Eh?

Well...I just installed (and uninstalled) Nero 7.5.1.1. I tried to stick through the installer with just the few basic things I usually prefer to have in my system. That's Nero Burning Rom and Nero Recode...I left a few of the tools as well and totally ignored all the rest. It seemed that still I needed about 470MB of space. If this isn't bloat I really don't know what it is.

I unistalled the program through Your Uninstaller, which actually uses any program's uninstall routine and just searches for related to the program registry entries to wipe out. It erased about 2000 keys. I then used jv16 Power Tools and specifically the registry search. I found more than 1300 keys concerning Nero.

I wonder how things got way out of control for such a well respected development team. I highly doubt that anybody needs some fancy "clothes" that come in such a high price. Please do reconsider changing your whole policy over this. Has any loyal user of your software ever credited this insane bloatedness;

@bluewer than blue: Thanks for the warning. As a result, I *don't* install the Nero, despite having waited for several hours for it to complete download.

Damn you, Nero AG!

nero Digital codec is absulutly is absolutly the best codec out there no argument. Much better than xvid and all mpeg 4 even though it is mpeg 4 and better than divx

I can make some very nice chocolate cookies.

ROTFLMBO!

Isn't it a TOS violation if you don't share them with us so we can be sure too?

Mmm, cookies.

-brendan

I do the best cookies EVER. well my neighbor's dog likes 'em anyway and he is very picky.
if you happen to be around a gladly serve you some.

seriously, @ metalica732:
please have a look at the TOS, including #8. it might well be the case that encoder XY looks/sounds best for you but it's useless for the community if you don't proof so by blind testing.

True. It would be better to download a small patch file for each minor upgrade, rather than having to download and install the whole package again.

Not completely true. You can choose not to install some components, if you choose custom installation.

But what about Nero Scout, and BGMonitor? Two intrusive programs, running all the time, and using much CPU. The user is not asked at all whether or not he wants to install them.

The only way to work around that, is to uninstall these two components after installation. But--there is no provision to remove them from within Nero setup, or its uninstall program. One has to remove the Run key for BGMonitor, and a more complicated procedure for un-registering Nero Scout.

The user should really be able to choose not to install Scout and BGMonitor, if he/she would prefer not to do so.

I agree. I also find Nero Mobile to be a huge disappointment. Months ago I had tried the earlier version, and it didn't work well at all. I uninstalled it.

When I read about the new version that comes with Nero 7.5, it sounded very good from the description. I looked forward to trying it.

I installed it on my T-Mobile (USA) MDA, a version of the HTC Wizard, running Windows Mobile 5. It is a fairly new device. Nero Mobile installed on it, but I haven't yet gotten it to play ANY media at all, which makes it worse for me than the earlier version.

I guess I'll continue using TCPMP, and will perhaps get their upcoming new Coreplayer Mobile.

I sure hope that this program is improved, soon.

I guess that depends on what your definition of warez is. I just took a look at that program, and it doesn't look like warez to me. Warez means getting commercial software for free, with given serial numbers or keygens to avoid having to purchase a license.

This Nero Lite program directs one to the Nero web site to purchase a normal Nero license. The program installs completely normal unaltered Nero software. The only thing altered is the installation program, only installing a smaller subset of the Nero apps.

But yes, that's probably still illegal, although not warez. Any redistribution of copyrighted material in different packaging without the copyright holder's permission, I think is a copyright violation.

However, I don't think it would be wise for Ahead to get its lawyers to go after these guys, even though you would win the case. If people prefer to install using that installer, and purchase a license from Nero (who perhaps otherwise wouldn't have bought it), Ahead comes out ahead (pun intended ) in any case.

And perhaps should take it as a wake-up call. Why would many people prefer such a "lite" version, yet still pay the full license to Nero? And why have so many written to forums such as this one, complaining about the bloatware, about the forced installation of Nero Scout, etc.? Ahead should listen to the wishes of its customers, and leave more flexibility in installation, including making Scout and its background monitor optional features. Fine to have the extra features for those who want them, but let the user decide!

Actually, it looks like that "Lite" version doesn't allow for much choice either It installs a fixed set of Nero programs- a much smaller subset than what the regular Nero installer installs, but still not much choice for the user. And what if one wants Recode or Nero Vision, not included with Nero Lite?

In any case, I hope Ahead improves its installation procedure, leaving more choice to the user. Thank you.

I don't understand why you keep asking about the Yahoo Toolbar. If someone wants it, they can download it from Yahoo for free, and install it. Why should it be bundled with Nero? I have always used the version without YT.