Winamp 5.25 Beta, build 868

Winamp 5.25 Beta Full
Winamp 5.25 Beta Pro (asks for key during install)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Standard (same as Full but no ML or viz)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Lite

More info here.

What's New

Winamp 5.25
* New: Unicode filename and title support
* New: M3U8 (Unicode) playlist support
* New: optional 24bit playback for many codecs (turn it on in Preferences->Playback)
* New: added ml views & playlists to Play-> submenu of main right click popup menu
* New: Replaygain support for MP3, M4A/AAC and OGG (enable in Prefs > Playback)
* New: [ml_pmp] Transcoding. Converts incompatible files on-the-fly.
* New: [ml_pmp] Playback now works for playsForSure and Creative NJB devices
* New: [ml_pmp] "Copy to Library" - transfer songs from any device to your local library
* New: [ml_pmp] video sync support for portables
* New: [ml_rg] replaygain scanner (access via Send To menu)
* New: [pmp_usb] USB Portable/Device Support
* Improved: 24bit EQ support
* Improved: fullscreen video seekbar
* Improved: ATF updates
* Improved: DC filter on spectral visualization, to remove bass bias
* Improved: preference cleanups
* Improved: faster PLS writing
* Improved: "Close Winamp" option after installation (after clicking 'Send')
* Improved: [gen_ff] better sample rate display
* Improved: [in_dshow] AVI metadata reading
* Improved: [in_dshow] better WAV support
* Improved: [in_mp3] 24bit MP3 playback, 64bit internal precision
* Improved: [in_mp3] streaming id3v2 support
* Improved: [in_mp3/in_mp4] 24bit AAC playback
* Improved: [in_wave] better outputs bits-per-sample choosing
* Improved: [ml_local] better non-english query support
* Improved: [ml_pmp] Only relevant columns shown in song views
* Improved: [ml_pmp] "Getting Metadata" now much faster
* Improved: [ml_pmp] devices can now be renamed
* Improved: [ml_pmp] added progress to portables tree item (no more switching views)
* Improved: [ml_pmp] metadata guessing based on filename
* Improved: [ml_pmp] improved GUI performance
* Improved: [pmp_ipod] support for iTunesLock
* Fixed: Burning files that require resampling
* Fixed: multiple copies of Winamp when opening too many files/folders from explorer
* Fixed: freeze when exiting via System Tray icon
* Fixed: Delay/hang when loading dead stream url's
* Fixed: crash when directdraw fails to create primary surface
* Fixed: [enc_lame] broken vbr presets
* Fixed: [enc_lame] 24bit input support
* Fixed: [gen_ff] layerfx not being redrawn on colortheme change
* Fixed: [gen_ff] gradient drawing glitch and crash
* Fixed: [gen_ff] custom color themes bug
* Fixed: [gen_jumpex] hang when suspending or hibernating
* Fixed: [in_cdda] cutoff of last few sectors
* Fixed: [in_dshow] crash when using DSP/EQ on anything bigger than 16bit stereo
* Fixed: [in_midi] truncated playback of some MIDI files
* Fixed: [in_mod] title display bug for module streams with no title
* Fixed: [in_mp3] crash when editing ID3 tags
* Fixed: [in_mp3] ID3v2 and ID3v1 Comment & Genre tags shared
* Fixed: [in_mp3] Inaccurate Time Remaining display for AAC files
* Fixed: [in_wm] DRM Video playback on certain hardware
* Fixed: [in_wm] freezeup when seeking a paused wma/wmv
* Fixed: [in_wm] Hang with dead WMV link in pledit in Repeat mode
* Fixed: [ml_disc] CD ripping / playlist generation bug
* Fixed: [ml_disc] CD Ripping view showing up when clicking on other ml views
* Fixed: [ml_online] Online Media bugfix (don't try to play NULL streams)
* Fixed: [ml_playlists] losing stream titles
* Fixed: [ml_playlists] sort by title
* Fixed: [ml_playlists] Send To from local media to ml playlist replaces instead of enqueues
* Fixed: [ml_playlists] Enqueue as default broken in left pane
* Fixed: [ml_playlists] Playlist title > rt-click > New Playlist = broken
* Fixed: [ml_playlists] tracklength bug
* Fixed: [ml_playlists] playlist paths issue
* Fixed: [ml_pmp] Transfers stalling after encountering a dupe
* Fixed: [out_ds] volume not hitting 0dB when using log or hybrid volume control
* Fixed: [pmp_ipod] Artist list on iPod not sorting "The" correctly
* Updated: [enc_lame] LAME 3.97b3
* Updated: [gen_ff] Freetype 2.2.1
* Updated: [gen_ff] libpng 1.2.12
* Updated: [gen_jumpex] Jump-to-File 0.97.7h
* Updated: [in_wave] libsndfile 1.0.16
* Updated: [libmp4v2] MPEG4IP mp4v2 1.5
* Updated: Sonic Engine 3.2.40.500


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[in_mp3] streaming id3v2 support


This bug was living for more than 5 years now. Good to see that it is fixed now.

