dv1989
Jul 16 2006, 15:56
ok thats great to see a fixed playcount component but all my files user play_counter instead of play_count and my hotness rating scheme works off play_counter... is it possible to setup the component so i can choose the name of the play_count to be play_counter...
surely I am not the only person with this dilema and I have 40,000 mp3's this will take a long time to convert all the names..
also the lats played timestamp seems a huge number.. is there any way to get some more sense out of how it works...
If I have to get used to it, then thats fine but can we also have first played in the statistics db as well...
thanks for the awesome work on foobar.. always appreciated and loved...
ARiel G.
Jul 16 2006, 17:50
QUOTE(dv1989 @ Jul 16 2006, 23:56)

I don't know what with you, but i think the new beta play_count official dosen't seem to work al all...
No <PLAY_COUNT> nor <LAST_PLAYED> tags has added.
Furtermore, as 4nt1 just sayed above me, i also have used play_count unofficial and all my files taged different from play_count official standart,
Is it possiable to make an advace option in play_count official to choose tag standard?
Thanx.
Hakubo
Jul 16 2006, 18:01
Official playcount doesn't add any tags to files. It keeps information in foobar's cfg file, as I heard.
ARiel G.
Jul 16 2006, 18:09
QUOTE(Hakubo @ Jul 17 2006, 02:01)

Official playcount doesn't add any tags to files. It keeps information in foobar's cfg file, as I heard.
- I think you may right in the past, but the new plugin "Collects statistics about tracks from your Media Library being played. Statistics can be displayed using %last_played% and %play_count%, or using a context menu command. Now includes option to
write statistics to file tags."
Foobar play count beta- And again, i don't even find the component properties, even He is in the "components" section.
Hakubo
Jul 16 2006, 18:16
Oops, my bad.
Haven't tried the latest beta yet.
Lorraine
Jul 16 2006, 18:47
I like what I see but the playcount thing is a big deal for me. I like stats and a lot of my playlists are built from them.
As people have already said, the new playcount.dll on the beta page does work now but it writes %play_count% rather than %play_counter% so it's not compatible with the stats I've already built up. I'm not wiping them to start again and changing all my %play_counter% tags to %play_count% by hand would take forever.

Also, I can't see anywhere to change the % of song complete before it counts as played and I think it has to be the whole thing...

So I'm still staying away from the beta for now I guess.
rocketsauce
Jul 16 2006, 22:27
QUOTE(Lorraine @ Jul 16 2006, 17:47)

I'm not wiping them to start again and changing all my %play_counter% tags to %play_count% by hand would take forever.
Why by hand? Couldn't you use Masstagger to copy the values from %play_counter% to %play_count%?
Robert
yeah you could do that but all the last played dates and first played dates do not match up...
so its not as simple as play_counter to play_count
i wish it was but it isnt.
ARiel G.
Jul 17 2006, 01:44
QUOTE(ARiel G. @ Jul 17 2006, 02:09)

QUOTE(Hakubo @ Jul 17 2006, 02:01)

Official playcount doesn't add any tags to files. It keeps information in foobar's cfg file, as I heard.
- I think you may right in the past, but the new plugin "Collects statistics about tracks from your Media Library being played. Statistics can be displayed using %last_played% and %play_count%, or using a context menu command. Now includes option to
write statistics to file tags."
Foobar play count beta- And again, i don't even find the component properties, even He is in the "components" section.
I reply to myself, i mistake, play_count official did work, but not in the meaner that the quote from the site sayed. He store the information in the data base (or the cfg file), but not in the file tags nor i can't find any propeties window to force write to file or something like this.
The Link
Jul 17 2006, 01:49
QUOTE(ARiel G. @ Jul 17 2006, 09:44)

I reply to myself, i mistake, play_count official did work, but not in the meaner that the quote from the site sayed. He store the information in the data base (or the cfg file), but not in the file tags nor i can't find any propeties window to force write to file or something like this.
Did you have a look at the advanced options section in the preferences?
ARiel G.
Jul 17 2006, 01:57
QUOTE(The Link @ Jul 17 2006, 09:49)

QUOTE(ARiel G. @ Jul 17 2006, 09:44)

I reply to myself, i mistake, play_count official did work, but not in the meaner that the quote from the site sayed. He store the information in the data base (or the cfg file), but not in the file tags nor i can't find any propeties window to force write to file or something like this.
Did you have a look at the advanced options section in the preferences?
I don't look before, but now:

