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jatjax
I would like to record mice vocalizations. These little guys vocalize between 20 and 120 kHz. To do this I would just like to get some kind of ultrasonic microphone and hook it up to a NI-Daq board and then record and analyze it with special software that I already have.

The problem I have is that I cannot find an ultrasonic microphone! I can find bat detectors out there but they have so much that I just don't need. Is there anyone who might be able to point me in the right direction? It would be GREATLY appreciated!!!

Thank you!

J
2Bdecided
This goes up to 100kHz...

http://www.bksv.com/3103.asp?Types=:4939:

Being B&K, I assume it's not going to be cheap!

Cheers,
David.
cabbagerat
I know Panasonic make similar products, so you might find luck in their catalog. It's a damn wide bandwidth for any microphone to pick up, I'm not sure how much luck you are going to have.
Egor
QUOTE (cabbagerat @ Jul 21 2006, 20:22) *
I know Panasonic make similar products, so you might find luck in their catalog.

huh.gif Maybe you're confusing it with some old Technics headphones with 3 Hz - 100 kHz range? I doubt Panasonic offers ultrasonic mikes even for their professional AV equipment.

Currently Sennheiser has studio microphone with frequency response up to 50 kHz.
dannyb37
The lowest one I've seen is this;

Sony ECMMS957 Digital Microphone
Audio Input Details: Stereo (mid-side) - 50 - 18000 Hz - Effective Output Level -45.8 dB ± 3 dB - Output Impedance 600 Ohm ± 30%
Egor
QUOTE (dannyb37 @ Jul 21 2006, 23:12) *
50 - 18000 Hz


Hmm, "ultrasonic" means it goes over upper limit of human hearing (18 kHz can be called ultrasound for deaf people though smile.gif ).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrasound
chelgrian
QUOTE (jatjax @ Jul 20 2006, 20:23) *
I would like to record mice vocalizations. These little guys vocalize between 20 and 120 kHz.


So we can finally put the debate of if there is a use for 192KHz audio recording to bed. I bet the people who specified that as the max rate for DVD-A never thought of recording mouse calls smile.gif

Some resarch turns up a german company which makes this sort of thing

http://www.avisoft.com/usg/microphones.htm

Their base model seems to do 10-120KHz which sounds like what you need.
boojum
Why do you want to record mice? I cannot think that anybody would buy their records. cool.gif
Egor
QUOTE (boojum @ Jul 22 2006, 07:53) *
Why do you want to record mice? I cannot think that anybody would buy their records. cool.gif

smile.gif They are the race of hyper-intelligent pan-dimensional beings (according to sci-fi "The hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy"). BTW, dolphins, which also vocalize in ultrasonic range, are known to be somewhat intelligent.
dannyb37
QUOTE (Egor @ Jul 21 2006, 17:27) *
QUOTE (dannyb37 @ Jul 21 2006, 23:12) *
50 - 18000 Hz


Hmm, "ultrasonic" means it goes over upper limit of human hearing (18 kHz can be called ultrasound for deaf people though smile.gif ).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrasound



I wrote lowest didn't I! dry.gif

I ment highest! laugh.gif
Kurt Veggeberg
GRAS makes measurement grade 1/8" (3.5 mm) pressure microphones capable of operating from 10 Hz - 140 kHz and can be used with most NI products. A 1/4" microphone (7 mm) handles up to 100 kHz. Check GRAS at www.gras.dk (pressure and free field microphones).
MichaelW
QUOTE (boojum @ Jul 22 2006, 13:53) *
Why do you want to record mice? I cannot think that anybody would buy their records. cool.gif


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