ML sync support for USB players is a great thing, too. And good that they removed the predixis crap from the installer.

Anyone have a link to their changes to ATF?

Nothing too major.

See: http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?po...591#post1963591
(note, replace 5.24 with 5.25 in that post - 5.24 was an unplanned release)

Way OT, but whats it with all the cats in the avatars in this post?

@Audiomars: (OT) Cats like Winamp? Anyways, here's one dog for you

Back to topic:
Will Winamp support FLAC out-of-the-box?

Some of us are governed by cats at home. Anyone who has cats knows, it's a home monarchy of cats. This is my cat/queen in my avatar. She governs with some arrogance, as you can see in the picture.

Which cats?

Cats are awesome. You best live with it, it's a fact.

Errrrr, does Winamp support id3v2 2.4 by now? I stopped updating it a while ago...

(edit: typo)

I've just moved over to England from Australia, sadly leaving my cat Keira behind. My avatar features her, strutting in my Mum's backyard, letting everyone know who truly owns the place.

@ everyone: Thanks for the laughs . Cats are fun, and I love dogs too. Used to have both as pets but now living in an apartment where I cannot have them.

@pepoluan: FLAC is not supported out the box.

@Borisz: It now reads ID3v2.4 and any tag updates on a file which already has ID3v2.4 is done in the same format ie, ID3v2.4. However, when creating new tags, it seems to be writing ID3v2.3 tags.

I seem to remember reading on the Winamp forums not too long ago that FLAC support is being worked on and will be featured in a future version.

The cat in my avatar is my 15 year old, Felicia. She and I go way back. I've had cats in my avatar since before it was hip.

Thanks for the link benski. I find it interesting to see how foobar2000's titleformatting syntax and ATF are diverging, when they both derive from the same source.

Is it fully ID3v2.4 compliant now?

I think Peter was the first one with a cat avatar, if my memory serves me correctly.

finally unicode:

That's a cat !? I didn't know what what kind of animal that is, i thought it's a panther or something exotic. Btw. i have 5 cats plus possible kittens somewhere (we haven't found them yet, maybe they're dead already), but i do not follow the fashion

And a mod should move the cat related discussion to somewhere else

Hmm. To (partly) answer the questions:

This was in the 5.20 changelog: * Improved: [in_mp3] preliminary id3v2.4 support
I think that suggests that it is partly done, but has still to be finished.

Unicode support was preliminarily introduced with 5.20 as well and seems to be finished now (except for the Media Library).

AFAIK Flac support is planned

EDIT: (removed incorrect assumption)

No FLAC support yet? Aww durn.

Well, in the meantime... there seems to be 2 FLAC input plugins, one FLAC's official, another one (earlier) has support for ML. Which one do you recommend to use?

The one with ML support is the latest version of FLAC 1.1.2 modified with ML support. It is fine and the one I recommend, but I sure wish FLAC support with ML was built into WinAMP by default so all my song listeners could download WinAMP without having to go find and install an add-on FLAC filter....

Anyway here is the link to the better FLAC input playback filter (ie. better than the "official one" which has no ML support). Note: The author also puts out a FLAC encoder too, which is also available separately on his site:

http://www.facquet.com/en/projects-4/winam...ownload-78.html

@goodnews: Thanks! I'll be using that, then.

I luv the Winamp interface, brilliant work, thanks for a new release.
When is bult-in APE tags support planned then please?

P.S.
Cats rule!

Winamp Preferences -> Media Library -> CD Ripping -> Encoder

Select: MP4/aacPlus (HE-AAC) encoder v1.21 as Encoding Format

Then I see that:
MP4 Container Options is set to "Accurate Information" by default.

Maybe change the default to "Backwards Compatible"?
The "accurate" files can't be decoded by pure LC AAC decoders. iTunes does not play these files, iPod does not play these files, for example.



PS: The "Backwards Compatible" information is just as "accurate" as the "Accurate Information" anyway.

We would like FLAC support, but although the FLAC library is under a BSD licence, the orginal FLAC plugin is under the GPL (and hence the updated one with ML support also has GPL'd code in it). We can't include GPL code in winamp for obvious reasons.

