?

Help

I'll try to help,

1., 5. & 6. dBpowerAMP cannot convert them.
2. Good, lossless is lossless.
3. Good, then they are from the original sources.
4. Bad, you have accidentally used the option named "Copy protect files". That is one of the stupid things that Windows Media Player allows users to do without any warning or explanation.
7. dBpowerAMP Music Converter
8. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management

Now the help part: Try this Media Center. It can find that your system has licenses for the files you ripped by yourself and allows you to convert them. (It cannot convert commercial DRM protected files, which usually have a more restricted license.) It can also keep your Zen synchronized with your lossless library and convert on the fly. It supports LAME 3.97b2 MP3 encoding and the HA recommended settings. However, since your files are copy protected you may want to consider converting the library to a more friendly lossless format for avoiding further problems. J. River Media Center supports Monkey's Audio and FLAC besides WMA Lossless. The program is not free, but it has a 30-day try out period. You can convert your library and evaluate the program during that period. If you need any advice don't hesitate to ask at the J. River forum.

Edit: typo
Jojo
QUOTE(kwanbis @ Jun 17 2006, 18:15) *

QUOTE(greynol @ Jun 17 2006, 23:31) *

Did you bother to check what formats the Zen M is capable of handling before popping off with such nonsense?. I own an iPod. Do you also suggest I go with flac?

If he wants to have lossless for PC use, which i assumed he does, then he should move to FLAC.

why? because you say so? or because PC's are able to play WMA lossless by default and flac requires an extra program / plugin? There is a greater chance that WMA lossless is supported in mp3 players in the future than FLAC. The only player that was able to play FLAC is the rio karma, which is dead...
kwanbis
QUOTE(Jojo @ Jun 18 2006, 04:27) *

why? because you say so? or because PC's are able to play WMA lossless by default and flac requires an extra program / plugin? There is a greater chance that WMA lossless is supported in mp3 players in the future than FLAC. The only player that was able to play FLAC is the rio karma, which is dead...

"should" as in "recommended". Don't you have anything better than play the thought guy? ("why? becasue you say so?"). We had many person asking "how can i remove DRM from my WMA's?".

QUOTE(Jojo @ Jun 18 2006, 04:27) *

or because PC's are able to play WMA lossless by default and flac requires an extra program / plugin?

so? that means what? Windows 2000 requires a program to play WMA (WMP), same XP, (WMP 10+) AFAIR.
grommet
If it wasn't clear enough from the last few posts, you had "Copy protect music" enabled (in WMP's Rip settings) when you ripped your CDs to WMA Lossless. That was a big mistake. (No reason to do that, unless you want to prevent people from copying and playing the content elsewhere... including yourself!)

Thankfully, that "feature" is off by default (has been for years)... but it doesn't stop someone from turning it on. D'oh!
sony666
you can play these files only with windows media player and only on the PC where you created them.
so they are worthless. lesson learned smile.gif
Alex B
As I explained, JRMC can correctly interpret the license and convert the files. It has full support for MS DRM and WMA tags too. If WMA Lossless is preferred for some reason the user can even convert the files to unprotected WMA Lossless. So that would make reripping and retagging unnecessary if there is a need to get rid of the copy protection.

In my opinion, the only real concern would be how accurately Windows Media Player could extract the audio information. WMP does not have anything like EAC's or JRMC's secure ripping mode and rip logging. However, if the source CD's were in good condition and the resulting files don't have any audible glitches I suppose they are fine.

Edit

Actually, since the original CDs are available it is a trivial task to try to rerip an occasional problem CD with a better ripper in case WMP produced audible errors.
Woodinville
QUOTE(marlin1989 @ Jun 17 2006, 11:42) *

I have recenlty purchased a new Creative Lab Zen M MP3 player. I have 200+ dics that I rip to my Media Center PC in the WMA lossless format. The problem is the ZEN player does not support WMA lossless! I need to convert it to either a regular WMA or MP3 etc.. I can not find a program to do this conversion. What is a good program todo this conversion on 200+ CD's? Thanks for the help. TJ sad.gif sad.gif


Have you tried a standard WMP 10? Does it not re-code for you automatically?
quas
QUOTE(Jojo @ Jun 17 2006, 22:27) *

There is a greater chance that WMA lossless is supported in mp3 players in the future than FLAC. The only player that was able to play FLAC is the rio karma, which is dead...

O RLY? What about the iAudio X5? What about all the Rockbox-compatible players? With Rockbox, FLAC is easily the most widely supported lossless format, in terms of hardware. WMA Lossless certainly isn't widely supported right now, and your claims about its future support sound to me like nothing more than wild speculation.
Mike Giacomelli
QUOTE(Woodinville @ Jun 19 2006, 15:41) *

QUOTE(marlin1989 @ Jun 17 2006, 11:42) *

I have recenlty purchased a new Creative Lab Zen M MP3 player. I have 200+ dics that I rip to my Media Center PC in the WMA lossless format. The problem is the ZEN player does not support WMA lossless! I need to convert it to either a regular WMA or MP3 etc.. I can not find a program to do this conversion. What is a good program todo this conversion on 200+ CD's? Thanks for the help. TJ sad.gif sad.gif


Have you tried a standard WMP 10? Does it not re-code for you automatically?


Not if you used DRM. MS actually has a doc explaining that you need to rerip your CDs in this case.
grommet
QUOTE(Mike Giacomelli @ Jun 19 2006, 16:57) *
Not if you used DRM. MS actually has a doc explaining that you need to rerip your CDs in this case.
Yep, the whole dumb "copy protect your rip" idea was to lock down the content to the specific PC.

I've only seen this "feature" used legitimately a few times... only to prevent people from (easily) copying copyrighted content from a public/shared PC.
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