Howdy,
When will the Windows Installer be updated?
It has been ages since released and still 1.1.3 is up!
Thanks

I know, sorry about that. the last word I had from Mike is that he's still having problems getting DLLs registered on vista.

I dLoaded the 1.1.4 zip file, unzipped it, opened the bin directory. I copied the 4 .exe files to the same place in the installed flac 1.1.3 version (renamed the existing extensions to .113 first) and did the same with the .dll to the Winamp/Plugins directory.

It seemed to work (although I am having some weirdlies with Winamp now, but I upped it to 5.33 after).

Is this how to get v1.1.4 without the installer? Anything else need to be done?

Put in your Program Files\Winamp folder: (or provide your own libFLAC.dll)
http://stashbox.org/14137/libFLAC.dll

Put in your Program Files\Winamp\Plugins folder:
http://stashbox.org/14138/in_flac.dll

This will be included in 5.34

Put them in and checked real quick......seems to have fixed 'er up!

For anybody else, my Winamp problem was that is wouldn't seem to add the .flac files (only the mp3) per album folder. Manually adding got them in, but with limited info; it seemed to read from file names rather than tag info...wasn't good anyway.

All seems well now.......thanks much benski!

I've just installed this one. Got a problem tho. Winamp crash every time I try to pause a flac file.

Yup, is an old bug which has since been fixed in the latest version of the in_flac 2.0 plugin.

I'm not sure whether Benski will post the updated plugin here or not,
or whether you're just going to have to wait for 5.34.

There's also been a few other changes made to the plugin since then, eg.
FLAC Info Editor: Genre drop-down uses genres.txt, tabbing order fixed, columns rearranged, etc.

I also found this bug.

Besides that, it also seems that flac files are not loudness adjusted according to their replay gain values when I use this 1.1.4 plugin. My mp3's are all adjusted fine but flac files aren't.
To test this I manually adjusted the replay gain value for a file (in fb2k) to -15 dB, but it still sounds awfully loud compared to my mp3 files. Strangely though, the file info box correctly shows the replaygain value to be -15 dB. Using the 1.1.2e plugin it all works normally.

Piet

Still no installer?

Update for the Winamp plugin:

I apologize for the previous bugs - we're still in a QA/Beta cycle.

Copy this to your Program Files\Winamp folder (note: no change in this file from previous version a few posts up)
http://stashbox.org/14137/libFLAC.dll

Copy this to your Program Files\Winamp\Plugins
http://stashbox.org/14467/in_flac.dll

thanks guys

Thanks benski for the quick fix. This new version fixes both the pause-bug and the replaygain issue.

Thanks for the update benksi! Pausing works like a charm now :-)

Found another problem now. When I start a song and goes to the middle or the end of it by clicking the slider sometimes strange things happen. The slider can sometimes jump back to the middle of the song and sometimes it jumps to the very end of the song so it looks like the song is ended (but it's still playing.. and showing positive time counting up instead of negative counting down)

Maybe a bit dizzy writing but it's late and I hope you get it

Strange. No-one can reproduce this. Are you maybe using some 3rd-party output plugin (eg. out_ks or out_asio)?

The official winamp flac plugin also doesn't properly works with Last.fm or Albumlist. I think it has something to do with only partial tag support.

By "official winamp flac plugin" do you mean that one that comes with the FLAC distribution, or the one that comes with the Winamp installer (5.33 and up)?

The plugin that comes with FLAC should only be used for older (2.x) versions of Winamp.

Josh: can we get in_flac dropped from the FLAC installer? Starting with Winamp 5.34, users can 'upgrade' FLAC simply by copying a new libFLAC.dll into Program Files\Winamp (unless the FLAC API changes again)

I mean Nullsoft FLAC Decoder v1.1.2e, included in Winamp 5.33.

Could be. I know I've used another output plugin before but not sure what I'm using now. Will try to disable some plugins when I get home in 6 hours or so.

The official Nullsoft plugin is now in_flac 2.0 (based on FLAC 1.1.4),
as included with Winamp 5.34 Beta

Now supports Extended Fields (Album Artist, Composer, Disc#, Publisher, Encoded)

Hi, I've just tried the new version. I'm afraid both problems still persist: Albumlist is unable to retrieve metadata from files (such as the album name, album lenght, etc), and last.fm client doesn't detect winamp is playing.
However, I noticed that while last.fm only has problems with flac files, detecting every mp3 file, albumlist is still unable to retrieve metadata from mp3 files. It was working fine previously, so my guess is that something changed in the 5.33 release.
I can try with other formats to see if the problems still occur, if you require.