If the FLAC guys could put that code under the same BSD licence as the FLAC library, then we'd LOVE to include it in winamp. But until they do, we can't.

Will (winamp dev)

Thanks for this explanation about the problem with adding FLAC support to WinAmp.

Hopefully, Josh Coalson (the FLAC developer) will see this post and choose to contact you to change the license from GPL to BSD to meet your needs of including the FLAC plug-in built into WinAmp.

Thanks for your willingness to add the FLAC support to WinAmp that the many users have been asking for.

Huh, GPL is a viral license. That's why I hate it so much.

Anyways, somewhile ago I stumbled to a site listing the various open-source and/or free licenses (incl. GPL, LGPL, original BSD, modified BSD, MIT, etc.) nicely listing their origins, their effects, etc. etc. etc. but I can't seem to find it again.

If anyone knows the URL, do post here, for reference so that future free/open-source developer will not use a wrong license for their projects.

Boy, I'd really like to see proper cuesheet support built into Winamp. Can one feasibly expect that within the lifespan of my children?

There are many plugins that offer very good cue sheet support for Winamp. Is it that difficult to download a plugin and install it? Like 1% of the user population probably needs it, so why ship it when there are several plugins that adds support for it?

I haven't looked into it recently, but the last time I looked, there was only one really hokey plugin that opened an alternative playlist for cuesheets. I wasn't particularily fond of how it worked, and that was a big reason why I almost completely switched to foobar. Would you be so kind as to provide me with names, and even links, if possible, to what you think are very good plugins for cuesheets? I'd appreciate it.

Until foobar gets a CD+G player for karaoke, though, I'm stuck with winamp for some things. Winamp is also a good video player, of course.

try this http://winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=143011 creates virtual files in the playlist

Hey, that works pretty good. Much, much better than MP3Cue. Thanks for the tip!

Winamp 5.25 Beta, build 801

Winamp 5.25 Beta Full
Winamp 5.25 Beta Pro (asks for key during install)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Standard (same as Full but no ML or viz)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Lite


Changelog

Hi, DJ-Egg:

Which is better, in_mp3.dll(v3.6) OR in_!mpg123.dll(v109.2)?

Previous beta crashes when calling

c:\blah\winamp.exe /UNREG

Which is done in the uninstaller

And in the new Beta that "accurate information" is still default for the MP4 HE AAC encoder.

Finally, Unicode support... I had believed this would never happen.
Are there plans for supporting APEv2 R/W one day?

For now I think that they will try to get IDv2.4 support finished (whatever is missing there). But it is in the winamp wishlist, and it might be done at some point:

I believe ID3v2.4 is fully unicode and ready now but it is the Media Library that's still missing some unicode functionality. At least, that's what the thread on the Winamp support forum seems to suggest.

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=251985

If you want Replaygain or APE tag support: in_!mpg123.

Otherwise they should be about similar now.

Winamp 5.25 Beta, build 812

Winamp 5.25 Beta Full
Winamp 5.25 Beta Pro (asks for key during install)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Standard (same as Full but no ML or viz)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Lite

Build 812 changelog

Drats! A new build juuuuuuuuuust after I finished downloading the previous build.

Oh well...

just saw this thread... yep, I will try to get this resolved by the next release.

Josh

Winamp 5.25 Beta, build 825

Winamp 5.25 Beta Full
Winamp 5.25 Beta Pro (asks for key during install)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Standard (same as Full but no ML or viz)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Lite

changelog

I give up

Meaning that "accurate" information is still the default?

I'll get to it

Aha! That's a sign for me not to download the latest build yet...

Next build will have backwards compatible set by as always-enabled.

Additionally, the file info box (Alt+3) logic has been changed to read the extension audio object, if it's present, from the decoder config. This will solve the problem where HE-AAC files were showing as AAC LC.

I really hope that you fix that annoying bug. I want to see that Winamp 5.25 Final play Nero HE-AAC files correctly. Currently, Winamp says that Nero HE-AAC file is actually LC-AAC.

Build 834

Winamp 5.25 Beta Full
Winamp 5.25 Beta Pro (asks for key during install)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Standard (same as Full but no ML or viz)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Lite

* Fixed: [in_mp4] detection of HE AAC in file info box (Alt+3)
* Fixed: [enc_aacplus] more compatible HE AAC MP4 file creation
* New: "Close Winamp" option after installation (when clicking 'Send' on final User Information screen)

5.25 beta specific bug fixes:
* Fixed: [in_mp3] decoding glitch
* Fixed: installer typo fix (necessary = neccessary)
* Fixed: [in_mp4] burning with 24bit output enabled