Hydrogenaudio Forums > Multimedia keyboards + foobar2000: A complete guide

ChronoSphere

Mar 18 2007, 19:13

QUOTE (gfngfgf @ Mar 18 2007, 18:32)

This method is mentioned in the first post (Addendum A). You need to edit the window class to match the one that Columns UI uses (instructions in the first post).

No, look carefully: (first line, Addendum A; second - mine)
foobar2000=wac,foobar2000.exe,{DA7CD0DE-1602-45e6-89A1-C2CA151E008E}/1,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,0,1,foobar2000
foobar2000=cmd,foobar2000.exe,{DA7CD0DE-1602-45e6-89A1-C2CA151E008E}/1,xxx,xxx,40009,40044,40010,40051,40011,0,1,foobar2000

I tried changing the class to the ColumnsUI one, doesn't work, all keys stop working. Maybe ColumnsUI uses different cmd IDs <.<

PedroQ

Mar 18 2007, 19:28

For those using Columns UI:

CODE

[Players]
foobar2000=wac,foobar2000.exe,
{E7076D1C-A7BF-4f39-B771-BCBE88F2A2A8},xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,0,1,foobar2000

HTH

alphameric

Apr 9 2007, 22:21

QUOTE (AlexVallat @ Mar 2 2007, 13:35)

Interesting SetPoint hacking

this is exactly what i needed.
the typical classid method outlined elsewhere does not work for Panels UI.
For your method, all i had to do was set the media buttons to silent, then boot up setpoint.
After that foobar recognized my media keys and i could set them globally

knocker

May 3 2007, 19:28

QUOTE (AlexVallat @ Mar 2 2007, 19:35)

Interesting SetPoint hacking

I've been using a Logitech keyboard with multimedia keys successfully for a while now, by not having SetPoint installed, but recently got myself a Logitech mouse too. Now I need to have SetPoint running, and it grabs hold of control of the keyboard too, ruining all the multimedia keys which used to work just fine.

I've been hacking about with SetPoint for some time, and come across the following. If you close SetPoint, then open your settings file in \Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Logitech\SetPoint\user.xml, you should find a Device element with the DisplayName of your keyboard, and Class="KeyboardDevice". In it, there are a bunch of Button elements, with nice descriptive Names. Find the buttons you want to fix, and for each one, look inside the Trigger element for a Param element which has an attribute Silent="0". Change that to Silent="1". Once you've done that to all the media buttons you want to fix, save the file, and start SetPoint again. Those buttons with Silent="0" you can still set the behaviour for in SetPoint (which is handy for those buttons which don't have a standard behaviour), and those buttons with Silent="1" behave as if SetPoint was not running. Result!

Hope this is useful to others too,

Alex

Thats definitely useful, works perfectly! Thanks alot ~

PS: I quoted the whole post so people dont have to look for it

math

Jun 15 2007, 02:53

QUOTE (AlexVallat @ Mar 2 2007, 19:35)

I've been hacking about with SetPoint for some time, and come across the following. If you close SetPoint, then open your settings file in \Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Logitech\SetPoint\user.xml, you should find a Device element with the DisplayName of your keyboard, and Class="KeyboardDevice". In it, there are a bunch of Button elements, with nice descriptive Names. Find the buttons you want to fix, and for each one, look inside the Trigger element for a Param element which has an attribute Silent="0". Change that to Silent="1". Once you've done that to all the media buttons you want to fix, save the file, and start SetPoint again. Those buttons with Silent="0" you can still set the behaviour for in SetPoint (which is handy for those buttons which don't have a standard behaviour), and those buttons with Silent="1" behave as if SetPoint was not running. Result!

This is THE method for dealing with Setpoint, don't bother with all that other complicated id stuff... this is easy and works.

Pingue

Jun 15 2007, 12:34

Has anyone got any idea how to un register such keys from WMP. I have an Acer Laptop with media keys only with the Fn button, but they still only register to WMP. at the moment, I'm just using Ctrl-Alt instead of Fn. Are there some registry values to get rid of this??? Thanks!

sandeep108

Jun 15 2007, 12:40

Nice post. But problem is there with MS Intellitype. I see no point in disabling the MM keys just to get them working when fb2k is minimised. Then in other media players they do not work. Rather leave fb2k window open and they work just fine. Of course volume is still tied to windows volume and not fb2k, but well, how much does that matter?

