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sovereignncc-e
I have been ripping my CD collection to FLAC as individual songs using EAC and AutoFLAC and creating .cue sheets as I go. As is inevitable when ripping large quantities of CDs, there are some CDs that didn't get named right/get the right FLAC tags. I was wondering if there were a program that will change FLAC tags and rename files and then update the .cue sheet to reflect the changes. I have found programs that will edit the FLAC tags, but so far, I have had to edit the .cue sheets manually.
greynol
I don't think there's anything out there that will do this.

Since you're ripping separate tracks, why are cue sheets important to you?
sovereignncc-e
From what I gathered, I thought that CUE sheets are necessary to burn perfect backup copies of the CDs, which is an option that I want to leave open considering that I am ripping losslessly.
Mangix
nope. for 1 FLAC or 1 WAV file, CUE sheets are necessary. but i don't believe that you need them for separate tracks.
Cosmo
You don't need a cue sheet IF you don't care about track indexes beyond 00, which includes "pregaps" and tracks that are divided into multiple parts.

Whether it helps to get a "perfect copy" depends upon your definition of such. But there's certainly nothing wrong with trying to copy the original index layout / positions as accurately as possible, if that's what you like.
sovereignncc-e
What exactly do you mean by "You don't need a cue sheet IF you don't care about track indexes beyond 00"? Aren't all tracks beyond 00 (01, 02, etc.)? I was under the impression that CUE sheets supplied information about the CD layout that just ripping all of the tracks didn't: something about the gaps inbetween tracks. I also thought that CUE sheets were needed for true gapless playback. Would CUE sheets be necessary for ripping classical music and live performances where the track splits the music?
Synthetic Soul
QUOTE(sovereignncc-e @ Dec 22 2006, 05:38) *
What exactly do you mean by "You don't need a cue sheet IF you don't care about track indexes beyond 00"? Aren't all tracks beyond 00 (01, 02, etc.)?
He said INDEX, not TRACK - different things.

QUOTE(sovereignncc-e @ Dec 22 2006, 05:38) *
I was under the impression that CUE sheets supplied information about the CD layout that just ripping all of the tracks didn't: something about the gaps inbetween tracks.
Yes. The cuesheet will store INDEX 0 to INDEX n, but by splitting to tracks you only have INDEX 1 timing information. INDEX 2+ are rarely used so let's forget them. INDEX 0 indexes are the ones that make your CD player count up from a negative number. They will sometimes contain audio, e.g.:, on a live CD the INDEX 0 position may be the point at which the last track finishes and the singer starts talking, and the INDEX 1 position will be the actual start of the next track. If you don't have a cuesheet and split to tracks (and append gaps to the previous track) you do not have any less audio data than if you have a cuesheet. Having a cuesheet simply allows you to recreate the INDEX 0 or INDEX 2+ indexes on the CD when you burn.

QUOTE(sovereignncc-e @ Dec 22 2006, 05:38) *
I also thought that CUE sheets were needed for true gapless playback.
Not sure where this came from. If you left out gaps with EAC then you may lose gaplessness, but most people just append them to the previous track.

QUOTE(sovereignncc-e @ Dec 22 2006, 05:38) *
Would CUE sheets be necessary for ripping classical music and live performances where the track splits the music?
That's often the example quoted (see above smile.gif).
dv1989
You'll lose extra things like ISRC/UPC codes, FLAGS, CD-Text, etc. - which cuesheets can store, should you wish to retain them.
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