My guess is that they're not getting metadata the "proper" way. I'll look at the albumlist code (pretty sure it's open source) and see what's going on.

I'm using the new Winamp beta with FLAC 2.0 plugin. When I put FLAC files in the playlist, and Winamp reads the tags (FLAC file info), it shows the entire directory and filename instead of what is in the artist / title field and time.

Yup, it's listed under the Known Issues section of the 5.34 Beta thread on the Winamp forums.

Basically, it means that you've disabled Advanced Title Formatting in Winamp > Prefs > Titles

(the beta bug being that this causes the full path & filename to be displayed, instead of just the filename).

To fix it, enable ATF and set a suitable ATF string, eg.

[%artist% - ]$if2(%title%,$filepart(%filename%))

[%artist% - ][%album% - ][$num(%track%,2) - ]$if2(%title%,$filepart(%filename%))

$filepart(%filename%)

or whatever

Didn't think to look in that area, I checked tech support and bug reports though (a few hours ago). Thanks, looks like its already going to be fixed by next version.

yeah, I asked that Mike keep it out for flac-1.1.4. I would prefer it not be in there anymore.

A bit more then 6 hours, I know, but now I finally got some time over

Anyway, I used the Directsound output plugin. I've now also tried with the waveout plugin but the same problem there. I also disabled many other plugins that's not standard, but no luck there either. Have tested with many different flac files too.
I recorded a video so it should be a bit easier to see the problem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp0CK6wO1t8

As you can see it's slow and a bit strange acting overall. One thing you should take a look at is that when I play a file twice in a row it runs perfect the second time. My guess is that there's some king of buffering problem, what do you think?
I also went back to 1.1.2 again to remember what that was like and I saw no signs of delays with the seek bar there.

Hope this info is to some help. I'm glad to help you more if you got any other idea of what could cause the problem

@ ZnOOZer

Can you please confirm that you're using Nullsoft FLAC Decoder v2.0 (as included with Winamp 5.34 Beta Full), and not the in_flac included with the FLAC 1.1.4 package.

If you are definitely using the latest Nullsoft in_flac, then could you possibly upload a sample flac file somewhere (zip it up first) to eg. sendspace.com and post the link here.

Yep, I'm using the Nullsoft FLAC decoder.
Just found out that the problem doesn't show up when using classic skins, just for the modern ones.

The only modern skin-related problem I've ever experienced resulted out of Desktop Alpha Blending being enabled. It can heavily drain CPU performance, possibly causing Winamp to suffer stability issues while using the FLAC input plug-in. Make sure Alpha Blending is disabled.

Hm, all this reminds me of the behaviour of my TAK plugin if used with Winamp 5.x: Delays of the seekbar (but not of the playback itself), which vanish, if you switch to the classic skin....

The plot thickens....

Alas, we still can't reproduce it


@ TBeck
TAK plugin?

I was talking about the playback plugin i wrote for my lossless audio compressor TAK: TAK Winamp plugin

I wrote it for Winamp 2.x, possibly there are some compatibility issues if used for 5.3x?

There is now a newer Nullsoft in_flac v2.0 available via:
Winamp 5.34 Beta, Build 1178.

in_flac-specific changes
* Fixed: FLAC files showing full path in playlist when ATF is disabled
* Fixed: in_flac trying to play non-existent .flac entries instead of skipping over them
* Fixed: Crash with .flac and .wav files when using CuePlayer plugin


Full changelog

Can someone give tell me the proper way to upgrade from 1.1.3 to 1.1.4, as 1.1.4 doesn't have the installer yet? I've downloaded flac-1.1.4-win.zip, but I'm not sure what to do with the files, and don't want to totally screw up things.
Thanks!!

Simply replace (overwrite) the old executables with the new.

You may want to do a find in Explorer for FLAC.EXE and METAFLAC.EXE if you don't know where the current executables are. If you previously used the installer I would assume "Program Files\FLAC" though.

Still no updated installer. Is there an ETA?
Thanks

Thanks for the help. Do I need to do anything with the COPYING.GPL files? (and I'm assuming the files in the Doc folder are just for documentation)

The Nullsoft in_flac v2.0 is updated again and is included in the new build:
Winamp 5.34 Beta, Build 1195.

in_flac-specific changes
* Fixed: Winamp freezes when seeking paused flac files


Full changelog


Thanks to benski, DJ-Egg and the rest in the Winamp team!

sorry, I've had no word from mike lately.

