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pepoluan
We have been front-row spectators of the birth and ascent of a new lossless audio compression format, the Tom's Audio Kompressor (TAK).

I think we ought to give TAK its own forum, to record the early discussions, and to record its subsequent development.

As it is now, TAK's threads got buried between other threads.
Synthetic Soul
Currently, if you look at the Lossless / Other Codecs forum, it pretty much is the TAK forum. I don't think that it's that difficult to find the threads.

I think creating a separate forum for TAK at this time is a little 'disrespectful' to FLAC and WavPack, who have worked hard to achieve the user-base that they have, which is one hell of a lot more people than TAK.

Just my opinion, not that of the board.

NB: Previous thread.
gib
I don't think respect really is an issue. I just think that it's a matter of volume. The amount of discussion for FLAC and WavPack is pretty significant, so a separate forum for those makes sense. OptimFrog, LA, etc. don't see much discussion, so those are fine in a catchall forum. TAK is clearly getting a lot of discussion, so another forum seems reasonable to me.

That being said, it's not imperative that TAK get a separate forum, so I'm fine with whatever happens. heh
Synthetic Soul
TAK is getting a lot of discussion as it is in a key phase.

I would also point out that the post to thread ratio is low; i.e.: there are many threads, but not that many posts - especially if you exclude "W00t! Thanks!" posts. All the threads are new releases, which can't last forever; no-one is asking support questions, which are the types of thread that will keep a forum ticking over.

That said, I really don't mind either way, I'm just explaining my reasoning. I think it's early days to warrant the work involved.
gib
Nicely explained. I very much understand your reasoning now and agree with you that it's too early. Though, like you, I don't mind either way.
pepoluan
Well, whatever happens, it's up to the mods & admins.

I just think that (i.e. my reasoning) it will be nice to save the threads behind the birth of TAK. And who knows? Maybe by giving its own forum we will help push its development and deployment?

But again, it's just a friendly suggestion from me. I wish Tom the best smile.gif
Synthetic Soul
QUOTE(pepoluan @ Apr 12 2007, 13:48) *
I just think that (i.e. my reasoning) it will be nice to save the threads behind the birth of TAK.
I would hope that all threads will be saved irrespective of what forum they are in. Is this not the case with IPB?

QUOTE(pepoluan @ Apr 12 2007, 13:48) *
Maybe by giving its own forum we will help push its development and deployment?
But is it fair that TAK should be given that help? FLAC and WavPack had to work years for the 'honour'. I sincerely hope that we do see a TAK forum on Hydrogen Audio, but only when it has earned it.

QUOTE(pepoluan @ Apr 12 2007, 13:48) *
But again, it's just a friendly suggestion from me. I wish Tom the best smile.gif
You are continually making suggestions to improve Hydrogen Audio as a community, and I personally very much appreciate it. I certainly don't mean to pee on your parade. I think you know that I have been a supporter of TAK from the beginning (although I did kind of fall into the role!), and I wish Thomas the best of luck.
TBeck
QUOTE(pepoluan @ Apr 12 2007, 09:05) *

We have been front-row spectators of the birth and ascent of a new lossless audio compression format, the Tom's Audio Kompressor (TAK).

I think we ought to give TAK its own forum, to record the early discussions, and to record its subsequent development.

As it is now, TAK's threads got buried between other threads.

Thank you very much for caring!

But...

QUOTE(Synthetic Soul @ Apr 12 2007, 09:19) *

Currently, if you look at the Lossless / Other Codecs forum, it pretty much is the TAK forum. I don't think that it's that difficult to find the threads.

QUOTE(Synthetic Soul @ Apr 12 2007, 10:07) *

TAK is getting a lot of discussion as it is in a key phase.

I would also point out that the post to thread ratio is low; i.e.: there are many threads, but not that many posts - especially if you exclude "W00t! Thanks!" posts. All the threads are new releases, which can't last forever; no-one is asking support questions, which are the types of thread that will keep a forum ticking over.

Good points!

Somehow i would feel forced to fill a dedicated TAK forum with content, if nobody else is posting... One downside is, that even a temporary lack of posts regarding TAK makes some people feel, that TAK is dying. There have already been exapmles in other threads for this.

If more people start asking questions about TAK's usage, we possibly should think again about it.

QUOTE(Synthetic Soul @ Apr 12 2007, 14:26) *

QUOTE(pepoluan @ Apr 12 2007, 13:48) *
Maybe by giving its own forum we will help push its development and deployment?
But is it fair that TAK should be given that help? FLAC and WavPack had to work years for the 'honour'. I sincerely hope that we do see a TAK forum on Hydrogen Audio, but only when it has earned it.

I agree, this wouldn't be fair.

QUOTE(Synthetic Soul @ Apr 12 2007, 09:19) *

I think creating a separate forum for TAK at this time is a little 'disrespectful' to FLAC and WavPack, who have worked hard to achieve the user-base that they have, which is one hell of a lot more people than TAK.

But please don't take only the time into account when judging the effort which went into the development of a compressor. Possibly TAK's first year of (public) development can count as two or even three...

Thomas


jido
I think it is too early to have a separate forum for TAK.
Squeller
Too early imo.
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