Sorry, what a shame.. Thanx.
Russell777
Jul 17 2006, 04:23
QUOTE(ARiel G. @ Jul 17 2006, 02:09)

QUOTE(Hakubo @ Jul 17 2006, 02:01)

Official playcount doesn't add any tags to files. It keeps information in foobar's cfg file, as I heard.
- I think you may right in the past, but the new plugin "Collects statistics about tracks from your Media Library being played. Statistics can be displayed using %last_played% and %play_count%, or using a context menu command. Now includes option to
write statistics to file tags."
Foobar play count beta- And again, i don't even find the component properties, even He is in the "components" section.
The download link takes me back to foobar's main page,does anyone have that 1.1 version of playcount?
q-stankovic
Jul 17 2006, 04:56
I haven't expected that the official play_count plugin would be developed further. As i know it was created for purpose of testing. Now let me ask if the developer/s are considering to add some features to make the unofficial play_counter plugin (and all its annoyments) completely needless.
I am thinking about the already mentioned opportunity to define the percentage of a track when the playcount has to be added and the info "first_played". In that context i hope that Peter and Holger will think about how useful %added% and %play_stamp% could be.
ARiel G.
Jul 17 2006, 05:28
QUOTE(Russell777 @ Jul 17 2006, 12:23)

The download link takes me back to foobar's main page,does anyone have that 1.1 version of playcount?
I don't know, but the link take me to foobar's optional beta component. And yes, i have it, but i don't know how to upload or transfer it..
What is format new tag - LAST_PLAYED_TIMESTAMP.
I want create script with two actions:
1. change all LAST_PLAYED to LAST_PLAYED_TIMESTAMP
2. rename play_counter to play_count
and apply it to all my library, but without format of LAST_PLAYED_TIMESTAMP I don't create this script.
ARiel G.
Jul 17 2006, 05:32
QUOTE(pIv @ Jul 17 2006, 13:28)

What is format new tag - LAST_PLAYED_TIMESTAMP.
I want create script with two actions:
1. change all LAST_PLAYED to LAST_PLAYED_TIMESTAMP
2. rename play_counter to play_count
and apply it to all my library, but without format of LAST_PLAYED_TIMESTAMP I don't create this script.
Why u would do this? does unofficial play_count still under development?
What is the profit to move to official play_count?
foosion
Jul 17 2006, 05:48
QUOTE(ARiel G. @ Jul 17 2006, 13:32)

What is the profit to move to official play_count?
No crashes.
eisteh
Jul 17 2006, 05:56
so, do i undestand right, that the option on advanced preferences enables official playcount to write the file tags?
But it uses other tags than the unofficial did?
So, if I'm right, then i just have to rename the tags used by unofficial to the ones the official does, enable this advanced option and 'use' it as i 'used' the unofficial one?
Masahiko
Jul 17 2006, 07:01
QUOTE(Russell777 @ Jul 17 2006, 12:23)

The download link takes me back to foobar's main page,does anyone have that 1.1 version of playcount?
Use right clic and Save Target As...
pepoluan
Jul 17 2006, 07:29
QUOTE(Russell777 @ Jul 17 2006, 17:23)

The download link takes me back to foobar's main page,does anyone have that 1.1 version of playcount?
I think it's got to do with a server overload or somesuch.
I got that result many many many times trying to download something from foobar2000's site. Admin's solution? Keep trying, you're bound to succeed sometime in the future...
Hmm yeah

helpful...
QUOTE(pepoluan @ Jul 17 2006, 16:29)

QUOTE(Russell777 @ Jul 17 2006, 17:23)

The download link takes me back to foobar's main page,does anyone have that 1.1 version of playcount?
I think it's got to do with a server overload or somesuch.
I got that result many many many times trying to download something from foobar2000's site. Admin's solution? Keep trying, you're bound to succeed sometime in the future...
Hmm yeah

helpful...
This is off topic but the server uses anti hotlinking features that prevent downloading when referer doesn't match server. Some so called privacy tools disable referers, you may want to examine options in the software that you use.
can I invoke the playcount fields written to the DB in masstagger in this version? previous one prevented me from doing that....
thanks.
RadioactiveMan
Jul 17 2006, 09:30
QUOTE(Case @ Jul 17 2006, 16:38)

