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Dead G
I'm wondering what type of negative effects has a bad (poor quality) CD-Rom drive (used for ripping) on EAC's wav ripps? Reading errors? Do they appear in EAC's log? Can a read error be corrected by repeated reads in default EAC? How to listen for read errors in a wav\flac file? What should i look for?
evereux
QUOTE(Dead G @ Aug 26 2006, 10:43) *

I'm wondering what type of negative effects has a bad (poor quality) CD-Rom drive (used for ripping) on EAC's wav ripps? Reading errors?

Yes. When correctly set-up EAC is designed to compensate for poor quality drives. A clean, non-copy protected disc should give error free rips in most modern drives. There can be times when this isn't the case which is why we use EAC.

QUOTE(Dead G @ Aug 26 2006, 10:43) *
Do they appear in EAC's log?

If you're set up correctly for secure mode ripping, yes. Burst mode ripping can give ambiguous reports.

QUOTE(Dead G @ Aug 26 2006, 10:43) *
Can a read error be corrected by repeated reads in default EAC?

Yes.

QUOTE(Dead G @ Aug 26 2006, 10:43) *
How to listen for read errors in a wav\flac file?

The log file will give you the time/position of the error. Play the file back.
Sebastian Mares
The information evereux provided is not quite correct. One would think that with EAC, each scratched disc can be read and every read error could be "fixed" by repeated reads. This is not correct. In the end, it all comes down to the abilities of your CD-ROM unit. If it has a good error correction and the disc is not scratched too much, you will probably get perfect results. When the drive has a poor error correction (like NEC DVD writers, as far as I can tell) or the disc has deep scratches (like many discs I got from my local library), some errors are not going to be fixed and EAC will report that a read error occurred.
esa372
QUOTE(Dead G @ Aug 26 2006, 02:43) *
I'm wondering what type of negative effects has a bad (poor quality) CD-Rom drive (used for ripping) on EAC's wav ripps? Reading errors? Do they appear in EAC's log? Can a read error be corrected by repeated reads in default EAC? How to listen for read errors in a wav\flac file? What should i look for?
I used a poor-quality Samsung drive to do some ripping with EAC once. There were random pops, ticks, and clicks that were audible in many of my rips. Once I switched drives, the problem never occurred again.
evereux
QUOTE(Sebastian Mares @ Aug 26 2006, 15:41) *

The information evereux provided is not quite correct. One would think that with EAC, each scratched disc can be read and every read error could be "fixed" by repeated reads. This is not correct. In the end, it all comes down to the abilities of your CD-ROM unit. If it has a good error correction and the disc is not scratched too much, you will probably get perfect results. When the drive has a poor error correction (like NEC DVD writers, as far as I can tell) or the disc has deep scratches (like many discs I got from my local library), some errors are not going to be fixed and EAC will report that a read error occurred.

I was answering in the context of "Can it?". Yes, it can, as in yes it's possible. I didn't mean to imply it was a sure thing.
spoon
The drive can play a huge part of EACs ability to rip, on this thread is a link to test results over 4 drives (same cd):

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=47415

For the worst drive without c2 the rips were poor and not always reported as having errors.
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