I am wondering why ISRC is not read from CDs. I have a Plextor PX-755A and the ISRC is read with both Plextools Professional and EAC, but not with dBpowerAMP.

I am also waiting for this. I assume when he has image capabilities, it will also do a cue sheet? Plus I'm hoping it will be able to write the replaygain values to the cue sheet also.

I'm a little bit confused by the 'image' terminology..

Does this mean that R12 will or will not be able to rip (a whole album) to a single flac file (preferrably with automaticly embeded cue sheets, album art, and replay gain analysis)? This would be huge motivating factor for myself.

Or is 'image' more referring to an .ISO or similar mountable image file, or something else?

Image ripping has slipped to next release (ie r12.5 or r13).

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@sebastian

You have enabled isrc from the meta menu? it is not on by default.

Tag changing will be by a DSP effect later (ie lowercase, etc).

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@Changfest

Will do year stripping for filename, next beta.

Yep. In fact, I enabled everything. I also tried selecting Retrieve --> ISRC or something like that (sorry, don't have access to the software right now) but it didn't help. UPC is retrieved, though. Of course, I tested with a CD that has tracks with ISRC.

OK - and thank you very much for letting us now when we can expect it

Btw, when you implement it, then please make it not in the same way as EAC i.e. that only the cuesheet is made automatically, but the extraction log file is only made when selecting "OK" in a "ripping finished" kinda' dialog, as this will refreain us from being able to automatically embed the log file but only the cuesheet from the used command line, without resorting to AutoIT scripting techniques...

Now, when the image ripping feature has been added, then we only need a kind sould that can make a REACT kinda' AutoIT script for this new ripper also, just like tycho allready has done for EAC, so as to be able to get both a lossless image with embedded cuesheet and logfile + lossy track files, and all this done automatically with just a single click of a button. Also before running the two encoders, then WaveGain should be run also, so as to add "REM REPLAYGAIN_ALBUM_GAIN x.xx dB" and "REM REPLAYGAIN_ALBUM_PEAK x.xxxx" comments to the embedded cuesheet and also use the scalefactor that WaveGain returns to scale the lossy track files so that they will be Album Gain'ed.

Ahh, one can always dream

CU, Martin.

Another suggestion: make the columns movable (if not via drag-and-drop, the way it was implemented in Mp3tag).

Request: Track gain (as well as the current album gain)

Maybe that can be done with a DSP - not sure about album gain though).

They are moveable, but drag 'n drop would be nice.

Track + Album gain are implmented on the DSP ReplayGain.

How?

As for the ISRC problem, it works with my LG E10L unit (USB) but not with my Plextor PX-755A. Any idea why? EAC and Plextool Professional can retrieve ISRC with the Plextor, too (D8 is set as read command in EAC).

Right click on the bar and uncheck everything. Then go back and check them one at a time in the order you would like them shown.

Ah, well, I figured that out, too, but it's way too complicated.

How do you configure external encoders? If I can do that, then I can switch from EAC.

And I was getting all amped up for the January release because I thought image ripping was going to be available.

Oh well, still love the program, it would just be great to have it do images, because its so much easier to use than EAC (mainly for my girlfriend who doesn't have as much patience and computer audio know-how as I do).

question: besides configuring your drives capabilities (caching and all that jazz) are there any other settings that you guys have been changing from the default that makes the program more optimal? I didn't notice anything, but I'm used to EAC where you have to change almost every setting from the defaults to get what you want.

Install CLI Encoder to use any external encoder.

When using the DSP Replaygain, it specifically states album gain, but makes no mention of track gain. If track gain is implemented the DSP should be updated to reflect this.

Bug: if you close the application while it is ripping frames, the program remains in memory and is still ripping in the background even though the window is no longer visible.

The read command is not used to ISRC, rather the read Subcode x042. Now if Read UPC works it is the same call with 1 byte (asking for isrc not upc) changed, odd...

Installed the CLI encoder (dMC-Generic-CLI.exe), ran it and entered the encoder path, name, extention, etc. and a message said encoder was added. But it doesn't appear either in the ripper or the converter (I'm trying to add itunesencode btw).

I looked around the dbpoweramp site but couldn't find info to help with this one. Any help is appreciated, and merry christmas to everyone!

Another wish: can you add a column displaying the pre-emphasis flag?

Do any CDs use the pre-emphasis? maybe some early ones?

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singaiya: Older codecs from Codec Central do not work with R12, the only ones supported are the ones listed in the R12 beta thread (cli encoder is one).

I came across several. One of them of which I can remember is Dire Straits - Alchemy (Live).

"Do any CDs use the pre-emphasis? maybe some early ones?" - spoon

EAC flags pre-emphasis on all three of my CDs from Swedish classical label BIS:

BIS-CD-119 Scriabin: Piano Music - Achatz/Pontinen recorded 1987 issued 1996
BIS-CD-475 Scriabin: Piano Concerto & Sym. No. 3 recorded 1990 issued 1990
BIS-CD-535 Scriabin: Symphony No. 2, etc. recorded 1991 issued 1992

The above are generally available and remain in their catalog.

