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xequence
I'm not sure if I am putting this in the right forum, so if not, i'm sorry about that.

I am doing a project for school on the loudness race. I've googled it and found many good pages on it, but knowing that there are people here who know this subject extremely well, i'd like to ask you all here if you know of any sites on the subject of the loudness race that you recommend?

Or, does anyone here know if there is something else about it that isn't generally known, or anything that should definitally be in my project?
Hollunder
I saw a youtube-video somewhere around here some time ago, it might be useful for a presentation or somethign like that.
I guess it could be important that the most common ways to show the effects of the loudness race, like audio editor graphs, replaygain-values and the like aren't really suitable to show the difference in dynamic range.
I think it would be a good idea to integrate suitable methods of demonstrating dynamic range.
Afaik someone tried to do something like that a few days ago, it's probably easily found somewhere in the Scientific/R&D Section.
Synthetic Soul
I immediately thought of that video (if it is the same). It's a short, simple, but effective demonstration of the problem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ

The links in this post may also help (not followed them):

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....st&p=389684
brimstone
I had these two among my bookmarks, both are quite good.

http://www.barrydiamentaudio.com/loudness.htm
http://www.mindspring.com/~mrichter/dynamics/dynamics.htm

The Wikipedia article on the loudness race has a lot of useful links.

The video mentioned in previous posts is available for download here

http://www.digido.com/downloads/Loudness_War-small.mov [21,3 MB, quicktime]
xequence
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I guess it could be important that the most common ways to show the effects of the loudness race, like audio editor graphs, replaygain-values and the like aren't really suitable to show the difference in dynamic range.


I have some waveform screenshots from adobe audition to show clipping and general loudness increases (in the same song on different releases)

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I think it would be a good idea to integrate suitable methods of demonstrating dynamic range.
Afaik someone tried to do something like that a few days ago, it's probably easily found somewhere in the Scientific/R&D Section.


Ill look for that, it sounds interesting, thanks smile.gif

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I saw a youtube-video somewhere around here some time ago, it might be useful for a presentation or somethign like that.

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I immediately thought of that video (if it is the same). It's a short, simple, but effective demonstration of the problem.

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The video mentioned in previous posts is available for download here


Thats good, because I have dial up and can't use youtube that well, so downloading the video (even though it will take awhile) will be better. Thanks smile.gif And the youtube page says it is just under 2 minutes, perfect for my presentation.
jaw2ek
QUOTE (Synthetic Soul @ Mar 3 2007, 01:16) *
I immediately thought of that video (if it is the same). It's a short, simple, but effective demonstration of the problem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ


OMG! This video really showed me something! About 9 months ago I reripped my CDs with a lot of compression. I was looking for my music to be loud for use in my car. I had trouble hearing some tracks on my protable/FM transmitter combo. I'd been staring to regret doing this. Now I know why.
Polouess
Well, I recently did a homework for university about the same subject. The Wikipedia links and of course HA helped me a lot back then. If you wish I can post the whole PDF here, or email to you, it might help, but only if you happen to speak German. (If not you could look at the footnotes though) smile.gif
lipidicman
I enjoyed this article by a guy I have chatted to on HeadFi
http://www.stylusmagazine.com/articles/wee...und-forever.htm
Squeller
QUOTE (lipidicman @ Apr 23 2007, 04:13) *
Good one, thx.
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