MiSP

Jun 15 2007, 16:19

QUOTE (math @ Jun 15 2007, 02:53)

QUOTE (AlexVallat @ Mar 2 2007, 19:35)

I've been hacking about with SetPoint for some time, and come across the following. If you close SetPoint, then open your settings file in \Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Logitech\SetPoint\user.xml, you should find a Device element with the DisplayName of your keyboard, and Class="KeyboardDevice". In it, there are a bunch of Button elements, with nice descriptive Names. Find the buttons you want to fix, and for each one, look inside the Trigger element for a Param element which has an attribute Silent="0". Change that to Silent="1". Once you've done that to all the media buttons you want to fix, save the file, and start SetPoint again. Those buttons with Silent="0" you can still set the behaviour for in SetPoint (which is handy for those buttons which don't have a standard behaviour), and those buttons with Silent="1" behave as if SetPoint was not running. Result!

This is THE method for dealing with Setpoint, don't bother with all that other complicated id stuff... this is easy and works.

I just tried this, and can confirm that it works perfectly. Note that using Logitech DiNovo Edge, the keys to be changed is Name=F5 to Name=F8 - there's no nice descripting names for "next" or "previous" or the likes unless you dig a little deeper.

Mesingel

Jul 20 2007, 22:18

QUOTE (AlexVallat @ Mar 2 2007, 20:35)

Interesting SetPoint hacking

I've been using a Logitech keyboard with multimedia keys successfully for a while now, by not having SetPoint installed, but recently got myself a Logitech mouse too. Now I need to have SetPoint running, and it grabs hold of control of the keyboard too, ruining all the multimedia keys which used to work just fine.

I've been hacking about with SetPoint for some time, and come across the following. If you close SetPoint, then open your settings file in \Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Logitech\SetPoint\user.xml, you should find a Device element with the DisplayName of your keyboard, and Class="KeyboardDevice". In it, there are a bunch of Button elements, with nice descriptive Names. Find the buttons you want to fix, and for each one, look inside the Trigger element for a Param element which has an attribute Silent="0". Change that to Silent="1". Once you've done that to all the media buttons you want to fix, save the file, and start SetPoint again. Those buttons with Silent="0" you can still set the behaviour for in SetPoint (which is handy for those buttons which don't have a standard behaviour), and those buttons with Silent="1" behave as if SetPoint was not running. Result!

Hope this is useful to others too,

Alex

YOU TOTALLY PWN !
At last, after 2 days of (intensive) browsing, I finally found someone who struck the answer, AND ACTUALLY CARED TO SHARE IT!
<3 Alex!

Oh yeah, I use a UltraX Cordless Desktop, and it worked like a charm.

trackfan504

Jul 21 2007, 05:44

Interesting topic! Got everything working by reading through entire post but dang volume control.

Setpoint 4.0
Logiblech S510
XP Sp2
Foobar 9.4.3
columns ui 0.13 beta

Once I figured out to use notepad.exe to edit user.xml instead of Iexploder I for sure thought inserting "1" to volume up/down silent trigger did the trick!
When in try to configure fb keyboard shortcuts and press volume + or - nothing shows up in Key box.

Also learned it pays off to first read entire post before banging your head against the wall for little switches like /1

Any other tips to get volume button to behave?

Using e-mu 1820m pci soundcard if that makes any difference.
Cheers

AlexVallat

Jul 21 2007, 08:06

Thanks for the kind words, Mesingel!

trackfan504, the volume buttons work for me (Logitech Media Keyboard Elite), so in principle there's no reason why they shouldn't work.

