Hi,

does anyone knows a portable MP3 Player with Harddisk (like Archos Jukebox) where a gapkiller option is implemenented?

Thanks

I remember several early reports claiming Creative's Nomad Jukebox series of players are able to play gapless MP3s. If you are able to test one, this might do it for you.

Other HD players (Apple's iPod, Sonic|blue's RioRiot) which are firmware upgradeable also have the potential to play gapless audio, but - as far as I know - do not already do so.

- M.

I always assumed 100% perfect gapless playback is impossible with MP3. Sure, crossfading helps, but it changes the timing. In some cases, it means that the songs will sound "out of sync" during the track change.

Don't assume, Dan.

In actual theory, 100% perfect gapless playback may be close to impossible, but there are a few things that can help it approach darn near perfect gaplessness. First, encode with L.A.M.E.'s "--nogap" parameter (the easiest way is with Speek's frontend), and then play your files in a player that supports gapless output. Winamp can accomplish this when used with a gapless output plugin (there are also others available at Winamp's own site...), but CoolPlayer is able to play gapless audio by default.

Will there still be small, theoretical gaps? Well, you could check by writing the soundcard output to a WAV file and checking in an audio editor....

- M.

I read that because of certain programs that support VBR headers but contain a bug that introduces a possible gap when the VBR header is read, even when --nogap is used, the --nogap switch disables VBR header writing in LAME. I also read that if the proper coded program is used for playback, then the disabling of the VBR header writing should not be required when used along with --nogap. What players support --nogap, and are --nogap VBR mp3s possible, having both the correct seeking time displayed AND be gapless?

edit: I transposted this to http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....=ST&f=15&t=4820