This is off topic but the server uses anti hotlinking features that prevent downloading when referer doesn't match server. Some so called privacy tools disable referers, you may want to examine options in the software that you use.
I tried it with three different browsers. Opera 9, Firefox 1.5, IE7. It didn't work anywhere. Also right click and "Save as..." gives me only the index.html. I don't use any proxys or such stuff. Is there perhaps another way to get that component?
Russell777
Jul 17 2006, 09:48
QUOTE(RadioactiveMan @ Jul 17 2006, 17:30)

QUOTE(Case @ Jul 17 2006, 16:38)

This is off topic but the server uses anti hotlinking features that prevent downloading when referer doesn't match server. Some so called privacy tools disable referers, you may want to examine options in the software that you use.
I tried it with three different browsers. Opera 9, Firefox 1.5, IE7. It didn't work anywhere. Also right click and "Save as..." gives me only the index.html. I don't use any proxys or such stuff. Is there perhaps another way to get that component?
Same here.Can anyone who has obtained it please upload it to wherever is possible?
q-stankovic
Jul 17 2006, 10:01
QUOTE(foosion @ Jul 17 2006, 12:48)

QUOTE(ARiel G. @ Jul 17 2006, 13:32)

What is the profit to move to official play_count?
No crashes.
Not only that! The shortly appearing box while writing tag to file which steals the focus is one of the most annoying bugs!
Not to forget: The user have the freedom to decide if the info about playback statistics should be written in file or not.
Stuart60611
Jul 17 2006, 13:02
So if I understand this correctly, all one has to do is rename and transfer (with masstagger) the metadata from the old field names from the unofficial playcount to the new field names of the beta statistics and enable writing of data to file tags from the advanced options, and I will have all the functionality of the unofficial playcount with the new beta statistics. Does the new beta statistics plugin write the actual data for the play_count and last_played fields in a different format than the unofficial playcount?
roentgen
Jul 17 2006, 13:21
QUOTE(q-stankovic @ Jul 17 2006, 19:01)

Not only that! The shortly appearing box while writing tag to file which steals the focus is one of the most annoying bugs!
It seems that increasing file buffering up to something like 1024 kb (in Configuration/Advanced) gets rid of the annoying progress bar.
fabiospark
Jul 17 2006, 13:29
Can we have %play_count% working in masstagger even if we are writing the stats only to the config file, please?
Thanks.
dv1989
Jul 17 2006, 15:32
musosticky
Jul 18 2006, 04:08
QUOTE(roentgen @ Jul 17 2006, 13:21)

QUOTE(q-stankovic @ Jul 17 2006, 19:01)

Not only that! The shortly appearing box while writing tag to file which steals the focus is one of the most annoying bugs!
It seems that increasing file buffering up to something like 1024 kb (in Configuration/Advanced) gets rid of the annoying progress bar.
Thanks for that suggestion. I was having a long pause after one minute but it seems to have stopped since changing the buffer length
Can anyone explain what format LAST_PLAYED_TIMESTAMP is? For example 127977078848593750?
walla: The amount of seconds since January 1st 1970 00:00.
EDIT: typo
foosion
Jul 18 2006, 10:00
QUOTE(Anas @ Jul 18 2006, 17:07)

walla: The amount of seconds since January 1st 1970 00:00.
EDIT: typo
Wrong. It is not a UNIX time, which is quite easy to see, if you try to interpret the number as such (year 4,058,128,518). Try
Win32 FILETIME instead.
It's possible add to ofifcial plugin next thing - create tag first_played if play_count and play_counter equal zero or not presents and last_played tag not presents?
Without tag "first_played" statistics monitoring is useless!
yandexx
Jul 18 2006, 11:44
No one mentioned this here..
the official component updated to v1.2.
http://www.foobar2000.org/beta/components.htmlJust with the new beta
Garfen
Jul 18 2006, 12:11
Is it possible to save in a dedicated statistics file?
Like statistics.txt in foobar directory (or User/home directory).
And will it be possible to add a field fore every time playing a song fore better statistick. That would open fore viewing "hot" songs and diagrams over a specified month.
Thanks fore all the wonderfull work with foobar.
Sorry fore the bad english.
fabiospark
Jul 18 2006, 13:24
QUOTE(yandexx @ Jul 18 2006, 19:44)

No one mentioned this here..
the official component updated to v1.2.
http://www.foobar2000.org/beta/components.htmlJust with the new beta