Spoon, one more thing... I am sure you heard of the German magazine c't. They developed a tool called "h2cdimage" which will attempt to create an image of a data CD or DVD. While it reads the sectors, it marks which sectors it wasn't able to read in a special file. After the reading process is over, the program tells you that let's say 10000 sectors were unreadable. Then you can insert the same CD/DVD into another drive and start the h2cdimage again. If the program finds the "flag file" containing information about which sectors were unreadable, it will attempt to re-read only those sectors with the new drive since the non-marked sectors were already readable by the previous drive. You can repeat this process with as many drives as you want.
The idea behind this is that you have the following data ABCDEFGH. First drive is able to read ABC_E__H. Second drive is able to read ABCD__GH and a third drive is able to read AB___F__. So by using three drives that each complete each other, you have a CD/DVD image that is 100% accurate. Unfortunately, the program only works with data CDs and DVDs and does not support audio or video discs. Any idea if something like this can be implemented for audio CDs?

Someone already mention/requested/suggested a similiar feature earlier in the thread I believe. Spoon's reply was "anything is possible". I think it would be a nice feature.

I think this would be a great feature also!

I was able to recently reconstruct good data from a bad disc using the same drive thanks to the execllent implementation of C2 pointers during re-reads and the way they are reported to the log file.

This combined with the ability to change the criteria of what the program considers acceptable during re-reads would have saved me a lot of time. There were some frames that were good after the ripping was over where C2 had dropped all but one. The number of re-reads was set to 2000.

I'm wondering how much re-reading was performed after the data that wasn't dropped was read.

@spoon: Thanks for your help. I have successfully set it up to rip to iTunes AAC. Hopefully my drive doesn't crash anymore since I updated its firmware just now....

Just wondering, has anyone been able to get R12 working with an external/USB drive yet? If so, how?

regards,
spockman

My LG E10L is an USB 2.0 device and it just worked.

I'm going to take a look at this ripper later today, and perhaps create a plug-in for using it with Omni Encoder if it is possible (so I don't loose any EAC users!)

Ah...OK. I gathered from earlier posts in this thread that there may have been a problem with R12 and USB drives, but apparently not. I have had no luck with my drive so far...

spockman.

Just using c2 pointers over USB is a problem still.

I just set up my Liteon SOHR 5238s over a cheap usb-adapter (this time I removed Daemon-Tools SPT) and C2, as expected, still doesn't work. Very strange, though, is that apparently FUA does. I thought only Plextor drives supported FUA?

Also, Nero CD speed has no trouble doing C1/C2 scans, even with Daemon Tools SPT installed.

Why?

I have not had the time to research it.

I ended up buying a Firewire enclosure for that exact reason, now all my old desktop drives work great in R12

I'll be upgrading to Windows Vista when it is launched.

Will this ripper be compatible with Vista?

Ripping this second on Vista. The last 3 weeks have done extensive vista testing and it runs fine (we had to digital sign various parts of dbpoweramp to integrate it with vista without all the nasty warnings, also updated manifests to ask for admin rights where needed).

I now keep getting the message that I cannot use secure mode with an unregistered copy. What can I do?

I'm having the same problem. Is it going final?

edit: I see there are time limited new versions, which I've not updated to yet.

I've been testing this since Oct and I've decided to stick with EAC. Too many missing features that make ripping large numbers of CDs annoying.

I'll probably switch and buy, if C2 over USB is fixed. I'm using a laptop as my only pc, and while the inbuilt drive is OK for ripping, I want to be able to use my Lite-on in problematic cases. Otherwise, great work Spoon!

What do you think is missing? Seems to have most of what EAC offers plus better performance and ease of use....

(Not the OP:) Encode a disc as a single file (much more convenient when you listen to your music in an album-oriented way) and, as a corollary, cue sheet support (both of these feature should be able to "forget" that there's a last .bin track -- EMI did that heavily circa 2003-2004 and their CDs are a pain to rip in Plextools, for instance).

I would say that is one missing feature used by a very small number of people. Spoon has already said he would add it, but I see no reason to make it a priority. Go look at the HA ripping poll, even here ripping image/cue is a minority, and outside of HA I doubt anyone is doing it.

But if you're one of those people, it's still annoying.

The problem is that Spoon already promised to implement it several years ago. People tend to get impatient, you know...

With this latest version a few of the secure mode options are greyed out (Ultra Secure mode, FUA and C2 settings). Is this intentional?

I have a copy protected disc I can't rip in secure mode. I'd like to disable C2 but can't. Burst mode results in consistent CRCs yet there is still no burst mode logging it seems.

Install the Reference version, not the normal one.

As a side note, I have c2 working over usb, will release test version shortly, a bonus - EAC would not run my Plextor 230a over usb with c2 (other drives yes, but not this plextor( - I have found a way to squeeze c2 out of it!