As I am sure all regular ogg users will know, it is now possible to specify a quality setting as the encoding level as opposed to a bitrate setting. This utilises VBR mode more fully.

So as to be able to exploit this easily, I have taken the liberty of creating a new version of oggdrop, called 'Qoggdrop' which provides for selection of quality levels 1 thru 10 (low->high). This version, only in the original colours at present, will soon be available at: http://www.inf.ufpr.br/~rja00/ for you to try out.

Q1 equates to approx 80kbps and Q10 to about 500kbps! 5 is about 160 and 6 is about 192. I would really appreciate some feedback as to whether this is a useful addition to the range.

john33

This is a very good idea (quality goes does go down to 0, by the way, which is nominally 64 kpbs).

Ideally I'd like to see an oggdrop which allowed you to either set a bitrate or a quality setting, and had a 'custom' option which would open up a box allowing you to set non-typical options (such as my current favourite: a quality setting of 5.1).

Combined with the sheer lack of quality TV here in the UK at the moment, and the hostile atmosphere in my house (almost-mother-in-law visiting), I'm almost tempted to program something in Windows for the first time in years

Yes, this is cool stuff. Good work john33 (I haven't checked it out yet though ). I agree with Jon's ideas also:



Or better yet, howabout a slider bar which snaps to x.0 values but increments in .1 values? That'd be really nifty IMO.

The file is already available.

Regards;

Roberto.

OK guys, I get the picture!! Give me some time and I will see what I can do.

john33

It would be nice if QOggDrop would remind my settings.
OggDrop is a nice program, but as long it loses "all" (it aren't that much at the moment) setting when you quit it, it's nearly useless. But swince it isn't written in perl, I had to wait for someobody tweaking it. THX John...
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BTW: Will it be a complete Encoder or just a frontend for oggenc (as RazorLame is for lame)? To me a frontend seems the much better solution since it hasn't to be updated every new enoder release etc.

You can get an Ogg frontend here: http://home.wanadoo.nl/~w.speek/oggifier.htm

OK

There will soon be a further update to the oggdrop saga, BQoggdrop to be found at the usual site: http://www.inf.ufpr.br/~rja00/ .

Taking the above suggestions, this version offers both bitrate selection and quality selection on a 'one or the other basis'. Selection of a quality setting overrides bitrate selection. See the text file provided to find out how it works.

Bitrate options are as before; Quality options range from 0.0 to 10 in 0.2 increments.

Before anyone has any further bright ideas, I feel that this is probably about as complicated as oggdrop ought to get. If you want to be any more specific in your option selections, you should probably use oggenc where all your options are open.

Give it a try. Please let me know what you think. If this meets with general approval, I suggest that this should replace my other offerings of oggdrop on the above site.

have fun!!

john33

Already uploaded! And seems to work very well.

Regards;

Roberto.

If anyone is interested, and assuming no errors show up in the next couple of days, I will post the sources for this and the DLL at the usual place. http://www.inf.ufpr.br/~rja00/

For oggdrop, the resource file has been modified so as to be able to use it with MinGW32, but it would only take a moment to amend it back for MSVC.

The DLL code originates from the CDex source and that will be posted in full.

john33

Please do - I'm beginning to get interested in returning to Windows programming, and it would be useful to see the source code to a program like this.
Thanks for all your work on this.

My apologies to anyone who has downloaded any of the new BQoggdrops. I just remembered about an hour ago that someone did report that oggdrop, and this only applies to oggdrop, was not checking and remembering quality menu selections. This has now been corrected and new versions of BQoggdrop uploaded to Roberto. I have asked him to post here when these are up at his site.

Please note, If you have encoded anything with the quality setting, it will be coded correctly. The fault is only in the menu system.

Sorry!!

john33:(

Already available at http://www.inf.ufpr.br/~rja00/

Regards;

Roberto.