... maybe change logs are forbidden by some forum rules...
RadioactiveMan
Jul 18 2006, 13:25
Hello everybody,
I have found a bug. You can see the result in the screenshot.
ScreenshotFirst I blamed foo_sic for the doubled tags as it happens right after computing the fingerprint but after removing one plugin after the other I found out it is only playcounts' fault.
Using foobar 0.9.3 beta 2 and official playcount 1.2
Does anyone else experience this behaviour?
QUOTE(RadioactiveMan @ Jul 18 2006, 16:25)

Hello everybody,
I have found a bug. You can see the result in the screenshot.
ScreenshotFirst I blamed foo_sic for the doubled tags as it happens right after computing the fingerprint but after removing one plugin after the other I found out it is only playcounts' fault.
Using foobar 0.9.3 beta 2 and official playcount 1.2
Does anyone else experience this behaviour?
Yes. I have this issue. It also occurs if you use masstagger scripts from the context menu too often. Try it by changing the rating of a song several times.
Well, I tried updating the new play_counnt manually via context menu. The old play_counter tag is REPLACED with a play_count tag. And the field is updates - that is, it does not start from zero.
Am I right??
Also, why is it disrecommended to auto-sync files tags with statistics?? Playcount unofficial used to write tags during playback with no fatal problems, and quite flawless in foobar 0.8.3.
yandexx
Jul 19 2006, 13:31
QUOTE(fabiospark @ Jul 18 2006, 23:24)

QUOTE(yandexx @ Jul 18 2006, 19:44)

No one mentioned this here..
the official component updated to v1.2.
http://www.foobar2000.org/beta/components.htmlJust with the new beta

... maybe change logs are forbidden by some forum rules...
The official page doesn't say much, but
* View your playback stats in Properties, on the General Properties tab, for one or multiple tracks
* No weirdy LAST_PLAYED_TIMESTAMP visible now
FrDelefortrie
Jul 22 2006, 04:39
QUOTE
I have found a bug. You can see the result in the screenshot.
Screenshot
I also have this bug but it only appears with ogg vorbis files (at least, not with mp3 and mpc) when the component synchronise file tags with tags .
As beto said the bugs also appears when retagging playing ogg vorbis files.
"The double name" bug desappears when the song stops.
So it's seems to be
a bug with ogg vorbis tags .
eisteh
Aug 16 2006, 06:10
Not that i don't like to official playcount, but could you add an option to select what info you want have to be stored in db/mp3 tag? Some users dont need the first played, some do, so why not let them chose?
And could you let the user chose again if he wants the timestamp or the other format of the last/first played time? I'd rather like to have all tags in the mp3's instead of the db (for the case the db gets lost/damaged/whatver) so that the statistics can be restored. But what shall i do with this wired timestamp, having the 'real life time' format is much easier to handle IMHO.
As you see, and already might know, to let users chose what and where the plugin writes might be a bit better. Perhaps you could add some of these options in further versions. thanks anyways.
(What about a changelog for 1.2 -> 1.3.1? ^^)
Russell777
Aug 16 2006, 14:06
Oficial playcount plugin had been updated to version 1.3.1.It now features the %first_played% field
and IMO now it is better than the unoficial one
Get it here:
http://www.foobar2000.org/components/index.html
randal1013
Aug 16 2006, 14:15
i had a little bit of trouble with it at first, but i got it straightened out. it works great now. i really like how it doesn't have a pop-up window when it updates. my only complaint/request is that i'd like to be able set when the plug-in updates the song.
QUOTE(randal1013 @ Aug 16 2006, 16:15)

i had a little bit of trouble with it at first, but i got it straightened out. it works great now. i really like how it doesn't have a pop-up window when it updates. my only complaint/request is that i'd like to be able set when the plug-in updates the song.
that would be nice. as well as updating files that are not in the database. and perhaps some way to syncronize the existing statistics that have been collected over the past 2 years.
also, how is "128002441598125000" usefull to me when i want to know the date and time the last time a track played?
unabatedshagie
Aug 19 2006, 16:46
Is there any way to transfer the play_count data between files without writing the data to the file?
For instance if I have a song in mp3 and I re-rip to flac could I transfer the data between them?
cwbowron
Aug 24 2006, 06:55
Is it possible to retrieve the playback statistics information from another plugin without having the statistics synced with the file tags (without resorting to a titleformatting call)?
Thanks.
unabatedshagie
Aug 24 2006, 07:36
QUOTE(unabatedshagie @ Aug 19 2006, 23:46)

Is there any way to transfer the play_count data between files without writing the data to the file?
For instance if I have a song in mp3 and I re-rip to flac could I transfer the data between them?
Anyone???
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