It you're wondering, what's "random shuffle" mode, look around main random discussing thread.

So you are saying that the order in shuffle mode is not random, but deterministic? How can I reproduce that?

In shuffle(tracks) mode, after every restart of fb2k and forcing to start at track 1, it chose a different track to continue.

Why must i restart application for it to work properly? My comp works 24/7 and i don't want to restart fb2k

? I was describing my testing method. I can't see why we need a "random shuffle mode". I ask again: are you saying a) shuffling in fb2k behaves deterministic and b) how to reproduce that?

a) Yes. It looks like the playback order is determined on program startup / playlist creation.
b) Enable Shuffle (track). Play track A, hit Next to switch to a random track B. Start to play track A and hit Next again. You will end up listening to the same track B as before.

Play some song, Write down its name.
Write down few songs thats after that song.
Play the #1 song again... U'll hear whole sequence of songs again.
Thats annoing. YES for Random Mode.

True. The thread starter has my vote.

mine too

is there anyway we can have a simple advanced shuffle, that can do pure random (1/%_playlist_count% chance of the same song playing twice) as well as a shuffle that plays a ranomized playlist in order (like current shuffle track) but that reorders the list at the end, or upon manually starting a new track (or maybe advanced options).

[x] Reshuffle playlist when track changes manually and at end of playlist
[x] Enable Shuffle (Random) mode that is like 0.8.3 random

thats my thoughts

yes, i´d love to see these features coming.

Then the same thing will happen again when people starts wondering whats the difference between Shuffle and Random. It really isn't that big of a deal

The problem here is the version .9 SDK doesn't allow a developer to implement a "true random mode" like version 8.3 SDK did. I don't mind that Peter doesn't want to add "true random mode" into Foobar or even add it as an official component (which I think is the best idea), but at least let a 3rd party developer create one.

Today's shuffle should be replaced with new shuffle ('random shuffle' or 'non-repeative shuffle), because new shuffle is better anyway. personally, i don't care about 'true random mode'. Still, 'true random' is easier to implement, so i guess it is 'true random' that will be implemented (if my feature request will be satisfied at all).

In addition to true randomness, I'd love to see a shuffle that allows customizable thresholds, such as the number of tracks that should be played before selecting a particular artist again. I've used Python scripts to implement this in the past, but I'd prefer a more configurable shuffle mode in FB2K.

Im waiting for new beta with Random and Repeat Album mode... ;(


Theres a HUGE diffrence(*rance?). I love few songs, i play one than just listen to anything goes. Than i remind that song again, play it again and i'm forced to listen bunch of songs AGAIN if i wont just change it >_> Boo, i want a random mode.

You could use playback queue in that example.

Well, my solution for randomizing is to add a "Randomizer" column containing simply $rand(). If I need the order of the song to be randomized, I just click on the column's heading. Voila! Randomness

See my "foobar2000 looks" for more sample. It's in the Upload section somewhere...

foobar drive me nut with shuffle mode (tracks) . i often use shuffle mode and after listening for 5-10 tracks I choose I track that I want to listen again , then I have only 2 choices:

- listen to the whole sequence again
- next next next until recognise the last track in the "shuffle" sequence .

I need only 1 choice ! A true RAMDOM.

Yeah I think there is finally enough support now to get "random mode" implemented into Foobar; we need random!

Shuffle mode is ok, but some people need random...

I'd like this, it annoys me quite often. But it's not top priority. A good idea would be to give more weight to (artists/albums) with less tracks, so every (artist/album) would have an equal chance of being selected.

Pfft, it should be number one on Peter's list... ...it's extremely critical...

M-m-m-m....Any progress here?