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Dr. Oviri
Today I will introduce you my favourite Cd Ripper.

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WinDuck® is a very simple CD Ripper (very small, only 800 kb); arisen to create excellent quality Mp3 in a simple and fast way exploiting library Lame_Enc.dll.

Naturally WinDuck support:
- ID3 Tag v1 & v2
- Freedb.org for to receive and send the data of ours Audio Cd
- automatic create folder and file names

Main advantages:
- not require ASPI Manager
- not require installation (enought unzip WinDuck.exe & WinDuck.exe.manifest in a folder)
- very easy to be used
- full support Lame Encoder (vbrMode, Preset, etc.)
- it will be enough to replace the new version of the Lame Encoder to have an always up-to-date program

...and obviously free! smile.gif

Enjoy!

This is the link to download it cool.gif
herefornow
Thank you very much. This ripper works as it should, easily. Nice looking program as well.

cheers,
herefornow
twostar
foobar2000, and eac have secure ripping and are also free. and foobar2000, as a cd ripper, is VERY easy to use as well.
Dr. Oviri
I am not in competition with Weithoff or Pawloski tongue.gif
Remedial Sound
Crashes at runtime on my WinXP machine:

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Looks promising though!


...Just Elliott
you stole audiograbber's "rip" icon wink.gif
DickxLaurent
QUOTE(...Just Elliott @ Apr 6 2007, 08:39) *

you stole audiograbber's "rip" icon wink.gif

Maybe he was merely inspired by said icon? smile.gif
Dr. Oviri
QUOTE(DickxLaurent @ Apr 6 2007, 16:56) *

you stole audiograbber's "rip" icon wink.gif


Very similar tongue.gif

In my PC (98/ME/NT/XP/2000) it work fine tongue.gif
Dr. Oviri
StrictISO and NoBitReservoir have not seen in other CD Ripper laugh.gif

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WinDuck is simply the best cool.gif

Please, no comparison with EAC, AudioGrabber, CDex, etc. laugh.gif
hlloyge
QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 6 2007, 03:35) *

This is the link to download it cool.gif


It is not. Nothing there. Please, host it on Rapidshare or some similar download service. If you want, I can host it, I have premium account, so it won't be deleted soon.

H.
kanak
QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 7 2007, 18:11) *

WinDuck is simply the best
Please, no comparison with EAC, AudioGrabber, CDex, etc.


I'm sorry but i don't follow the logic here. So you don't want your program to be compared to either EAC or CDex or even foobar's secure ripper, but claim that your program is the best? Isn't that like saying my program is best if you don't compare it with programs that could be/are better than it?
TBeck
QUOTE(kanak @ Apr 8 2007, 04:37) *

QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 7 2007, 18:11) *

WinDuck is simply the best
Please, no comparison with EAC, AudioGrabber, CDex, etc.


I'm sorry but i don't follow the logic here. So you don't want your program to be compared to either EAC or CDex or even foobar's secure ripper, but claim that your program is the best? Isn't that like saying my program is best if you don't compare it with programs that could be/are better than it?

Possibly he wanted to say, that his program is meant for different user groups or requirements and can not be compared with the big ones. I myself am also using some similar software, small and easy to use, sufficient for a rip now and then but not the best choice for mass backups or if highest data integrity is required.
Dr. Oviri
QUOTE(kanak @ Apr 8 2007, 05:37) *

I'm sorry but i don't follow the logic here. So you don't want your program to be compared to either EAC or CDex or even foobar's secure ripper, but claim that your program is the best? Isn't that like saying my program is best if you don't compare it with programs that could be/are better than it?


Thomas has understood the "concept" wink.gif

WinDuck support only Mp3 and Wave but better than others CD Ripper smile.gif
Synthetic Soul
Thanks for this.

QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 8 2007, 06:43) *
WinDuck support only Mp3 and Wave but better than others CD Ripper smile.gif
Can you elaborate?
twostar
QUOTE(TBeck @ Apr 8 2007, 12:34) *

QUOTE(kanak @ Apr 8 2007, 04:37) *

QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 7 2007, 18:11) *

WinDuck is simply the best
Please, no comparison with EAC, AudioGrabber, CDex, etc.


I'm sorry but i don't follow the logic here. So you don't want your program to be compared to either EAC or CDex or even foobar's secure ripper, but claim that your program is the best? Isn't that like saying my program is best if you don't compare it with programs that could be/are better than it?

Possibly he wanted to say, that his program is meant for different user groups or requirements and can not be compared with the big ones. I myself am also using some similar software, small and easy to use, sufficient for a rip now and then but not the best choice for mass backups or if highest data integrity is required.


it may win in the size the department but cdex, bonkenc, and foobar2000 are just as easy to use in my opinion. and lame with foobar2000 is far more easier since it only involves a quality slider. there are no other options that may screw up quality.
Synthetic Soul
QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 6 2007, 03:35) *

- not require installation (enought unzip WinDuck.exe & WinDuck.exe.manifest in a folder)
Does it write to the registry or anyhting. I.e.: could you use this on a USB pen and take yor settings with you?

QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 6 2007, 03:35) *
This is the link to download it cool.gif
NB: As per your other link, I had to copy'n'paste the URL to access the file. Your host must have some hotlinking thing going on. If posting to the forum you may do best to link to a page that has a link to the file.
Dr. Oviri
QUOTE(Synthetic Soul @ Apr 8 2007, 07:55) *

Can you elaborate?


No, read the documentation of Lame laugh.gif

Altervista has some problems for download some file dry.gif

I have arranged the link wink.gif

Enjoy! smile.gif




QUOTE(Synthetic Soul @ Apr 8 2007, 08:01) *

Does it write to the registry or anyhting. I.e.: could you use this on a USB pen and take yor settings with you?


Yes, options are written in the register but can also work from a floppy disk or a USB pen smile.gif
Synthetic Soul
QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 9 2007, 07:31) *
No, read the documentation of Lame laugh.gif
OK, I'll take that as a no.

QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 9 2007, 07:31) *
Yes, options are written in the register but can also work from a floppy disk or a USB pen smile.gif
I think it would be nice if it used an INI instead, so that the app and settings were transferrable on USB pen. I guess there's always foobar.
Dr. Oviri
A true programmer has not used INI files for at least six years laugh.gif
Synthetic Soul
biggrin.gif OK, maybe I was being a bit nineties. I apologise if I offended your programming sensibilities.

How about you make a leap of faith and think of "INI" as "a file-based config file"? XML, text, binary, anything you like - just something that I can put on a USB pen.
kwanbis
QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 9 2007, 20:28) *

A true programmer has not used INI files for at least six years laugh.gif

i think that ss is right ... what advantages does the registry offer over the INI? none ... an vice versa? you can transport your settings with you.

I would always prefer a local INI over the windows registry.
Synthetic Soul
QUOTE(kwanbis @ Apr 9 2007, 22:37) *
i think that ss is right ... what advantages does the registry offer over the INI? none ... an vice versa? you can transport your settings with you.

I would always prefer a local INI over the windows registry.
Yeah, I'm just kinda thinking that the main benefit that WinDuck has is that it does not need to be installed, and is quite small in size. People aren't going to replace EAC, foobar or even CDEx with WinDuck, but maybe it could be useful to keep a small, simple ripper on a USB pen - but that means the settings as well. I like it when apps don't install and/or mess with the registry; INI/config files are ace.

I don't really get the chance to use it now, but I have mentioned before that I find it quite interesting that Microsoft reverted to the app.config file and XML settings files with .NET.
Dr. Oviri
QUOTE(kwanbis @ Apr 9 2007, 23:37) *

i think that ss is right ... what advantages does the registry offer over the INI? none ... an vice versa? you can transport your settings with you.


An INI file is more visible and the user could modify the present values in a not very appropriate way ... laugh.gif

The Registry is more secure... smile.gif wink.gif

If you really want can you export the settings to the HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Oviri Systems\WinDuck key and save everything in a *.reg file, not? wink.gif
westgroveg
EAC uses .cfg files to save it's settings anyway.

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One of the Lame devs once gave an exmaple of what a Lame GUI should look like & it didn't look like that.
kornchild2002
Downloaded it, ran it, and was impressed that I didn't have to install anything and it fit on my USB drive. Then again, I also had the non-install version of EAC on there as well. Still, I thought it was a very nice introductory program for people who are really on the go and don't have the time/space to install CD rippers and get them properly configured. I could have used this back "in the year 2000" when I had a 32MB thumb drive that was $120 and I used three different computers for my audio purposes. Now I am a bit more grounded and use one.

A nice little program though, I hope to see some semi-secure ripping updates in the future to compete with some other popular rippers.
Synthetic Soul
QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 10 2007, 04:23) *
An INI file is more visible and the user could modify the present values in a not very appropriate way ... laugh.gif
A true programmer would always validate the INI at startup... wink.gif

QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 10 2007, 04:23) *
The Registry is more secure... smile.gif wink.gif
Impenetrable. Oh hang on, what about regedit?

A text-based config is easier to read, therefore easier to edit, therefore less likely to have errors made.

QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 10 2007, 04:23) *
If you really want can you export the settings to the HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Oviri Systems\WinDuck key and save everything in a *.reg file, not? wink.gif
That's OK if the settings don't change, but settings are supposed to be changed.

Anyway, I've made my point now. smile.gif I can see that you have made your decision, and I have no place trying to change that decision. Good luck with it. smile.gif
seanyseansean
QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 10 2007, 03:23) *

QUOTE(kwanbis @ Apr 9 2007, 23:37) *

i think that ss is right ... what advantages does the registry offer over the INI? none ... an vice versa? you can transport your settings with you.