Things to try:

Is set-point still handling the volume keys - does the OSD show up?
Do the volume buttons show in the keyboard shortcut box when SetPoint is not running?
Do the volume keys actually change the main volume control when SetPoint is not running?
What were the names of the volume Button elements that you changed? Mine are "Volume Up Controller" (number 786665) and "Volume Down Controller" (number 786666).
I assume as you got the other keys working that the changes to user.xml have been recognised by SetPoint, which means you changed the right file, and SetPoint wasn't running while you did it.

Alex

trackfan504

Jul 22 2007, 06:41

trackfan504, the volume buttons work for me (Logitech Media Keyboard Elite), so in principle there's no reason why they shouldn't work.

In principle...I should have figured this out by now

Things to try:

Is set-point still handling the volume keys - does the OSD show up? Nope, even playing
WMP10 , no OSD
Do the volume buttons show in the keyboard shortcut box when SetPoint is not running? no, either with or w/o setpoint, nuttin' in Key box.
Do the volume keys actually change the main volume control when SetPoint is not running? No
What were the names of the volume Button elements that you changed? Mine are "Volume Up Controller" (number 786665) and "Volume Down Controller" (number 786666). Same ID for S510 elements.
I assume as you got the other keys working that the changes to user.xml have been recognised by SetPoint, which means you changed the right file, and SetPoint wasn't running while you did it.

Yes, even without hacking xml, anything but volume control seems to be working fine.

Another thing that kinda blows with Setpoint software is --> S3 standby no longer works properly....but I digress.

Thanks for the feedback.

Alex
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AlexVallat

Jul 22 2007, 08:07

QUOTE (trackfan504 @ Jul 22 2007, 06:41)

Do the volume keys actually change the main volume control when SetPoint is not running? No

That would seem to suggest that the keyboard is not actually sending volume up and volume down keypresses when those keys are pressed. Which in turn suggests that they will only work with SetPoint handling them, as they aren't normal buttons but some sort of custom hardware that only SetPoint can detect. Bad news, I'm afraid.

Getting a bit off-topic with the standby, but you might look into the device properties of the keyboard (and mouse, if SetPoint controlled) in the device manager, and unchecking "Allow this device to bring the computer out of standby" on the "Power Management" tab.

trackfan504

Jul 22 2007, 19:58

QUOTE (AlexVallat @ Jul 21 2007, 23:07)

QUOTE (trackfan504 @ Jul 22 2007, 06:41)

Do the volume keys actually change the main volume control when SetPoint is not running? No

That would seem to suggest that the keyboard is not actually sending volume up and volume down keypresses when those keys are pressed. Which in turn suggests that they will only work with SetPoint handling them, as they aren't normal buttons but some sort of custom hardware that only SetPoint can detect. Bad news, I'm afraid.

As mentioned, I tried volume control either with or without running Setpoint. Since it doesn't work in either with foobar or any other media player I suspect hardware is kaput.

Getting a bit off-topic with the standby, but you might look into the device properties of the keyboard (and mouse, if SetPoint controlled) in the device manager, and unchecking "Allow this device to bring the computer out of standby" on the "Power Management" tab.

Anything researched has been tried to make S3 get along with logitech, from reg hacks to dumppo.exe, nic adapter switches, USB and contol devices enabled/disabled/installed/uninstalled. PC either gets to S1 (fans and HDDs spinning), freezes with 'preparing for standby' greeting or starts right back up. I have a lot of gear hanging off this machine, midi controllers, instruments, e-sata drives, NAS and network printer. I am prolly reaching and therefore just gave up. I suspect a few applications such as Cubase 4 or Acid Pro may mess with volume control from this keyboard. I'm chasing this one more out of interest (the inner geek) since I use Mackie's Big Knob to change levels. Thanks again!

Thanasis159

Jul 27 2007, 12:51

I did what you said in Addendum A but it didn't work for me. I have Logitech EX110 wireless desktop( keyboard and mouse), I am using windows xp service pack 2 with all the latest updates, my foobar version is 0.9.4.3, the multimedia buttons work when the foobar window is focused but not when it is minimized or another window is focused. I use columns ui along with many other plugins. Any help appreciated!

Manic

Nov 8 2008, 04:20

Beautiful!! can confirm that it works perfectly with a Dell USB enhanced multimedia keyboard on Vista Business. The embedded multimedia buttons on my Toshiba Satellite Pro U200 also seem to work without any extra configs, except for the launcher, which insists on opening WMP.