I'm thinking I need to commission a windows installer from some volunteer. I would like to have it be open source and in CVS so I can build it also. if anyone has the NSI (or other suitable) skills and wants to contribute, let me know.

Josh

I think I will stay with 1.1.3 until that installer is updated

If you already have FLAC then there is no point. Just download the updated executables and replace the old ones. It's not difficult.

Could we or Josh or somebody who assembles a package for Josh, offer a 1.1.4 package for download instead of the windows1.1.3.installer ?
So, instead of the outdated 1.1.3installer, we offer 1.1.4 with a help text file all included in a zip, where which specified files should be copied into, like into windows-system32 directory or what/whereever.
At least, until we have a real 1.1.4installer, this package is a better solution than offering 1.1.3installer.

that's already there, if you follow the (tools only) link on the download page to http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.p...ackage_id=12675

edit: ah, maybe you meant that includes all the extra stuff that is in the installer...

of course, if I write "replace the 1.1.3 installer" with 1.1.4 , then I mean it that way,
as of today, 3rd April, there is still the 1.1.3b installer.
Please, remove this 1.1.3 thing, and replace either with link to normal 1.1.4 download, or zip a small package with txt file, which explains howto "install" flac114.

Links are broken here http://flac.sourceforge.net/download.html

windows installer ready for testing: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=54439

Thanks for all the great work and also the new installer!
Especially the new feature (since 1.1.3) of embedding pictures is great.

But unfortunately if you want to embed many or very large pictures you'll have a problem:
Since every time you embed a larger image the whole file has to be re-written (unfortunately the metadata are at the beginning of the file) it can take quite a while to embed all images in a large FLAC file. To avoid this you have two choices: either embed all images at one using a very long command line or add sufficient padding.

But either way you may run into problems: When a command line gets longer than 2047 or 8191 characters (depending on your version of windows) it won't work. And as far as I know neither flac.exe nor metaflac.exe accept parameters from a text file (which would solve this problem). For embedding many images (especially with long file names and maybe descriptions) this could get problematic. So I figured that providing for enough padding seems the way to go. But metaflac.exe only allows padding up to < 2^24 bytes (16MB). That may seem a lot - but when you're adding hi-res scans to a complete CD image it often is not enough.

flac.exe doesn't seem to have this limitation, but even with lots of padding metaflac.exe still re-writes the file for (almost) every embedded image...

Any suggestions?

are you saying that if you metaflac --import-picture-from several large pictures, that it will rewrite the file for each picture addition? it's written to only rewrite the file once after all ops have been processed.

I can see the problem with commandline-length limitations. I don't know why the windows limit is so small. on practically every other modern OS this is not a problem.

No, I meant that to avoid such long command lines I would like to add every image separately (in a batch file) - after adding sufficient padding first. But even with several times the amount of padding needed (e.g. after adding it while encoding with flac.exe - which seems to allow bigger paddings) metaflac still rewrites the file even when there is more than enough padding left.

It seems to me that not only metaflac can't add such large paddings but either that flac.exe also has a problem with them (without saying so) or that metaflac can't even utilize pre-existing large paddings.


Microsoft commented on this problem here. Don't know about Vista but I doubt that this has changed. What else would you expect from the "640 Kilobyte ought to be enough for anybody"-company. I think it would be great if an option could be added to (meta)flac which allows to read other parameters from a text file:


This would certainly solve my problem by eliminating the need for huge paddings (although if those would work it would be cool, too ).

Hi Josh,

The new installer seemed to work fine on my XP install. I had the older 1.1.2a installed and it prompted to uninstall it and seemed to work fine. (Nitpick: On the uninstall text from your installer it mentions "Winamp now comes with Flac support, maybe mention a specific version number like "Winamp 5.34 and higher")

Anyway, it looks like the FLAC Frontend tagger component does not have the updated code that was mentioned in this thread to not overwrite the FLAC version string. (With your current installer tagger.exe program overwrites the FLAC version string with 1.1.2 if you tag the file with FLAC Frontend.)

On a different note, the author of the Windows FLAC Tester program, would he allow that program to be included with the Windows installer? I have found that to be a great tool to test my flacs after I back them up to a different drive, etc.

Can anybody confirm that metaflac can't handle such large paddings (even if they were created without error by flac)?