An INI file is more visible and the user could modify the present values in a not very appropriate way ... laugh.gif

The Registry is more secure... smile.gif wink.gif

If you really want can you export the settings to the HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Oviri Systems\WinDuck key and save everything in a *.reg file, not? wink.gif


You've drunk the Kool-Aid it seems.

I don't know anyone outside Microsoft who thinks a single point of failure, i.e. 1 file per registry 'hive', is a good idea.

kwanbis
QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 10 2007, 03:23) *

An INI file is more visible and the user could modify the present values in a not very appropriate way ... laugh.gif

The Registry is more secure... smile.gif wink.gif

If you really want can you export the settings to the HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Oviri Systems\WinDuck key and save everything in a *.reg file, not? wink.gif

first, don't take this as something bad.

I think your program is exactly why i need to send to my newbies friends.

No installation, and i can setup whatever i want.

But the only problem is the INI thing. An INI file would make it much more flexible, and it should take you no time to move from registry to ini.

By the way, what is it programmed into?
Chastity
I'm sure Warner Brothers would appreciate you using Daffy Duck as your icon logo, especially since you are using ®egistered Trademark logo.

I would suggest his links be removed, and maybe the author loved ever-so-gently by gorillas.
CiTay
QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 7 2007, 14:11) *

StrictISO and NoBitReservoir have not seen in other CD Ripper laugh.gif

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Yeah because they're pretty much useless for the average joe, just like the rest under "Others"...
Dr. Oviri
QUOTE(Synthetic Soul @ Apr 10 2007, 08:57) *

Impenetrable. Oh hang on, what about regedit?


Is always more difficult use Regedit than an INI file, not? laugh.gif


QUOTE(Chastity @ Apr 10 2007, 23:14) *

I'm sure Warner Brothers would appreciate you using Daffy Duck as your icon logo, especially since you are using ®egistered Trademark logo.

I would suggest his links be removed, and maybe the author loved ever-so-gently by gorillas.


I will dedicate you a thought tomorrow morning while I do the love with a girlie on the rear seat of my limousine
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QUOTE(CiTay @ Apr 10 2007, 23:21) *

Yeah because they're pretty much useless for the average joe, just like the rest under "Others"...


I agree... maybe WinDuck is too much professional for you laugh.gif laugh.gif
westgroveg
QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 11 2007, 13:17) *

I agree... maybe WinDuck is too much professional for you laugh.gif laugh.gif

Says the man with a kindergarten looking GUI, prehistoric features & a Duck! as his logo...

So far looks like the program would appeal to people wanting:

+Basic design, easy to use
+Light weight, can be carried on flash disk


I think the Mp3 tab needs a redesign & some kind of transportable file with configuration data is also needed.
QHOBBES 2.0
Listen Dr. Oviri, you have the right idea with WinDuck, small, basic design, easy to use, basically everything westgroveg said, but it has it's flaws/features. I'm willing to bet most of the people on these forums already have a ripper of choice (EAC, CDeX, FB2K, WA, iTunes, maybe even WMP). What we do need though is a portable ripper that just works and fits on a floppy. If your trying to replace this community's rippers of choice, good luck and god speed.

So basically, make a separate version that uses an INI file.
Synthetic Soul
QUOTE(QHOBBES 2.0 @ Apr 11 2007, 04:51) *
Listen Dr. Oviri, you have the right idea with WinDuck, small, basic design, easy to use, basically everything westgroveg said, but it has it's flaws/features. I'm willing to bet most of the people on these forums already have a ripper of choice (EAC, CDeX, FB2K, WA, iTunes, maybe even WMP). What we do need though is a portable ripper that just works and fits on a floppy. If your trying to replace this community's rippers of choice, good luck and god speed.
Very well put. WinDuck is never going to replace EAC, foobar etc., so it needs a niche. The obvious choice, given its nature, is as a portable and simple application that can be carried on a USB drive. However, for this to really work you need to be able to take your settings with you as well, and you currently can't. Maybe even a U3 version; a it gimmicky perhaps, but marketing can be gimmicky.

It's a shame that Dr Ovari is not more open to suggestions from his potential user-base, as without this skill he is unlikely to ever have an actual user-base.

I also agree with other posters that the removal of copyright and plagiarised iconography may be prudent. It's really just unnecessary.

I'd also like to see a LAME config more in fitting with the recommendation.
CiTay
QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 11 2007, 03:17) *

QUOTE(CiTay @ Apr 10 2007, 23:21) *

Yeah because they're pretty much useless for the average joe, just like the rest under "Others"...