To make foobar open instead of WMP youll also need to go to the Control Panel and change the default app for .cda there, as well as in foobar 2k.

aziz

Nov 8 2008, 20:23

Thank you very much brotha!

foshelan

Nov 8 2008, 22:31

Thank you buddy
It's really a great and detailed manual that I search
This gives me a lot of help

Mangix

Nov 9 2008, 09:06

i have an hp keyboard. i have the drivers and playback buttons work. but only when foobar2000 is in focus. if i try adding the playback keys as global shortcuts, foobar2000 can't add them for some reason. foo_appcommand made it work but foo_appcommand doesn't work with foobar2000 0.9.6. any ideas on how to get it to work?

Paft

May 19 2009, 13:00

Hello,

at default media keys work, but only when in focus. Setting the keys then setting 'global' forces to use them for foo regardless of what other app is in focus. So both ways are as useless as each other to me. No way to get it to work like, erm, normal? It is such a minor issue but one that is stopping me from using it.

Paft

May 19 2009, 23:25

Shortening my comment.

Global hotkey mediakeys don't work in the way "it should". When set to gobal the keys then only work for Foo and nothing else.

novembre

May 19 2009, 23:56

That's the point of GLOBAL hotkeys, they work even if foobar is not in focus. If you don't need this function, just disable Global Hotkey.

Paft

May 21 2009, 05:41

QUOTE (novembre @ May 19 2009, 22:56)

That's the point of GLOBAL hotkeys, they work even if foobar is not in focus. If you don't need this function, just disable Global Hotkey.

But then they only work when foo is in focus.

Winamp you can still control it when it isn't in focus, so long as no other app that uses mediakeys is in focus.

cipher_nemo

Jun 10 2009, 19:22

I have the same problem as the OP, even years later. I will try adding the line in SetPoint tonight and see if that helps. I'm also playing LOTRO on Windows 7 RC-1 with Foobar2000 and unfortunately, Foobar2000 is the issue here when combined with Setpoint.

I'll report if it helps me.

cipher_nemo

Jun 11 2009, 05:54

Nope, no go. I installed Visual Studio 2010 Professional any ways since I'm a software engineer who uses VS 2008 and since the 2010 was a free Beta.

I then used Microsoft Spy++ 64-bit to get the class ID of Foobar2000 version 0.9.6.8, which is: {97E27FAA-C0B3-4b8e-A693-ED7881E99FC1}

I add that foobar line to my Setpoint utility's ini file with this new class ID and still no go. In fact, I completely exited Setpoint and all Logitech G15 keyboard utilities, and this is still a no go.

On Windows 7 RC-1 with Foobar2000, I am unable to use any global keys for it when I run Lord of the Rings Online (LOTRO). I am running both as Administrator too under their executable properties.

Still broken after 3 years.

cipher_nemo

Jun 12 2009, 14:53

Just to update my issue, foobar's global hotkeys works in other apps, just not LOTRO. But Winamp's global hotkeys work in LOTRO. I guess I'll have to see if Turbine can fix this in LOTRO for Windows 7.

vogliadicane

Jun 27 2009, 13:13

I´m using a HP multi media keyboard (RK713A) together with the touchsmart PC. All media keys work (by default) except the forward and rewind keys. They can´t be set in the keyboard shortcut dialog. All other keys could be set the way described here (but are ok anyway).

Does anybody know what to do to fix this or some workaround to get an entry in the dialog?

running:

-Vista 64bit SP1
-foobar 0.9.6.7

Relja

Jul 24 2009, 22:29

Hello.. i tryed what u wrote in your 1st post, but it didnt work

I use Windows 7 RC, my Foobar version is 0.9.6.8.
I am using razer lycosa keyboard. I tryed to uninstall its drivers, but still nothing..
When i associate foobar with cda files, and i turn it off.. i press my media key but than media players opens instead of foobar.
I read a bit on razer homepage FAQ and there is : Q;A - Can i use my media keys in some other programs than Media player, ITUNES, Winamp and Real player, and the Answer is no

When I uninstalled my drivers, media keys dont work at all, and In driver program.. i have to chose one of those 4 programs for media keyes..
Is there any solution for this?

