Hi.

Ok this has probably been asked a 1000 of times you may think,.. but I've checked the forum and could not find answers the fit absolutely for me

First of all: I have an topic at he EAC forum which explains my problems more detailed: http://www.digital-inn.de/exact-audio-copy...erhaps-bug.html (I'm calestyo there too )

Ok until now I've always extraced my CDs with EAC in index based mode (meaning I get files like xx.00.wav and xx.01.wav for each index).

In the post at the EAC site you can read that I thought eac gap detection method would give me exact results which is not true as far as I can see.

I've always used different methods (a, b, c) because I found none which worked for all CDs (in some cases the whole detection simply freezed

As the detected values may be wrong,.. my files may be wrong, but as far as I understood,... all data should have been extracted correctly,.. it just may be in the wrong (previous or next) file, right?

So is it defenitely sure that if I append all tracks together (e.g. using sox) and split it with the correct values (see below) then I would get everything right... just as if I'd have ripped the CD as complete image?

By the way: Do you suggest ripping as complete image in favour of index-based ripping?
As you can read in my posts at the EAC forum,.. I've often hat the "problem" that with track or index-based extraction,.. there were read errors at the end or beginning of tracks/indexes (although these were always corrected by eac).
But when I rip as complete image,.. there are no errors at all!


Now to the gap-detection itself. As far as I can see,.. EAC is not able to absolutely correctly recognize the indexes... right?
Is there any other programm that is able to do so (perhaps cdrdao? or plextools?)?
If not, what should I do,.. to secure that I get the best possible values?

If I'd could create a cue-sheet by another application that do the work absolutely correct,... I could put all my xx.xx.wav files together,.. and split them with correct cue-sheet to the exact size.

Thanks in advance,
Chris.

I stopped using EAC some 2 years ago and switched simply to Nero and BIOS of my Lite On CDRW. Reason: EAC was not able to extract the tracks and gaps layout correctly whereas Lite On itself (using its professionaly coded BIOS capabilities, with NERO, rips everything just as it is on the disc itself, not a single error so far). Do not use crap (EAC).

Uhm,.. I won't say that EAC is crap,.. anyway...
is there any other method of exactly retrieving the track/index bounds that does not require a Lite On dirve. (I "only" have a Plextor PX760A)

Chris.

1. EAC does have multiple gap-detection methods in the configuration. You should choose the one that works best with your drive.

2. IMHO, it's probably best to rip-to-image and then use ACDIR (or the newer CueTools) to copy track data out of CUE-indexed WAV/FLAC files and pass it on to the encoders.

-brendan

Yes,.. but as far as I can tell,.. the "correct" gap detection varies even from CD to CD
Have a look at this post where the issue is explained: http://www.digital-inn.de/exact-audio-copy...erhaps-bug.html

Chris.

As I read Andre's comments in the EAC forum, I think we shouldn't worry much about this problem.. It seems to be impossible to get always perfect results. As gap detection results seems to be comprehensible, it will be okay. And I think, if you have same results with your original Audio CD and with a copy you created (like I did, see other topic), you can be sure to have correct results.

At least per the methods where the results either consistently match or per the methods where the results are consistently inconsistent.

Anyway, I enthusiastically agree with Be Positive.

Over at Digital-Inn, the other programs I mentioned that can duplicate gap behavior were censored for whatever reason. I know (or at least hope ) this won't happen here at HA.

Anyway, here they are:

• PlexTools
• CloneCD
• Alcohol 120%.

PS: Do be careful when installing programs like Alcohol 120%, there are versions of this program that install SPTD which can interfere with the ripping process.

Another program that might be used for cue-file creation is cdrdao (together with toc2cue).

Chris.

EAC also has a function that can split a CD Image WAV with CUE Sheet into separate files...

Tools > Split WAV By CUE Sheet

It can prepend/append/split gaps to your liking... however if you want to put multiple files back into a single WAV + CUE its takes a little more leg work...