I agree... maybe WinDuck is too much professional for you laugh.gif laugh.gif


That coming from a guy that still uses --r3mix...
kwanbis
totally agree with QHOBBES 2.0.
Remedial Sound
Dr. Oviri, please understand that the suggestions made in this thread are constructive criticism - recommendations for things that could be improved upon to make your utility better. What you have appears to be a very nice, small, lightweight, ripper/LAME-encoder, and you should be flattered that so many people have replied and shown interest in your project. If you continue to simply refute/ignore such suggestions, people are just going to walk away, leaving you with no user base.

So far I count 3 constructive suggestions for your project:

1. remove trademarked/copyrighted images

2. store application settings in an .INI file instead of the registry (for portability)

3. modify LAME settings dialog for greater consitency with the recommended User Interface Guidelines:

http://lame.sourceforge.net/lame_ui_example.php

And I still haven't been able to get this to run on my WinXP machine (crashes immediately at startup). You also need to take crash/bug reports more seriously rather than replying that "it works ok on my computer."
kanak
QUOTE(Remedial Sound @ Apr 11 2007, 19:51) *

So far I count 3 constructive suggestions for your project:

1. remove trademarked/copyrighted images

2. store application settings in an .INI file instead of the registry (for portability)

3. modify LAME settings dialog for greater consitency with the recommended User Interface Guidelines:


Unless the name "Winduck" is REALLY a registered trade mark, i think that ® symbol should be dropped.
kwanbis
QUOTE(Remedial Sound @ Apr 11 2007, 13:51) *

Dr. Oviri, please understand that the suggestions made in this thread are constructive criticism - recommendations for things that could be improved upon to make your utility better.

Exactly.

If people is requesting changes here, is because you got us interested, NOT because we think your program is bad.
Dr. Oviri
I have never discovered any problem in no operating system. All my friends use WinDuck® for ages and no one has never complained about nothing. laugh.gif

Does the icon with Duffy Duck give back better the play upon words, not ? tongue.gif

WinDuck® is a registered mark, then no problem smile.gif

I could also do an INI file but at present I am very engaged with another much more important project; if you do not like it use EAC, CDex, Audiograbber or that you prefer... laugh.gif
kanak
QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 12 2007, 08:05) *

Does the icon with Duffy Duck give back better the play upon words, not ?


So?

The point is that you are using someone else's trade mark... How can you even expect ANYONE to respect YOUR ® when you don't respect others'?
bubka
did audiograbber give you the source or something?
Dr. Oviri
I do not know Jackie Franck, Sergey laugh.gif laugh.gif

I love Duffy Duck... is very funny!!! smile.gif
Dr. Oviri
QUOTE(CiTay @ Apr 11 2007, 15:35) *

That coming from a guy that still uses --r3mix...



If I do not remember badly the complete answer it was:
R3Mix with CD Covers and Unsynced Lyrics for my player...

I do not think that you are able to do it in automatic way laugh.gif
greynol
QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 11 2007, 22:20) *
I love Duffy Duck... is very funny!!! smile.gif

It's Daffy Duck.

If you love him so much you should learn to spell his name right.

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skelly831
This is going nowhere, fast. sad.gif
Dr. Oviri
QUOTE(greynol @ Apr 16 2007, 05:02) *

QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 11 2007, 22:20) *
I love Duffy Duck... is very funny!!! smile.gif

It's Daffy Duck.

If you love him so much you should learn to spell his name right.

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True... But my program use Duff Beer laugh.gif
dutch109
QUOTE(Remedial Sound @ Apr 6 2007, 13:50) *

Crashes at runtime on my WinXP machine:

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Looks promising though!

I have the same problem (XP Pro SP2). crying.gif

And it would be better with Vorbis support.
greynol
Let's recap...

>Crashes at runtime on my WinXP machine
QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 6 2007, 09:24) *
In my PC (98/ME/NT/XP/2000) it work fine tongue.gif

QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 8 2007, 06:43) *
WinDuck support only Mp3 and Wave but better than others CD Ripper
>Can you elaborate?
QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 8 2007, 23:31) *
No, read the documentation of Lame laugh.gif

>I think it would be nice if it used an INI instead, so that the app and settings were transferrable on USB pen.
QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 9 2007, 13:28) *
A true programmer has not used INI files for at least six years

QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 7 2007, 14:11) *
StrictISO and NoBitReservoir have not seen in other CD Ripper
>Yeah because they're pretty much useless for the average joe, just like the rest under "Others"...
QUOTE(Dr. Oviri @ Apr 10 2007, 18:17) *
I agree... maybe WinDuck is too much professional for you

QUOTE(Synthetic Soul @ Apr 10 2007, 23:22) *
It's a shame that Dr Ovari is not more open to suggestions from his potential user-base, as without this skill he is unlikely to ever have an actual user-base.
odyssey
Yay, another insecure ripper. EAC are fine portable for me. I hate these childish UI's!
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