I am sorry for my bad english.

Lebon14

Sep 28 2009, 09:59

Sorry to hijack this thread but I need help.
* What didn't work

Everything... I use SetPoint 4.8 with a Logitech Media Keyboard Elite.

* Whether the media keys work in foobar when it's focused

Nothing. SetPoint didn't recognise Foobar 0.9.6.9 so... no keys are working.

* Your version of Windows

Windows Vista Home Premium SP2. I would also add Windows 7 RC on Dual-boot.

* Your version of Foobar

Like I said above... 0.9.6.9

* What keyboard you're using

*sigh* Logitech Media Keyboard Elite.

* What drivers / software you have installed for your keyboard

Logitech's... aka SetPoint

* Anything else you think might be relevant

Yeah. I've also set foobar as my CDA player but pushing the Media Button on my keyboard opes iTunes instead of foobar2000. (Btw, iTunes is there only to buy music... nothing else).
Foobar doesn't recognize the Play/pause button... neither the Play one... etc.

Thanks for your help.

cryticfarm

Sep 28 2009, 13:10

My sidewinder keyboard will not work. It does work however if I stop the intellitype software, but that means my macros do not work.

karlol

Oct 29 2009, 23:03

WORKS!

setup:
- logitech media keyboard 600
- windows7 x64
- foobar2000 v0.9.6.9 w/ columns ui
- set point 4.80
- class-id: {E7076D1C-A7BF-4f39-B771-BCBE88F2A2A8}

thanks thanks

karlol

Oct 29 2009, 23:13

QUOTE (Lebon14 @ Sep 28 2009, 09:59)

Sorry to hijack this thread but I need help.
* What didn't work

Everything... I use SetPoint 4.8 with a Logitech Media Keyboard Elite.

* Whether the media keys work in foobar when it's focused

Nothing. SetPoint didn't recognise Foobar 0.9.6.9 so... no keys are working.

* Your version of Windows

Windows Vista Home Premium SP2. I would also add Windows 7 RC on Dual-boot.

* Your version of Foobar

Like I said above... 0.9.6.9

* What keyboard you're using

*sigh* Logitech Media Keyboard Elite.

* What drivers / software you have installed for your keyboard

Logitech's... aka SetPoint

* Anything else you think might be relevant

Yeah. I've also set foobar as my CDA player but pushing the Media Button on my keyboard opes iTunes instead of foobar2000. (Btw, iTunes is there only to buy music... nothing else).
Foobar doesn't recognize the Play/pause button... neither the Play one... etc.

Thanks for your help.

similiar setup to mine, so here is what i did:

1. configurate your keyboard shortcuts in foobar2000, don't forget to check "global shortcut"
2. move to your setpoint directory (for example: C:\Program Files\Logitech\SetPoint)
3. open the file "players.ini"
4. add one of the following lines to the [players] section:

- if you use the default interface in foobar, add this line:

CODE

foobar2000=wac,foobar2000.exe,{97E27FAA-C0B3-4b8e-A693-ED7881E99FC1},xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,0,1,foobar2000

- if you use Columns UI, add this line:

CODE

foobar2000=wac,foobar2000.exe,{E7076D1C-A7BF-4f39-B771-BCBE88F2A2A8},xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,0,1,foobar2000

5. save the file ;D
6. restart setpoint (exit, start)
7. should work now

Lebon14

Oct 30 2009, 20:44

I kind of solved my own problem.
The thing is that Windows' default driver for multimedia keyboard is 1000 times better than Logitech's. Hell, if I press "Media" on my keyboard, it doesn't open iTunes anymore. It opens Foobar! Like I want. With Logitech's driver, I couldn't make foobar recognize that I was pressing Next, previous, play/pause, stop, volume up, volume down & mute. Without it, it recognize it right away!!

So, without further ado, I say : Logitech drivers are TRASH!!!