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krsna77
Anyone who's read my posts here at HA knows that I simply do not have the level of interest, expertise, or specialized knowledge to match the likes of the many reputable audio nerds and developers here. And that's ok - I can at least encode and appreciate audio at better than MP3 @ CBR 128, which already puts me in the 98th percentile as it is. smile.gif

Anyhoo, I would just like to note that today I became just a little more l33t.

I was playing around with encoding Miles Davis, the Complete 1964 concert, using lame, oggenc, and mppenc, just for shits 'n giggles (intending to encode w/ ogg@q6, but hey, can't let those other encoders go to waste...)

Never one before who could really tell that much difference between encoders past ~160 (but I use aps / q6 anyway), I was absolutely thrilled when I had a revelation!

I could tell a distinct difference between MPC - standard, and OGG - q6 and MP3 - aps on a certain 4-second clip! The MPC sample (of audience applause) sounded distinctly and clearly different in the MPC track!

Wee! Now I too have golden ears! (well, not really, but still, this excites me).

Not that I really have the vocabulary to describe the differences fully, but the MPC applause sounded more like loud drops of rain hitting a wooden roof, whereas the OGG and MP3 tracks sounded more like rain hitting an aluminum roof. That's the best I can explain it (and compared to the original - MPC was the most accurate representation of the original sound).

Anyway, since this is the only community that cares about such things as encoder quality differentials, I thought I would share my good fortune!

(FWIW, I still use OGG - q6 as 'good enough' encoding, esp. since I have little interest in properly encoding applause, which I regard as noise anyway, but at least now I can engage in some real haughty MPC-weenie superiority complex / snootiness if I want to - and be truthful in the process! Wee! Not that I will - but I can, and that's the important thing... that 4-second clip gives me the right and privilege to do so if I want, dammit!)

Well, there you go. One Sunday evening wasted. But hey - it's better than rotting my brain on television...
SometimesWarrior
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...but at least now I can engage in some real haughty MPC-weenie superiority complex / snootiness if I want to - and be truthful in the process! Wee! Not that I will - but I can, and that's the important thing... that 4-second clip gives me the right and privilege to do so if I want, dammit!

Wine & cheese party at my place next Friday, only golden ears invited. Bring your own headphones for group listening tests and aural debaucheries. Remember, the secret password to gain entrance is "pre-echo".
M
QUOTE(krsna77 @ Dec 8 2002 - 07:27 PM)
just for shits 'n giggles ...

Enh? Tim? Is that you??

- M.
Phobos
QUOTE(SometimesWarrior @ Dec 8 2002 - 07:10 PM)
Wine & cheese party at my place next Friday, only golden ears invited. Bring your own headphones for group listening tests and aural debaucheries. Remember, the secret password to gain entrance is "pre-echo".

damn, im so crappy that i cant note the difference between -q7 vorbis and extreme AAC, they both sound transparent, but AAC just feels better, and i dont think its just placebo effect. But i can clearly note the difference between -q6 and -q7 vorbis, it sounds a little richer, i also note the same in similar settings with aac.

If aac brings transparent audio at ~192kbps it will be my perfect all-in-one codec smile.gif
Dibrom
QUOTE(SometimesWarrior @ Dec 8 2002 - 06:10 PM)
Wine & cheese party at my place next Friday, only golden ears invited. Bring your own headphones for group listening tests and aural debaucheries. Remember, the secret password to gain entrance is "pre-echo".

lol.. smile.gif
SikkeK
OK, call me stupid, but can anyone tell me how to read stuff like l33t?

Kind regards, Sikke
LoKi128
Damn I wish I was as l33t as the p33ps here! I'm still using Xing at 64kbps and it sounds COMPLETLY TRANSPARENT to me smile.gif

SikkeK: you are NOT l33t... sorry... can't really explain it to you... you just know it!
ak
QUOTE(LoKi128 @ Dec 9 2002 - 05:52 PM)
SikkeK: you are NOT l33t... sorry... can't really explain it to you... you just know it!

Well, if you really wanna join l337, here you can find out where to start...
And here's a little test if you're not sure about how l33t you are. I passed it with '5UP4R L337' result, although I cheated.
Phobos
funny post ak, thnx
Phobos
crap!!!

im almost l337, but heck i was sincere, i almost naturaly read the last question lol
SikkeK
AK, thanx for the answer. Sorry to post such a 14^^3 question rolleyes.gif
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